HD Locals in San Antonio

jrfuda said:
Currently, FOX's SD channel is on Dish, so unless they're going to charge a premium for HD (which sounds illegal, as does charging for SD, since it's broadcast TV), this should be a non-issue.

Somebody has to pay for the satellite, uplink costs, electricity, etc. I can betcha D* and E* barely break even on providing the locals.
 
stellar832000 said:
I just got installed with a Dish 411 today, how will I know when my San Antonio locals in HD are available?

Go here, enter your e-mail address in the Receive E-mail Alerts field, hit submit and read it from the horses mouth the minute it's announced.
 
You should be able to specify in your box's setup if you want SD or HD channels mapped down to your local numbers. If you enable HD mapp down, then it will happen automatically. You'll be able to tell it happened by either looking at the programming or (at least on a 622) using the "All HD" Guide filter, which should show your locals if they are in HD.
 
jrfuda, I understand that Dish carries FOX in SD, but so does Time Warner Cable, but KABB (I believe it is) wants to charge extra for their HD signal, and TW has said no, hence they don't carry FOX-HD. So I'm hoping Dish works it out with FOX, as I really don't want to have to put up an antenna, if I don't have to,
 
borfhead. Thanks for the info. That's just silly! They're saying to TWC,and maybe others "I'm going to charge you to increase my viewership." That's pretty silly.

The only reason I could see them doing it is becuase they do not want to incur the expense of whatever hardware is needed to make it happen, if any is needed. According to the HD engineer over at KENS-5, They provide their signal(s) to the cable and sattelite companies via fiber (so they do not get them OTA). I'm assuming that KABB and the other locals do the same, so perhaps they do not have the bandwidth on their fiber to send the signal to the cable and sat companies, however, if those companies were to pay for that bandwidth, then it would happen.

Considering Fox is currently the #1 station (I don't understand how, I don't think I watch anything on Fox anymore but the occasional Simpsons episode, though I hear 24 is good.. I gues American Idol really brings the numbers in for them) it seems like they should get more than enough ad revenue to cover the cost of a littl ebit of bandwidth that will bring them even MORE ad revenue!
 
Here is a list for those who have not seen it.

http://ekb.dbstalk.com/hdlocal.htm

Updated 3/11/06

TV Market
(click for map) Network and Channel Satellite

Albuquerque
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6324 6326 6327

Atlanta
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6365 6366 6367 6368

Boston
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6318 6319 6320 6321

Chicago
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6312 6313 6314 6315

Denver
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6330 6331 6332 6333

Kansas City
Available 3/8/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6377 6378 6379 6380

Los Angeles
Available 2/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6306 6307 6308 6309

Minneapolis
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6347 6348 6349 6350

Nashville
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6340 6341 6342 6343

New York City
Available 2/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6300 6301 6302 6303

Philadelphia
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6353 6354 6355 6356

Salt Lake City
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6372 6373 6374

Washington DC
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6359 6360 6361 6362

Future planned markets

Cleveland Memphis San Diego
Austin Dallas Miami Phoenix San Francisco
Baltimore Detroit Milwaukee Pittsburgh Seattle
Greenville, SC Portland, OR Spokane
Buffalo Houston New Orleans Providence Springfield, MO
Burlington Indianapolis Norfolk Raleigh St. Louis
Charlotte Jacksonville Sacramento Tulsa
Cincinnati Oklahoma City
Louisville Orlando San Antonio
 
I get SA as significantly viewed(2 stations,cbs/nbc), will I get the HD version. So far only the sd version is available. Now I know KSAT isn't up yet, but still I only see the sd version of CBS. S I am assuming that just because you can see stations as signficantly viewed doesn't mean you can get the HD version.
Patrick
 
The only locals available are CBS and FOX. They were added on 5/13/06. I called Dish and asked bout NBC and ABC, and they confirmed that those two stations had not sighned approval letters yet. Once they do, they will be added.
 
I just called Dish to ask them where the ABC and NBC HD feeds are at b/c the NBA finals start this week on ABC. TWC here in San Antonio has had the locals in HD for over a year, and Dish still has not loaded ABC and NBC!!

The Customer service rep did not have any info. Has anyone heard any new news on this?
 
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/hdlocal.htm

Updated 7/17/06

TV Market
(click for map) Network and Channel Satellite

Albuquerque
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6324 6326 6327

Atlanta
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6365 6366 6367 6368

Boston
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6318 6319 6320 6321

Chicago
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6312 6313 6314 6315

Dallas
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6383 6384 6385 6386

Denver
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6330 6331 6332 6333

Detroit
Available 7/5/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 118.75°
*added 7/17
6459 6460 6461* 6462

Houston
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
*added 7/17
6389 6390 6391* 6392

Indianapolis
Uplinked 5/31/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 118.75°

Kansas City
Available 3/8/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6377 6378 6379 6380

Los Angeles
Available 2/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6306 6307 6308 6309

Miami
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
ABC WPLG hidden in engineering mode on 6/29, returned 7/17
6401 6402 6403 6404

Minneapolis
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6347 6348 6349 6350

Nashville
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6340 6341 6342 6343

New York City
Available 2/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6300 6301 6302 6303

Philadelphia
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6353 6354 6355 6356

Phoenix
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox KTVK 110°
6446 6447 6448 6449

Portland, OR
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6420 6421 6422 6423

Raleigh
Uplinked 5/31/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 118.75°

Sacramento
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox WB 110°, 129°
6395 6396 6397 6399

Salt Lake City
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6372 6373 6374

San Antonio
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
*added 7/17
6426* 6427 6429

San Diego
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6407 6408 6409

San Francisco
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox KICU KRON 119°, 129°
6438 6439 6440 6441 (test)

Seattle
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6414 6415 6416

Spokane
Available 5/4/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6432 6433 6434 6435

St. Louis
Available 7/5/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 118.75°
6453 6454 6455 6456

Washington DC
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6359 6360 6361 6362

Future planned markets for 2006
Cleveland Memphis
Austin
Baltimore Milwaukee Pittsburgh
Greenville, SC
Buffalo New Orleans Providence Springfield, MO
Burlington Norfolk
Charlotte Jacksonville Tulsa
Cincinnati Oklahoma City
Louisville Orlando
 
playmaker7206 said:
Local San Antonio ABC HD Channel was activated yesterday!!! Now we only need NBC to complete the lineup.

Now if they'd only stop showing all their SD content on HD in "stretchovision" we'd be OK. What are they thinking?
 
I just got my 622 and was pulling KSAT via OTA and the stretch is horrible. I am a big college football fan (can you guess the team?) and they had better get rid of that distortion before the season starts. I know the new Sat. night game is going to be in HD, but I am guessing the regional ones during the day won't be.

I also don't want to be watching the British Open this week in stretch!

Now, WOAI just needs to get on the stick and round out the line-up.
 
Just signed up for dish service. I am getting it installed on the 11th. Has anyone heard when WOAI (nbc) will be in HD? How about KSAT not being in super stretch?

Was hoping to know what the issue was before the guy showed up. Not that he could do anything about it, but at least for my own metal well being.
 

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