VOD won't play 1080p..

[Zombie069]

Rented "Knowing" tonight, on my 722k, and it says it's 1080p, and it's going to run a test on my tv, causing the screen to go blank for 15 seconds. Test concludes and says my tv doesn't support it. BS.. It's a 1080p JVC.. :rant:
So it then says I can rent at a resolution the WILL work, and now it's cut off 3 inches on the top and the bottom... Anyone have any ideas? Is this another in the long list of dish bugs?

 

[HobbyTalk]

If your set is not 1080p-24fps capable it will not play in 1080p.

 

[HiDefRev]

1080p

Right. It's not a Dish bug, it's your TV. Your set does not support 1080p/24, so it can not display the movie in 1080p. It will, however play in 1080i.

 

[BuddyBoy]

Right. It's not a Dish bug, it's your TV. Your set does not support 1080p/24, so it can not display the movie in 1080p. It will, however play in 1080i.

Unless the OP has display that's based on CRT technology, it is fundamentally incapable of displaying anything other than a progressive (1080p) picture. How it constructs a frame of 1080p from 1080i varies.

If his 1080p JVC is anything like the two 1080p LCoS JVC sets I used to have (still have one), it is fully capable of detecting 24fps film sources when sent as 1080i60 on the HDMI input, and properly performing inverse 3:2 pulldown to reconstruct the 24fps source, and then displaying it with a 3:2 cadence at 60Hz.

 

[tnsprin]

1. Your TV must be able to accept 1080P/24 and DISH must be able to recognize it as able to do so in order to show these 1080P PPV's. Dish still doesn't recognize some of these TV's and sometimes still doesn't always work correctly even when it does.

2. Having accepted the failure of the DISH/TV handshake the picture will be offerred at 1080i.

3. 3 inch bands at the top and bottom. Very common and expected for any picture that is wider than 1.78 (16x9). Knowing's aspect is 2.35.

 

[daveray]

So it then says I can rent at a resolution the WILL work, and now it's cut off 3 inches on the top and the bottom... Anyone have any ideas? Is this another in the long list of dish bugs?[/QUOTE]

The black bars at the top and bottom have nothing to do with 1080p 24/60 or 1080i. This is the aspect ratio the film was shot at, you will have bars if the aspect ratio is 2.40/ 1 it will be full screen if it is shot at 1.85/1.

 

[allargon]

The black bars at the top and bottom have nothing to do with 1080p 24/60 or 1080i. This is the aspect ratio the film was shot at, you will have bars if the aspect ratio is 2.40/ 1 it will be full screen if it is shot at 1.85/1.

It will fill up a 16:9 screen if it's 1.78/1. For widescreen displays with no overscan, 1.85/1 movies have a thin black strip at the top and bottom.

 

[Zombie069]

Well thanks for all the information.. I bought this tv specifically because it was a 1080p unit.

Here's a link to the specs.

42" Class (42.0" Diagonal) LCD TV - LT-42X788 - Features

It doesn't say anything about 1080p/24fps there.. Just mentions the 1080p Genessa processing.

As for the aspect ratio, why isn't there a standard? When tv's are built to fit 1.78:1, why would they make movies in 2.35:1 (or any other size)???

I have a 42" tv, but find more often than not, I am only able to utilize 35" or 36" of it.. Doesn't make sense.

 

[old corps]

I have 2 different 1080p/24fps TVs and my 722 wouldn't let me get a 1080p VOD on either one.
The 1080i looked great though. Not really a big deal I guess.

Ed

BTW, most BlueRay discs I play also cut off the top and bottom of the screen.

 

[BuddyBoy]

As for the aspect ratio, why isn't there a standard? When tv's are built to fit 1.78:1, why would they make movies in 2.35:1 (or any other size)???

There is a standard - for TV. Movie directors can choose different aspect ratios, that's the way it's always been.

You have a 1080p60 display. Very few of those will accept a 24fps signal. Most displays that can accept 24fps refresh at a multiple of 24Hz, most commonly 120Hz but also 72Hz and 240Hz.

 

[Zombie069]

There is a standard - for TV. Movie directors can choose different aspect ratios, that's the way it's always been.

You have a 1080p60 display. Very few of those will accept a 24fps signal. Most displays that can accept 24fps refresh at a multiple of 24Hz, most commonly 120Hz but also 72Hz and 240Hz.

Well (insert explicative here)....

 

[rglore]

I can watch the channel 501 1080p24 on my Samsung but cannot watch the DishOnline VOD in 1080p. The channel 501 1080p does not handshake with the TV, it just switches to 1080p and waits for your confirmation that you can still see it. The DishOnline 1080p checks the HDMI handshake for 1080p24 compatibility but apparently the receiver mis-interprets it so it's no-go.

 

[gfearz]

If you haven’t tried the 1080p test on 501 recently you might want to try it again. My Sony 1080/24 (early) would not accept the handshake until the last software update. I tried it many times in the past and it would never pass. The set now passes and I was able to watch Knowing. The display info shows 1080/24fps and looked great, as good as my BD. I haven’t been able to try Dish Online content. Haven’t been able to find any. Did Dish give up on it?

 

[Zombie069]

Well if by recently you mean beyond yesterday, then no I haven't tried it.

Recently (yesterday) I rented the movie.

I've never had it give me grief about 1080p before. I've watched several DishOnline programs that were 1080p. This was a 501 (there are 12 or so channels) VOD that was labeled 1080p in the title.
I'm guessing the blank screen I got was the handshake, just don't know why mine didn't work out.

The Xbox plays fine at 1080p. But Dish says no....?