Wireless Dish Joeys connect by Ethernet and/or AP frequency limit and APs in general

tpribors

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I'm actually having WiFi problems in two spaces. The first is from the Hopper to the external router.

This is about the wireless Joey infrastructure and its Access Point.

I have 2 wireless Joeys. In our old house they worked flawlessly but here the link between their dedicated WiFi router and the Joeys is very problematic.

I suspect but can't prove since visibility into actual operation is very limited, that the access point is trying to use 5GHz and it's getting trounced on by external interference. (It could be the other way).

I see two solutions

1. Somehow limit the Joey infrastructure (the "Access point") to 2.4GHZ (or 5GHz). The access point seems to have no user accessible configuration tools.

2. I tried a powerline adapter to the weakest device. I plugged the Joey ethernet into the powerline and the Hopper ethernet into the other end's powerline. They linked up. But only briefly. The other Joey was still on WiFi and when the AP mated to the wireless unit, the first hardwired unit gave up the ethernet and switched to WiFi.

I actually don't think the problem is with the signaling but the access point. The installer used a coax-ethernet (MOCA) to move the AP into the same room as the two Joeys so both were within line of sight of the AP. The Joey would still lose the link. When they installed the dish (we did it through a move) they swapped out my old really robust AP for a new one. I think this AP isn't as good at handling interference... Dish was unable to get me one of the old style APs...
 
My wireless Joey 4 is connected to an access point that connects to my Hopper with a CAT5 cable.
I had to use a longer CAT5 cable to put the AP nearer to the wireless Joey 4 for a more stable signal.
I'm on a cruise ship right now but do not remember the access point having a coax connection and I'm not sure that is the correct way to connect the access point to the Hopper.
 
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When I did the single joey experiment I connected the joey to a powerline and connected the ethernet port on the Hopper to the powerline. So both were "routing" through my home router. The AP was connected to the Hopper on the other ethernet port.

How are wired Joeys connected? Do they go through the regular "home" ethernet infrastructure? Ie, Hopper->Router, Joey1->Router Joey2->Router (perhaps using ethernet switches). There's no AP in the case of wired, right? In this situation everything gets their IP address from the router DHCP.

If I went to all powerline, I would drop the AP out of the picture, connect everything with the powerline system. Hopper->Powerline-in-bedroom, Joey1->Powerline-in-dining, Joey2->Powerline-in-living, Powerline->Router in office.

Dish told me it is not "supported" to use an all Ethernet configuration in the Wireless Joeys, but I'd seen, in fact in this forum, that it works...

I have 2 Powerline left over from old house where I had to connect security system. These are the ones with the pass-through AC outlet. They aren't exactly as they pretend to be. The adapters above block the lower outlet. The upper outlet is still open for a 3-prong plug. All of the pass-through are so large, they cover up much of the upper outlet, preventing the 3-prong from fitting and even some two prongs won't fit in the top outlet...
 
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My wireless Joey 4 is connected to an access point that connects to my Hopper with a CAT5 cable.
I had to use a longer CAT5 cable to put the AP nearer to the wireless Joey 4 for a more stable signal.
I'm on a cruise ship right now but do not remember the access point having a coax connection and I'm not sure that is the correct way to connect the access point to the Hopper.
They don't. You connect it to a Hopper Internet Connecter via Ethernet cable
 
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