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localclassictvfan

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The filing window will be soon, but specific dates have yet to be announced. There will be at least 60 days after the announcement of the window before the window actually opens.

- Trip
Well now we'll see what happens to KLAF 46.1 Lafayette Louisiana (BTW rumor has it NBC is still being broadcasted on it but its not Acadiana's KLAF anymore just KADN NBC 15.2)
 

comfortably_numb

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I thought LPTV stations were on their own.

"That does not include the cost of moving LPTVs or translators, which will incur costs--likely hundreds of millions--but were not included in the $1.75 billion repack fund, something Walden has previously signaled his concerns about."

I take that to mean the $3 Billion pricetag doesn't include any help for LP's. I think they're on their own. And many are being bumped by the repack (as Trip mentioned previously) and will have to apply with the FCC to move (if frequencies are available)
 

comfortably_numb

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So much for the LIE that it would pay for itself. Now taxpayers are on the hook for this corporate spectrum giveaway.

Not to mention the fact that our OTA spectrum has been reduced by 15 channels. This was an idiotic and unnecessary waste of tax dollars and government labor. They should have been focusing on next-gen TV.
 

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So much for the LIE that it would pay for itself. Now taxpayers are on the hook for this corporate spectrum giveaway.

How so? The forward auction raised $19 billion, $10 billion of which went to pay TV stations that took the money, $1.75 billion of which went into the fund, and a bit more went into the cost of running the auction. That leaves about $7 billion in profit to the US Treasury. Unless they have to add more than $7 billion to the fund, tax payers aren't on the hook for anything.

- Trip
 

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How so? The forward auction raised $19 billion, $10 billion of which went to pay TV stations that took the money, $1.75 billion of which went into the fund, and a bit more went into the cost of running the auction. That leaves about $7 billion in profit to the US Treasury. Unless they have to add more than $7 billion to the fund, tax payers aren't on the hook for anything.

- Trip

Why is the FCC going to Congress to ask for money? (According to the article)
 

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Because the law originally passed by Congress set the repack fund at $1.75 billion. Any extra was required, by law, to go to the Treasury. As such, to get additional money for the fund, Congress has to pass a law allocating it.

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How so? The forward auction raised $19 billion, $10 billion of which went to pay TV stations that took the money, $1.75 billion of which went into the fund, and a bit more went into the cost of running the auction. That leaves about $7 billion in profit to the US Treasury. Unless they have to add more than $7 billion to the fund, tax payers aren't on the hook for anything.

- Trip

Because the law originally passed by Congress set the repack fund at $1.75 billion. Any extra was required, by law, to go to the Treasury. As such, to get additional money for the fund, Congress has to pass a law allocating it.

- Trip

Good, as long as they just use that money they've already collected, it works for me. Though I'd bet they have already spent the entire $7 billion on something else.
 

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Because the law originally passed by Congress set the repack fund at $1.75 billion. Any extra was required, by law, to go to the Treasury. As such, to get additional money for the fund, Congress has to pass a law allocating it.

- Trip

So it's not really a deficit, the money is there, it just wasn't allocated?
 

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Trip, if memory serves me correctly the 99 weeks jobless bill in January 2012 utilized this money, so basically they were spending the money back then hoping to get it down the road. Is that not correct?
 

harshness

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"That does not include the cost of moving LPTVs or translators, which will incur costs--likely hundreds of millions--but were not included in the $1.75 billion repack fund, something Walden has previously signaled his concerns about."
This is particularly of interest in Walden's home state where one market (Portland, OR) covers over 40,000 square miles and it divided by two mountain ranges.

It isn't clear to me whether the funding for the participant stations included monies to deal with relocation of their translators. It seems like some of the Portland stations have quite a few translators.

It seems odd that when I query one of the stations that is moving (KATU) on the FCC Public Information File (PIF) website, it shows the future RF channel (24) rather than the current RF channel (43).
 

harshness

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One of the first television stations in the US, and the first in the St. Louis metro area, Nine Network (KETC Channel 9), is to repack its broadcast channel by improving the power of its signal.
I know how much you like posting blog links, but this has very little to do with ATSC 3.0.