weired timer problem

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First off, sorry for the misspelling in the title. I should be "weird timer problem"

He folks,

I had a timer set for channel 106 TV Land for all new episodes of "Hot in Cleveland." Well, I know the new season was going to start soon, so I checked the timer. It showed many skipped episodes for the first half of the week, but didn't show anything for episodes later in the week.

After a guide search, it appears that the new show starts on June 15, 2011. The timer shows nothing. I then deleted the old timer and created a new episode only timer for the season premiere. Now when I check the timer, it only shows the new episode scheduled. It shows nothing for all the other episodes that should be skipped.

Frustrated, I set a dish pass. This also showed the same problem; some episodes scheduled to be skipped in the early part of the week and nothing set for the new episode or any re-runs in the later part of the week.

Any Ideas on how to fix this.

Thanks,
Rob
 
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I believe that as June 15th approaches, it should show up in the timer.
 
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The epg goes out only about 7 days. The timer will populate as the guide downloads each night.

If you press the dvd button 3 times, you will see a list of all your timers and which are skipped and which are scheduled to record. If you high light a skipped timer you will see the reason at the top of the list. If you want to restore a skipped timer, press info and go to the to the Skip button and select it to restore. You can also do the reverse.
 
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I believe that as June 15th approaches, it should show up in the timer.

Nope. It's missing many re-runs and the new episode.

The epg goes out only about 7 days. The timer will populate as the guide downloads each night.

If you press the dvd button 3 times, you will see a list of all your timers and which are skipped and which are scheduled to record. If you high light a skipped timer you will see the reason at the top of the list. If you want to restore a skipped timer, press info and go to the to the Skip button and select it to restore. You can also do the reverse.

EPG goes out 8 days by the way. The new episode does not show up in the timer as well as many re-runs. ALL of the items I'm talking about are already showing in the guide. It's just that the timer is not catching all of the re-runs and definitely not the new episode. For example, on one day next week the guide shows several re-runs. All of these have red X's as they will be skipped because they are not new. Now if I go to June 15th in the guide, there are several re-runs and one new episode. None of these have a red X showing that they will be skipped and the new episode has nothing to indicate that it will record.

Not trying to be an @ss, but please go back and read the original post as you guys missed the entire point.
 
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Do what I suggested with the info button. Look at the description. Does it say New with that date? Sometimes the info supplied by Tribune is messed up. For example I have a timer set for Holmes Inspection on Sunday evenings.Next week they have the same episode on twice. The first is marked as new with that days date. The 2nd shows an original air date from 07 when the show was first televised in Canada. Because of the date difference, the 2nd showing was not flagged as a duplicate.
 
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Delete the timer again, and wait until a couple of days before to make a new one. Possible TV-Land is not providing the right info to Tribune yet, or they are screwing up. Don't think it's a receiver problem, just the info it's being sent.
 
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As I said. I believe that as the date gets closer to the 15th, the timer will pick up the episode.
 
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Do what I suggested with the info button. Look at the description. Does it say New with that date? Sometimes the info supplied by Tribune is messed up. For example I have a timer set for Holmes Inspection on Sunday evenings.Next week they have the same episode on twice. The first is marked as new with that days date. The 2nd shows an original air date from 07 when the show was first televised in Canada. Because of the date difference, the 2nd showing was not flagged as a duplicate.

See that's the problem. It's not marked to be recorded or skipped.

I thought this was name based recording so as long as the name is the same then it shouldn't matter if it's marked as new or not. It should be picked up as a new or re-run and set appropriately.
 
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Delete the timer again, and wait until a couple of days before to make a new one. Possible TV-Land is not providing the right info to Tribune yet, or they are screwing up. Don't think it's a receiver problem, just the info it's being sent.

I guess I have no choice but to try something like that.

"rant mode on"
By damn I pay a $15.00 monthly DVR fee and the F'ing thing should work as advertised. I shouldn't have to look through the guide to make sure it's going to do what it should. Dish should be monitoring what Tribune sends, not me.
"rant mode off"

Thanks for the help.
 
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As I said. I believe that as the date gets closer to the 15th, the timer will pick up the episode.


All you really had to do was wait as 3HaloODST suggested. It is very common for the new season not to be correctly listed until just before it begins. Any timer set will go off correctly. As for Dish monitoring I am not sure how to propose they do that? Check every hour of every channel of every show, every day? The EPG overall is good, sometimes it is vague for some reason and confuses the timer. But in the particular case you are talking about, it almost always straightens out before the premiere. You are upset for something that has not even gone wrong yet, and probably would not have.
 
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I just set my timers up for Hot in Cleveland and the new show Happily Divorced . Both show in my guide as recording on tv 1 and the other on tv2. Both are in my scheduled shows for next Wednesday the 15th. I am using a 722k dvr.
 
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I have encountered this same problem and I can tell you from my experience with it, it is some sort of flaw as I will have a timer set to record a show, but that same series new episodes won't show up or at all register as set to record. This happens only on rare occasion. The same show with the exact title on the same channel simply won't show up on the timers list. So, I have to set a second timer, and then all the remaining shows will record as they should and show up on the events list.

It is real, but not common.
 
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All you really had to do was wait as 3HaloODST suggested. It is very common for the new season not to be correctly listed until just before it begins. Any timer set will go off correctly. As for Dish monitoring I am not sure how to propose they do that? Check every hour of every channel of every show, every day? The EPG overall is good, sometimes it is vague for some reason and confuses the timer. But in the particular case you are talking about, it almost always straightens out before the premiere. You are upset for something that has not even gone wrong yet, and probably would not have.

I'm really just confused. I had not seen a problem like this in the 5 years I've had a 622 and now a 722k. Plus, your explanation was, well, just that, an explanation. His was a one line statement that didn't ease my confusion.

So thanks for all the responses folks. All is well and I'll just keep an eye on it.
 
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It's possible that it's hitting the max number of events for the timer. On my 722k anytime I set a show to record that has many airings throughout the week, it maxes out around 50 events for that timer. As the days go by the recorded and not recorded move off the event list and events are added for the days coming up. My Hot In Cleveland timer starts on Sat 6/11 and goes pretty much to through Sunday. It stops on Sunday at 1:30pm. I have it set to record only New episodes too.
 
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It's possible that it's hitting the max number of events for the timer. On my 722k anytime I set a show to record that has many airings throughout the week, it maxes out around 50 events for that timer. As the days go by the recorded and not recorded move off the event list and events are added for the days coming up. My Hot In Cleveland timer starts on Sat 6/11 and goes pretty much to through Sunday. It stops on Sunday at 1:30pm. I have it set to record only New episodes too.

That would explain it best for me. I had read about limits on here but they didn't even come to mind at the time. When I first noticed the problem a few days ago, I even tried a dish pass and that didn't fix it. Does a pass have the same limit?

It should be easy to test.
 
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To the best of my knowledge the DishPass has the same limit when I set one up for How I Met Your Mother, it also stops at 50 or so events.
 
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His was a one line statement that didn't ease my confusion.

Well I didn't really feel obligated to fully explain anything as the first time I made the statement you were telling me to re-read your post and that I missed your entire point, when in fact I had read it and knew exactly what you were saying.
 

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