Who besides big oil can replace gasoline with something better? (1 Viewer)

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Bob Haller

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Much is said of free market.

well other than big oil who could replace gasoline with something better.

just building a distribution system stations and pumps plus getting auto makers cooperation.

just who will magically pop up and fix this:(
 
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That is one of the arguments for electric vehicles - the distribution system is already there.
 

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"The car has an energy generator that extracts hydrogen from water that is poured into the car's tank."

Same old BS. Similar has been discussed in other threads here.

There is no such thing as perpetual motion. It takes energy to remove the hydrogen, more than you get by burning or otherwise using the hydrogen. Demos always seem to run down, eventually. The batteries they use to keep it going run out of juice.

If this worked, then we could power our cars by putting windmills on top of them, to generate power from the breeze generated by the moving car. :rolleyes:
 

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Much is said of free market.

well other than big oil who could replace gasoline with something better.

just building a distribution system stations and pumps plus getting auto makers cooperation.

just who will magically pop up and fix this:(

Duracell or Energizer.

As the advancement of Lithium Ion batteries progress, the alternative could be a completely rechargeable batteried powered car.

Another resource could be nuclear power. Of course there is safety/health issues with nuclear based power, but if the minds can figure out a way to safely and effectively use nuclear power to run cars, that may be something to think about.
 
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to be truthful I think thata steam powered car would be more practical than one tht extracts hydrogen from the water. Even that would require some sort of energy to start the boiler but man would that sucker burn clean and quiet.

I am not sure if this would be true of a modern more powerful steam car but the old oens had no gear box. they were actually quite popualr right up until the invention of the electric starterr for gasoline internal combusion engines.
 

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"The car has an energy generator that extracts hydrogen from water that is poured into the car's tank."

Same old BS. Similar has been discussed in other threads here.

There is no such thing as perpetual motion. It takes energy to remove the hydrogen, more than you get by burning or otherwise using the hydrogen. Demos always seem to run down, eventually. The batteries they use to keep it going run out of juice.

If this worked, then we could power our cars by putting windmills on top of them, to generate power from the breeze generated by the moving car. :rolleyes:

That is a good idea. That could come into play along with a combination of other technologies to make a car that can get very good fuel mileage. This could be combined with compressed air and batteries to power the car. Something has to get it started in which can be a little bit of gasoline then the air flow can charge the battery to keep the vehicle in motion.
 

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"The car has an energy generator that extracts hydrogen from water that is poured into the car's tank."

Same old BS. Similar has been discussed in other threads here.

There is no such thing as perpetual motion. It takes energy to remove the hydrogen, more than you get by burning or otherwise using the hydrogen. Demos always seem to run down, eventually. The batteries they use to keep it going run out of juice.

If this worked, then we could power our cars by putting windmills on top of them, to generate power from the breeze generated by the moving car. :rolleyes:

Yeah, sounds a little bogus to me. However, one close scenario would be to have a hydrogen tank at home and using household electricity and water to fill the tank. Homeowner then simply transfers hydrogen over to their car. Nothing particularly new, its just that electricity and water are relatively cheap and can be sourced from clean sources such as solar, etc. In fact, a homeowner with a well and solar or wind power could have "free fuel".

Even a PHEV that simply supplements hydrogen from a water source into the air intake would add some gain to the fuel economy. Just charge the batteries at home. If charging isn't done, no big deal, they just end up getting typical fuel economy for their make of car. Well maybe a little less on account of the batteries.

Anyone know how much electricity and water would be needed to get a gasoline gallon equivalent? I'm sure there's a btu comparison somewhere.
 
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