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By George Mannes - Senior Writer, The Street.com

Cablevision(CVC:NYSE)finally did something with its fledgling
satellite service that made investors happy: Put it on the block.
The Long Island-based cable operator said Tuesday that its board had
decided to suspend pursuing a spinoff of its Rainbow Media
Enterprises subsidiary. In place of the RME transaction, says
Cablevision, the company will "pursue strategic alternatives" for
its satellite TV service.

Cablevision's shares jumped $2.09 Tuesday morning, or 9.5%,to
$24.20.

The minimalist announcement of Cablevision's major change in plans
means that Cablevision won't be spinning off, as it has previously
insisted it would, a new publicly traded company comprising the Voom
satellite service and three Cablevision national programming
services: American Movie Classics, the Independent Film Channel and
WE: Women's Entertainment.

Rather, as it appears from the traditional "strategic alternatives"
code word, Cablevision will try to find a buyer for Voom or its
assets.

>From its inception, Voom has proved to be a head-scratcher for

Cablevision outsiders, who wondered how the startup -- which tried
to distinguish itself with high-definition television programming --
could hope to compete against well-established cable and satellite
competitors, all of which are laboring to increase their own menu of
HDTV programming.

At a time when the larger satellite operators, DirecTV (DTV:NYSE -
commentary - research) and EchoStar (DISH:Nasdaq - commentary -
research), have shown enormous subscriber growth, Voom's growth has
been anemic at best.

Cablevision has proven itself over the years to be a fine operator
of cable systems and cable programming services. For months, though,
the kindest thing that analysts could say about Voom was that it
appeared that Cablevision was cutting its losses on the venture by
spinning it off. And even that optimism was beginning to feel
unfounded, as Cablevision missed a self-imposed deadline for
spinning off RME by the end of the third quarter, and later
announced it would fail to meet its fallback forecast of spinning
off RME by the end of the fourth quarter.

With few mourning Cablevision's plans for Voom, analysts busied
themselves with calculating how much Cablevision might reap from a
possible sale of the satellite business.

Calling Voom's current operations "value-destructive" for
Cablevision, UBS analyst Aryeh Bourkoff suggested -- as have others
in the past -- that EchoStar could be a possible buyer for the RME
satellite assets, given EchoStar's need for additional capacity.

Based on assumptions such as a negative value of Voom of $300
million, Bourkoff suggests an $800 million swing in value for
Cablevision, or $2.67 per share, should the company be able to
unload Voom for free. Each additional $100 million Cablevision could
reap from a sale would be worth 33 cents per share, estimates
Bourkoff. The analyst has a buy rating and a $28 price target on
Cablevision, which he calls one of his top picks for 2005.

Oppenheimer analyst Tom Eagan, who has a buy rating and a $26.50
target on Cablevision, writes, "Without a spinoff, we like the
valuation of CVC even more because: the company is free of the
significant cash flow losses (which we estimate at between $125
million and $175 million, depending on the subscriber net adds) and
it clears away much of the ambiguity on the company's valuation."







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[VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

I just read the same article on cedmagazine.com....

I guess this means bye bye Voom :(


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "johnnytv2004" <johnnytv2004@y...>
wrote:
>
> By George Mannes - Senior Writer, The Street.com
>
> Cablevision(CVC:NYSE)finally did something with its fledgling
> satellite service that made investors happy: Put it on the block.
> The Long Island-based cable operator said Tuesday that its board

had
> decided to suspend pursuing a spinoff of its Rainbow Media
> Enterprises subsidiary. In place of the RME transaction, says
> Cablevision, the company will "pursue strategic alternatives" for
> its satellite TV service.
>
> Cablevision's shares jumped $2.09 Tuesday morning, or 9.5%,to
> $24.20.
>
> The minimalist announcement of Cablevision's major change in plans
> means that Cablevision won't be spinning off, as it has previously
> insisted it would, a new publicly traded company comprising the

Voom
> satellite service and three Cablevision national programming
> services: American Movie Classics, the Independent Film Channel and
> WE: Women's Entertainment.
>
> Rather, as it appears from the traditional "strategic alternatives"
> code word, Cablevision will try to find a buyer for Voom or its
> assets.
>
> From its inception, Voom has proved to be a head-scratcher for
> Cablevision outsiders, who wondered how the startup -- which tried
> to distinguish itself with high-definition television programming -

-
> could hope to compete against well-established cable and satellite
> competitors, all of which are laboring to increase their own menu

of
> HDTV programming.
>
> At a time when the larger satellite operators, DirecTV (DTV:NYSE -
> commentary - research) and EchoStar (DISH:Nasdaq - commentary -
> research), have shown enormous subscriber growth, Voom's growth has
> been anemic at best.
>
> Cablevision has proven itself over the years to be a fine operator
> of cable systems and cable programming services. For months,

though,
> the kindest thing that analysts could say about Voom was that it
> appeared that Cablevision was cutting its losses on the venture by
> spinning it off. And even that optimism was beginning to feel
> unfounded, as Cablevision missed a self-imposed deadline for
> spinning off RME by the end of the third quarter, and later
> announced it would fail to meet its fallback forecast of spinning
> off RME by the end of the fourth quarter.
>
> With few mourning Cablevision's plans for Voom, analysts busied
> themselves with calculating how much Cablevision might reap from a
> possible sale of the satellite business.
>
> Calling Voom's current operations "value-destructive" for
> Cablevision, UBS analyst Aryeh Bourkoff suggested -- as have others
> in the past -- that EchoStar could be a possible buyer for the RME
> satellite assets, given EchoStar's need for additional capacity.
>
> Based on assumptions such as a negative value of Voom of $300
> million, Bourkoff suggests an $800 million swing in value for
> Cablevision, or $2.67 per share, should the company be able to
> unload Voom for free. Each additional $100 million Cablevision

could
> reap from a sale would be worth 33 cents per share, estimates
> Bourkoff. The analyst has a buy rating and a $28 price target on
> Cablevision, which he calls one of his top picks for 2005.
>
> Oppenheimer analyst Tom Eagan, who has a buy rating and a $26.50
> target on Cablevision, writes, "Without a spinoff, we like the
> valuation of CVC even more because: the company is free of the
> significant cash flow losses (which we estimate at between $125
> million and $175 million, depending on the subscriber net adds) and
> it clears away much of the ambiguity on the company's valuation."






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[VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

These things take time. I would say we still will have 2005 to keep
Voom, but what it definitely Does say is there will be no more money
going into Voom.
I would forget about the DVR and MPEG4, and probably any new channels
that are not already under contract.

Here is what Dow Jones Newswires had on it. Pretty much the same spin

Cablevision Shares Zoom On Voom
Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC) said it will suspend its
long-awaited spinoff of Voom - giving rise to speculation that
the company is preparing to sell its nascent satellite TV business.
The company said it will "pursue strategic alternatives" but
revealed no further details in its brief filing with the Securities
and Exchange Commission. Company executives declined to
comment.
Analysts see the decision as a sign that the company is
finally willing to part with the money-losing business.
"We think Cablevision has decided that the Voom satellite
TV platform does not have much of a future and that it should
be sold," said Thomas Eagan, an analyst at Oppenheimer.
(Eagan doesn't own shares; Oppenheimer doesn't have a banking
relationship with Cablevision.)
Investors apparently believe the same, sending shares of
Cablevision up 14.6% in recent trading to $25.33.





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RE: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

If someone wants to cancel, when it the best time to do so to make sure they
don't get billed for another month? In other words if the statement date is
the 7th of the month, what is the best day to cancel to make sure they're
not billed for that next month?

_____

From: rok1242 [mailto:rok1242@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:38 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will



These things take time. I would say we still will have 2005 to keep
Voom, but what it definitely Does say is there will be no more money
going into Voom.
I would forget about the DVR and MPEG4, and probably any new channels
that are not already under contract.

Here is what Dow Jones Newswires had on it. Pretty much the same spin

Cablevision Shares Zoom On Voom
Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC) said it will suspend its
long-awaited spinoff of Voom - giving rise to speculation that
the company is preparing to sell its nascent satellite TV business.
The company said it will "pursue strategic alternatives" but
revealed no further details in its brief filing with the Securities
and Exchange Commission. Company executives declined to
comment.
Analysts see the decision as a sign that the company is
finally willing to part with the money-losing business.
"We think Cablevision has decided that the Voom satellite
TV platform does not have much of a future and that it should
be sold," said Thomas Eagan, an analyst at Oppenheimer.
(Eagan doesn't own shares; Oppenheimer doesn't have a banking
relationship with Cablevision.)
Investors apparently believe the same, sending shares of
Cablevision up 14.6% in recent trading to $25.33.





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Re: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

I bought a ticket for the titanic and I'm not getting off

On Dec 21, 2004, at 7:07 PM, Robert Heitner wrote:

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> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:38 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will
>
>
>
> These things take time. I would say we still will have 2005 to keep
> Voom, but what it definitely Does say is there will be no more money
> going into Voom.
> I would forget about the DVR and MPEG4, and probably any new channels
> that are not already under contract.
>
> Here is what Dow Jones Newswires had on it. Pretty much the same spin
>
> Cablevision Shares Zoom On Voom
> Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC) said it will suspend its
> long-awaited spinoff of Voom - giving rise to speculation that
> the company is preparing to sell its nascent satellite TV business.
> The company said it will "pursue strategic alternatives" but
> revealed no further details in its brief filing with the Securities
> and Exchange Commission. Company executives declined to
> comment.
> Analysts see the decision as a sign that the company is
> finally willing to part with the money-losing business.
> "We think Cablevision has decided that the Voom satellite
> TV platform does not have much of a future and that it should
> be sold," said Thomas Eagan, an analyst at Oppenheimer.
> (Eagan doesn't own shares; Oppenheimer doesn't have a banking
> relationship with Cablevision.)
> Investors apparently believe the same, sending shares of
> Cablevision up 14.6% in recent trading to $25.33.
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[VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "etoop" <etoop@h...> wrote:
>
> I just read the same article on cedmagazine.com....
>
> I guess this means bye bye Voom :(
>
> Kind of makes me glad I went with Comcast and believe me I hate to

say that. Got their HD/DVR box and I'm on the 3rd one in 8 days,
works great the one day it worked and boy am I glad I lease the thing
and don't own it. I was trying to wait until Voom got their box
going and switch but who knows the outcome now. My guess looking
from the financial end is Echostar probably makes a pass at it as you
can probably pick the whole deal up for short money and providing
they can use the Satellite and view it as an asset along with the
programming it would probably make sense. Sad to say there probably
aren't a lot of buyers, you almost have to be Dish or Direct to even
be interested as you can probably cut a deal with the existing
subscribers which really aren't that many to come over to their
side. Tell you the truth if Dish or DTV could keep all those HD
channels which would expand their lineup nicely it probably would be
a nice package. Guess if one of them bought Voom would they have to
dump all those setup boxes due to incompatibility. Lots of questions
and hoping something can be worked out. Whatever is going to happen
will happen soon, no one wants to keep bleeding that kind of cash.





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Re: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

I'm with you Timothy...and the band played on...


On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:28:01 -0600, Timothy Fouts <timothyfouts@mac.com> wr=
ote:
>=20
> I bought a ticket for the titanic and I'm not getting off
>=20
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 7:07 PM, Robert Heitner wrote:
>=20
> > If someone wants to cancel, when it the best time to do so to make
> > sure they
> > don't get billed for another month? In other words if the statement
> > date is
> > the 7th of the month, what is the best day to cancel to make sure
> > they're
> > not billed for that next month?
> >
> > _____=20
> >
> > From: rok1242 [mailto:rok1242@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:38 PM
> > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will
> >
> >
> >
> > These things take time. I would say we still will have 2005 to keep
> > Voom, but what it definitely Does say is there will be no more money
> > going into Voom.
> > I would forget about the DVR and MPEG4, and probably any new channels
> > that are not already under contract.
> >
> > Here is what Dow Jones Newswires had on it. Pretty much the same spin
> >
> > Cablevision Shares Zoom On Voom
> > Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC) said it will suspend its
> > long-awaited spinoff of Voom - giving rise to speculation that
> > the company is preparing to sell its nascent satellite TV business.
> > The company said it will "pursue strategic alternatives" but
> > revealed no further details in its brief filing with the Securities
> > and Exchange Commission. Company executives declined to
> > comment.
> > Analysts see the decision as a sign that the company is
> > finally willing to part with the money-losing business.
> > "We think Cablevision has decided that the Voom satellite
> > TV platform does not have much of a future and that it should
> > be sold," said Thomas Eagan, an analyst at Oppenheimer.
> > (Eagan doesn't own shares; Oppenheimer doesn't have a banking
> > relationship with Cablevision.)
> > Investors apparently believe the same, sending shares of
> > Cablevision up 14.6% in recent trading to $25.33.
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RE: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

Yes, does sound like any hope of the networked DVR from Voom is all but gone
now. Perhaps the buyer(if one is found) would continue development, but it
would depend on what stage it's at, I would think.

That's really too bad. Hoped this would have a better shot, but the cash
burn rate is pretty high and you can only keep the CVC shareholders at bay
for so long.


Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rok1242 [mailto:rok1242@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will
>
>
>
> These things take time. I would say we still will have 2005
> to keep Voom, but what it definitely Does say is there will
> be no more money going into Voom.
> I would forget about the DVR and MPEG4, and probably any new
> channels that are not already under contract.
>
> Here is what Dow Jones Newswires had on it. Pretty much the same spin
>
> Cablevision Shares Zoom On Voom
> Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC) said it will suspend its
> long-awaited spinoff of Voom - giving rise to speculation
> that the company is preparing to sell its nascent satellite
> TV business.
> The company said it will "pursue strategic alternatives" but
> revealed no further details in its brief filing with the
> Securities and Exchange Commission. Company executives
> declined to comment.
> Analysts see the decision as a sign that the company is
> finally willing to part with the money-losing business.
> "We think Cablevision has decided that the Voom satellite TV
> platform does not have much of a future and that it should be
> sold," said Thomas Eagan, an analyst at Oppenheimer.
> (Eagan doesn't own shares; Oppenheimer doesn't have a banking
> relationship with Cablevision.) Investors apparently believe
> the same, sending shares of Cablevision up 14.6% in recent
> trading to $25.33.
>
>
>
>
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[VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

I was here from pretty much day one with VOOM 11/05/03 install
I for one will ride it out until the end, VOOM and Wilt have been
great to me. Some of us CV customers get to keep Wilt if this ride
does end. But I hope it can somehow last, not sure how it will
though. Funny how just last week the group was buzzing about 2005
etc. Now reading this story is a downer




--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Mankin" <bob@c...> wrote:
> Yes, does sound like any hope of the networked DVR from Voom is

all but gone
> now. Perhaps the buyer(if one is found) would continue

development, but it
> would depend on what stage it's at, I would think.
>
> That's really too bad. Hoped this would have a better shot, but

the cash
> burn rate is pretty high and you can only keep the CVC

shareholders at bay
> for so long.
>
>
> Bob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rok1242 [mailto:rok1242@y...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:38 PM
> > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will
> >
> >
> >
> > These things take time. I would say we still will have 2005
> > to keep Voom, but what it definitely Does say is there will
> > be no more money going into Voom.
> > I would forget about the DVR and MPEG4, and probably any new
> > channels that are not already under contract.
> >
> > Here is what Dow Jones Newswires had on it. Pretty much the same

spin
> >
> > Cablevision Shares Zoom On Voom
> > Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC) said it will suspend its
> > long-awaited spinoff of Voom - giving rise to speculation
> > that the company is preparing to sell its nascent satellite
> > TV business.
> > The company said it will "pursue strategic alternatives" but
> > revealed no further details in its brief filing with the
> > Securities and Exchange Commission. Company executives
> > declined to comment.
> > Analysts see the decision as a sign that the company is
> > finally willing to part with the money-losing business.
> > "We think Cablevision has decided that the Voom satellite TV
> > platform does not have much of a future and that it should be
> > sold," said Thomas Eagan, an analyst at Oppenheimer.
> > (Eagan doesn't own shares; Oppenheimer doesn't have a banking
> > relationship with Cablevision.) Investors apparently believe
> > the same, sending shares of Cablevision up 14.6% in recent
> > trading to $25.33.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >






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Re: [VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

All that 2005 stuff with hundreds of channels did sound a little optimistic, didn't it?

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[VOOM] Re: Read into it what you will

Don't forget Microsoft, they are in it too. Alas I too will be going
down with this ship!!





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