They would really be taking a beating if they left up the other replies that they have deleted.
Dish about to lose even MORE local channels
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Another dispute with local cable companies:
WAVE 3 TV Louisville, KY | Important alert for subscribers to Frankfort Plant Board Cable
WAVE 3 TV Louisville, KY | Important alert for subscribers to Frankfort Plant Board Cable
Here's a few links:
Local Cable Viewers To Be Denied CBS 19, My 43 WUAB Programming Due To Disagreement
WOIO RAYCOM FAQs
This is turning into an epidemic effecting far more than Dish.
I can't believe KTEN is deleting comments. That is pretty slimy... I want to see them run a news report on that!
There seems to be a surge of stations trying to get coverage of subchannels and also to jack rates to a new standard of $.30/mo. I thought it might be interesting to go to the NAB site and see if there was any policy there.
Here is what I could easily find:
National Association of Broadcasters | NAB on Small Market Television Issues
and National Association of Broadcasters | Retransmission Consent
This lewtter is also very telling. It was pasted as an image, so it is difficult to excerpt: http://www.nab.org/AM/AMTemplate.cfm?template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7198
However, my reading is that the NAB is holdoing to an opinion that a station can negotiate for a retransmission agreement on the primary channel and then either negotiate for the subchannels or force carriage through must carry.
Here is what I could easily find:
National Association of Broadcasters | NAB on Small Market Television Issues
NAB On Subchannel carriage said:
and National Association of Broadcasters | Retransmission Consent
NAB on retransmission consent agreements said:
This lewtter is also very telling. It was pasted as an image, so it is difficult to excerpt: http://www.nab.org/AM/AMTemplate.cfm?template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7198
However, my reading is that the NAB is holdoing to an opinion that a station can negotiate for a retransmission agreement on the primary channel and then either negotiate for the subchannels or force carriage through must carry.
All you have to do is ask yourself, "Am I better off with HD now than I was 4 years ago?" 4 years ago I had VOOM and 40 quality channels. Now I have 73 diluted, poor HD quality, junky channels. And my price has doubled! DUH!!!!!
Voom would still be showing the same stuff from 4 years ago and we still have the other channels plus if few more I like. Also I am still paying the same price.
Okay folks. Lets keep the voom conversation in the Voom thread. 
This thread is about local channels through Dish Network. Voom never carried local channels so there is no "in" that way either.
See ya
Tony
This thread is about local channels through Dish Network. Voom never carried local channels so there is no "in" that way either.
See ya
Tony
Baton Rouge is about to have a big problem with Dish network. The abc affiliate has been off of dish since March and now come 1-1-09, the nbc, fox and cw is saying they will be off of dish, if they cant come to an agreement. If that happens, that would leave only the cbs affiliate, and people will be screaming about their locals. Plus, Directv now has the big 4 locals in HD. If dish doesnt get this straightened out, a bunch of subs will switch. Nowdays, you must offer the locals, and only offering cbs (in sd at that) is not going to cut it.
http://www.nbc33tv.com/home/related/36378124.html
http://www.nbc33tv.com/home/related/36378124.html
Okay folks. Lets keep the voom conversation in the Voom thread.
This thread is about local channels through Dish Network. Voom never carried local channels so there is no "in" that way either.
See ya
Tony
Voom DBS was smart with having a great OTA program, free antenna and excellent tuner epg. Looking at my new dtv coverage things will only get better. Wish we weren't wasting so much sat space on all these LOLs.
At www.kten.com they have pulled the ability to leave comments about the retrans dispute. Apears that their announcement has not worked out in their favor.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/159521-viacom-may-pull-19-tv-channels.html
More evidence this is going on all across the industry and not just at E*.
More evidence this is going on all across the industry and not just at E*.
I see that Viacom is about to pull all its channels from TWC due to a money dispute. Everyone wants more money now that ad revenues have dried up. If all the DBS and cable co. are smart they'll gang up and refuse these extortion attempts. There may be a short term advantage to having something your competition doesn't, but eventually you'll be paying the higher cost yourself. If these locals succeed in getting 30 cents per sub, $10 locals will be upon us sooner than I ever thought would be the case.
yeah this is an industry-wide issue. The networks are seeing a cash cow in the delivery operators (satellite OR cable) and are putting the squeeze on. The problem is that we, the consumer, get to feel the pinch because the delivery operators will have to pass along the increased cost of doing business. I don't like the idea of price increases on my satellite bill, but is it really E*'s fault? Or Time Warner's? Or D*'s fault?
No.
This is because the various networks have an inflated perception of self worth. They're getting too big for their britches. I think the satellite companies and cable companies SHOULD drop them when they play this game. They have increased viewership BECAUSE of the satellite and cable companies and I believe their ad revenues are tied to the number of viewers they have.
When E* or D* or your local cable company chop channels, don't holler at the satellite or cable company. Make your feelings known to the network trying to jump on the extortion band wagon that their fee demands are going to price them out of business.
No.
This is because the various networks have an inflated perception of self worth. They're getting too big for their britches. I think the satellite companies and cable companies SHOULD drop them when they play this game. They have increased viewership BECAUSE of the satellite and cable companies and I believe their ad revenues are tied to the number of viewers they have.
When E* or D* or your local cable company chop channels, don't holler at the satellite or cable company. Make your feelings known to the network trying to jump on the extortion band wagon that their fee demands are going to price them out of business.
Of course you realized the key to all of this lies in the alarming rate in which people and businesses (which are just a collection of people) are re-defining the words "reasonable" & "entitlement". Combined with the un-defining" of words like "conscience" and "fairness" and you have the escalating quandary in which society now finds itself - the age of the rip-off - which is also being redefined as "bailout". Now I suppose you-know who will want equal time.
These network groups need to get rid of some these useless channels. Quit all the repeats, it seems like every single show now has a channel devoted to it. I personally don't see the need for 5 versions of MTV or VH1.
My opinion with the local channels asking for more money is i dont think this should be up to the local TV station on what they can charge Dish or any other provider. I think this should be up to the NETWORK station like abc nbc cbs and fox and/or what ever else is in your local package that is wanting more money. I think the Networks should determine how much each local affiliate gets. I know it had been said dish and any other provider dont really make alot of money providing locals to me its you have to take a loss somewhere to get customers because if you dont have the channels people want then they will go somewhere else. Just like here where i live dish only provides me with SD Locals but Directv can offer me HD locals most people will go to Directv just because they have the HD. I have been with dish for years i am sure i will get HD locals here eventually. So since i am VERY happy with dish i will say there.
I saw the same thing with another station in this area. They kept deleting comments and then finally changed the page where you couldn't comment at all and had about 10 hand picked quotes in its place.
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