How long can BD bleed?????
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Its still a lead isnt it?
Kind of like the football fan who said his team only lost by 1 point, they STILL lost...Im not exactly pulling for Bluray here, just saying
Nah more like spygate. They might have one that game, but they lost a draft pick this year and next.
(I love football analogies)
8:1?
3 mil PS3s + 500,000 BD standalones = 3.5 mil
800,000 standalones and Xbox
= 4.4:1 install base.
As for the early comment about Sony using Blu-Ray as a crutch for the video end in the PS3 rather than DVD-9, yes, there are only a couple of titles using more than 9GB, BUT, early in every consoles life cycles nothing uses the full potential, and i would be that MANY games over time will use more than 9GB, and I as a gamer would rather have only to deal with 1 disk that multiple disks with swap-outs.. I remeber the annoyance of some of the PS2 games taht got up to 4 disks... or more.
You mean like Rocky?
And yes, it's all because of those dang Neilsen numbers with their facts and reporting of sales. If they'd just quit telling the truth, it would be clear that HD-DVD is in the lead.
LOL:up
Let us all look at the inaccuracies of some of these posts:
BOGOS all year (First one showed up on Amazon in June not January --that's okay because most HD-DVD owners are still stuck in October 2006)
HD-DVD is really in the lead -- of what -- low cost players? That seems to be it and without those $98 firesales you would be looking at close to a 52% to 48% standalone ratio (of course in January the ratios was 76% HD-DVD and 24% BD but the HD-DVD crowd on the standalone issue does not count the first 6 months of this year)
HD-DVD doesn't do BOGOS? (Of course when a HD-DVD player is sold for $98 or Toshiba starts in March 07 offering 5 free discs because their movies and players aren't selling it is because they are making so much money and they are so far in the lead that they can afford to give stuff away?)
Maybe the HD-DVD crowd thinks the BD crowd doesn't appreciate their BOGOS (we buy more disc then they do) low cost players (now HD-DVD guys are buying lower cost PS3 -- the same unit they keep trashing and the best HD player on the market for the price -- and lower cost BD players!)
Now they call themselves purple -- and this is because they are buying what? -- HD-DVD players -- NOPE -- it is because they are buying BD players. And the main reason -- they want to be able to buy the movies that are just out on BD! I gues they know BD is not going to loose but they keep up a brave front by buying more HD-DVD movies? Nope, they buy themselves a BD player!
Don't you just love hypocritical, number fudging, when I do its okay but not whey you do it -- folks. They just seem so down to earth -- don't they?
BOGOS all year (First one showed up on Amazon in June not January --that's okay because most HD-DVD owners are still stuck in October 2006)
HD-DVD is really in the lead -- of what -- low cost players? That seems to be it and without those $98 firesales you would be looking at close to a 52% to 48% standalone ratio (of course in January the ratios was 76% HD-DVD and 24% BD but the HD-DVD crowd on the standalone issue does not count the first 6 months of this year)
HD-DVD doesn't do BOGOS? (Of course when a HD-DVD player is sold for $98 or Toshiba starts in March 07 offering 5 free discs because their movies and players aren't selling it is because they are making so much money and they are so far in the lead that they can afford to give stuff away?)
Maybe the HD-DVD crowd thinks the BD crowd doesn't appreciate their BOGOS (we buy more disc then they do) low cost players (now HD-DVD guys are buying lower cost PS3 -- the same unit they keep trashing and the best HD player on the market for the price -- and lower cost BD players!)
Now they call themselves purple -- and this is because they are buying what? -- HD-DVD players -- NOPE -- it is because they are buying BD players. And the main reason -- they want to be able to buy the movies that are just out on BD! I gues they know BD is not going to loose but they keep up a brave front by buying more HD-DVD movies? Nope, they buy themselves a BD player!
Don't you just love hypocritical, number fudging, when I do its okay but not whey you do it -- folks. They just seem so down to earth -- don't they?
Horseshit. 5 free were given away with even the first batch of A1's and XA1's from VE and it wasnt due to low sales. Those were the 1st sales my blue troll FUDmeister. We are not talking about the 5 freebies both competitors bundle with their players Joey. Stop the FUD. The issue is BOGO promotions (buy one movie get one free). Its funny everytime you try to defend this position in the debate you stir in the 5 free movies with the players. Come up with a new deception Joe, this one doesnt work.
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Direct me to the posts bashing the PS3 FUD meister? No one here is bashing it. WHo has said its garbage?
Its not a sales lead (you do not sell free material) nor does it indicate more success than HD DVD. SO yes its a lead, the question is a lead in what?
One thing i see missed on BOTH sides of this argument, the price of HD-DVD/Blu-Ray disks being 2x that of regular DVD, the manufacturing even if cost 2x or 3x as much as a regular dvd per unit, still leaves a much larger profit margin per unit that can be used for promotions...
Horseshit. 5 free were given away with even the first batch of A1's and XA1's from VE and it wasnt due to low sales. Those were the 1st sales my blue troll FUDmeister. We are not talking about the 5 freebies both competitors bundle with their players Joey. Stop the FUD. The issue is BOGO promotions (buy one movie get one free). Its funny everytime you try to defend this position in the debate you stir in the 5 free movies with the players. Come up with a new deception Joe, this one doesnt work.
And now...YET ANOTHER ONE...http://deepdiscount.com/DVD---Sony-...Code=B2GOSONYBR
For the new formats to have a chance to succeed, studios must be able to charge more... Regardless of what it cost to manufacture.
Considering in what infant stage HD/BD authoring and manufacturing is, it still costs more, much more than regular DVD:
- except for the new titles, all catalog has to be digitized with HD in mind (remember 5th Element?);
- encoding is now done on computer farms, not hardware MPEG-2 encoders, "golden eyes" are in high demand;
- audio mixing and encoding using new high resolution codecs is still evolving;
- regular - every few months - updates to AVC/VC-1 codecs change workflow;
- disc replication and associated costs/subsidies is another can of worms; etc.
It will settle in a year or two. By then it must be close to DVDs today but even then hidef disc will carry a premium price.
If they are commoditized to DVD prices, studios won't have any incentive doing it.
Diogen.
A lead in the number of discs in house that a customer might watch, or the customers friends and family.
:BLEED SONY BLEED!!
