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Hate to disagree, but the vast majority of population here in the United States, do not watch sports.

There are 132 Million Households in the United States, currently Sunday Night Football averages about 10 Million Households watching, that is less than 8% of our population.
Correct, but those that DO WANT thier Sports DO WATCH IT.

So your saying that 122M people are not watching NFL or College Football or MLB Baseball in the past month ?

Also, how long do you have to have the channel on for it to count ?

I go thru many games, stop and watch the interesting to me ones.
 
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Well, UNC hired Bill Belichick. ;)

Looks like the schools that report such things typically get over a third of their sports revenue from TV rights, with ticket sales, state funding (in the case of public schools), and booster donations being secondary sources of income. As to whether the money to hire/pay-off coaches comes from TV rights, booster donations, etc., it probably can vary a lot depending on how the school runs things.
Are you saying UNC is a Small school or a Big school ?

They play with the Big Boys.
 
Many people, yes. The majority of people, maybe in aggregate? Maybe? That is, fans of all sports and all teams may represent a simple majority of TV viewers. How important is another thing. Would all the NFL fans be willing to pay for Sunday Ticket if that was the only way to watch the games? I don't know, but what I do know is sports channel fees represent a disproportionate amount on cable bills, and streaming is starting to look the same.

It isn't just about the costs going up. It is the costs going up to pay for something that is very expensive and that a minority of subs on a given platform will watch. Most things on a given platform will attract a minority of subs, but most of those things also cost a lot less than sports. People fled to Netflix, Hulu, etc. to get away from the high cost of things they don't watch. Where will they go now? Seems like piracy. For me it is physical media, for at least as long as they still press discs.
When did I say anything about a Majority ?
 
Hate to disagree, but the vast majority of population here in the United States, do not watch sports.

There are 132 Million Households in the United States, currently Sunday Night Football averages about 10 Million Households watching, that is less than 8% of our population.
While there is validity to what you are saying, IMHO you are oversimplifying the situation. You seem to make the case that all sports fans are the same. i.e. the same sports fans watch football, basketball, baseball, F1, NASCAR, hockey, wresting etc. I don't believe that the sports population can be decided by one sport on one night. Isn't it possible that the number of sports fans is much higher than just those who watch Sunday Night Football? Personally I consider myself a sports fan but never watch Sunday Night Football.
 
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Unless I'm doing something wrong, the ESPN with the Disney bundle won't let me watch the espn games today ... 😞

Not sure why ... is it possibly because I use Youtube Tv ?

How do you get espn with OUT having to put in a Provider ?

I get it thru my Verizon phone service, but it ask for your TV Provider (in my case is YTTV)
Yea you can't get because of the Disney-/YTTV dispute. You could subscribe directly to ESPN Unlimited for $29.99 per month. Or get Sling for a day for $4.99.
 
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Are you saying UNC is a Small school or a Big school ?

They play with the Big Boys.
It was a joke about UNC thinking they are bigger than they are and hiring a big time coach -- or at least a very expensive one. Hence the winking emoji. The local reporting has been that the money to pay him is primarily coming from the TV revenues. Needless to say the basketball fans at UNC are not amused, especially considering the results so far. Football may bring in the bucks, but that doesn't mean it is what really matters at UNC.
 
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When did I say anything about a Majority ?
You didn't. You said "many," which I agreed with. I expanded on that to talk about the majority because that is what should be driving business decisions at these media companies. Keeping a minority of customers happy by overcharging the majority didn't work last time (with cable/satellite), and I don't think it will work any better in the long term this time either (with streaming). Only time will tell.
 
It was a joke about UNC thinking they are bigger than they are and hiring a big time coach -- or at least a very expensive one. Hence the winking emoji. The local reporting has been that the money to pay him is primarily coming from the TV revenues. Needless to say the basketball fans at UNC are not amused, especially considering the results so far. Football may bring in the bucks, but that doesn't mean it is what really matters at UNC.
Actually, the bucks at UNC may be very close between the two sports.

Fans being amused, never come into the situation ... in reality.

The Basketball team HAS had Very Big Time Coaches there ... so why can't the football team ?

I really don't know where basketball coaches salaries are, but buying out the Top coach in basketball isn't cheap either.
 
Actually, the bucks at UNC may be very close between the two sports.

Fans being amused, never come into the situation ... in reality.

The Basketball team HAS had Very Big Time Coaches there ... so why can't the football team ?

I really don't know where basketball coaches salaries are, but buying out the Top coach in basketball isn't cheap either.
The TV money is for all sports, but everything I've ever read shows that the football games are what drives TV revenue. This is one of the reasons why the ACC can't match the SEC and Big10 in TV revenue -- their football games just don't bring the same viewership numbers. The other revenue sources probably do primarily favor the basketball teams, as you say.

UNC may think they are a big-time football school, but they and most of the rest of the ACC just aren't. I don't blame them for wanting to spending the money to try to become one. That is the game. However, I have low confidence they will be able to achieve their goal. Part of that is my prediction that the TV money will start to plateau or decline overall, and the lion's share will continue to go to the big two conferences, while the ACC will suffer, if it even still exists by then.

Disputes like the Disney-YTTV one are just the same as the ones we've seen for a long time with cable/satellite companies. They always result in ever higher bills for consumers at a time when effective income for the majority of people is stagnant or declining, and has been for a while. There is a limit to what the masses can afford, and the masses are needed to actually pay the very large contracts that ESPN and others have signed for sports. With a shrinking paying customerbase, where will the money come from to pay the coaches, players, owners, etc?

Other, recent evidence for my viewpoint:


The move to streaming for sports in general is just a detour on the road we were already on. Eventually, all streaming services want to make money, which is why Peacock and HBO just had big price increases. There are reasons everyone is saying streaming has become a lot like cable, and the price and regular large price increases are big parts of that.
 

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