Which birds can I hit?

[empiretc]

I currently have 2 fixed dishes. One at G10r and the other at AMC4. I want to fill the 4x1 switch I have and am going to order 2 more universal LNBFs and 2 multi-LNBFs mounts from SatAV.

Which other birds will I be likely to get. How much separation is possible?


TIA !!!!!

 

[Corrado]

I think I would order Standard LNBFs rather than Universals for best results.

 

[empiretc]

I already have universals and want to keep them all the same. I don't plan for and 22khz switches as of yet.

Any chance I can hit AMC3 with a bracket on the AMC4 dish?

 

[schlever]

The maximum distance on either side is 10 degrees, and even then you will have a fair amount of signal loss.

 

[Mr Tony]

no way...too far away

You could do IA5 (97W), AMC15 (105), G3 (95) or even 93W (IA6)

On mine I have 89/93/97/103 with no issues

 

[empiretc]

no way...too far away

You could do IA5 (97W), AMC15 (105), G3 (95) or even 93W (IA6)

On mine I have 89/93/97/103 with no issues

thanks Iceberg and Schlever.

I have one geosatpro pointed at AMC4 and I want to add the LNBFs to that one leaving it as is.

So I should be able to do 93 ok? Is it safe to say 10* the furthest and 4* the closest? If that is the case, then I would only need one bracket and one LNB.

Otherwise I would need to buy the 2 brackets and put the 101 at one end to reach the 30* of separation?

 

[schlever]

Yes that is correct 10* max and a 4* min. You could centre the dish at 93 or 97 then you would be able to get AMC3 and 4 at the outer ends.

Keep in mind that the lnbs are 'flipped' when putting them on. So for a bird to the west of AMC4 it would be on the right hand side facing the dish and vice versa.

 

[empiretc]

Yes that is correct 10* max and a 4* min. You could centre the dish at 93 or 97 then you would be able to get AMC3 and 4 at the outer ends.

Keep in mind that the lnbs are 'flipped' when putting them on. So for a bird to the west of AMC4 it would be on the right hand side facing the dish and vice versa.

That sounds like it would be a lot of fun to try and hit them all. I just worry about the amount of signal loss by doing that.

I would love to get AMC3, G28 and AMC4 on the 1 dish. Am I hoping for too much, LOL?

 

[Keith Brannen]

Any chance I can hit AMC3 with a bracket on the AMC4 dish?

The only way you could get AMC3 (87) and AMC4 (101) on one dish is to have both LNB's off-centre, either 7 degrees off-centre for both, or 6 and 8 degrees off-centre (with the weaker satellite at 6 degrees off-centre).


Edit: see that schlever answered with the same thing as I was typing!

 

[Keith Brannen]

I would love to get AMC3, G28 and AMC4 on the 1 dish. Am I hoping for too much, LOL?

You couldn't get G28 (89) with AMC3 at 87, but you could get G26 at 93 with AMC3 and AMC4.

 

[red2grass]

I try to get from 72W to 93W with a fixed dish and then I saw this Toroidal T90 which claims a 40 degree range equivalent of 90cm dish. How good is this dish?
I am at west coast and the elevation is 22 degrees to 37 degress from 72W to
93W. I am a bit concerned the low elevation angle. Do you guys think I can have a fair good chance to get T90 work for 72 to 90?

 

[schlever]

Some people love them, more people hate them is the feeling I get around here. If you do a search on T90 you'll come across quite a few threads regarding them.

 

[Mr Tony]

I try to get from 72W to 93W with a fixed dish and then I saw this Toroidal T90 which claims a 40 degree range equivalent of 90cm dish. How good is this dish?

check my review in the review area. Have one and love it

 

[Skapare]

I saw this thread and thought I'd just bump it and post here instead of making a new thread that would have essentially the same title. But my question is actually a bit different.

SW of me is a line of large trees blocking extreme W positions. My neighbor has DTV and he said his installer said it just barely made it over the trees. My view is almost the same, but maybe ever so slightly better by a degree or two. But I don't know what angle the DTV bird(s) is/are at, so I don't have a reference point.

The E view is pretty much clear to almost the horizon.

I'm wanting to figure out what FTA satellites I could potentially get, by ruling out those W of the "standard" DTV position. Does anyone know exactly which DTV bird would be aimed at with one dish like that? That would basically tell me what I have a chance to get on FTA.

I looked at Lyngsat but I don't know which of a few birds his DTV dish would be pointing at.

 

[empiretc]

take a look here and you will know for sure where you stand:

Satellite Look Angles Satellite Heading Calculator Azimuth Elevation Skew Tilt LNBF Latitude and Longitude values

 

[Skapare]

take a look here and you will know for sure where you stand:

Satellite Look Angles Satellite Heading Calculator Azimuth Elevation Skew Tilt LNBF Latitude and Longitude values

Google didn't find my house with my street address. It was way, way off. But I entered by latitude/longitude and it got there that way.

There are two separate markers, a red one and a green one. The red one is on my house. The green one is at some distance. What does it mean? There is a box in the middle of the view with 2 numbers measured in feet labeled "d=" and "h=". What do those mean?

 

[Tron]

If it is a DirecTV Phase III dish (their standard dish), it is aimed at 110w and is receiving signals from 101w, 110w, and 119w. If it is barely able to get 119w (farthest west), you may have trouble receiving G-10R at 123w (lots of FTA on that bird).

 

[rv1pop]

green marker

Google didn't find my house with my street address. It was way, way off. But I entered by latitude/longitude and it got there that way.

There are two separate markers, a red one and a green one. The red one is on my house. The green one is at some distance. What does it mean? There is a box in the middle of the view with 2 numbers measured in feet labeled "d=" and "h=". What do those mean?

The green marker is not marking an obstruction, but is giving you an idea of what the path to the satellite looks like. At "d" feet away an obstruction "h" feet high will obstruct / block your signal from that satellite.

 

[Anole]

The OP is wondering which adjacent birds he can hit.
Skapare is having a problem seeing over the trees.
So, I'd suggest the two different solutions would best be served in two threads.

As for the elevation question, I'd print out a list of available satellites from any of the available sites:
TheList
GeoSat
Sadoun
Get a compass and use it along with the magnetic direction from the above printouts...
...for sighting this home-made soda straw inclinometer instrument.
Then go through the birds one at a time, and check off where you can see clear sky through the straw.
When done, you should have your own private list of visible satellites.

Knowing which way a dish on someone else's house is aimed is far too imprecise to be of much use, in my opinion.

 

[empiretc]

i really just wanted to confirm the maximum degree of separation. I think I will let it go for a while as the better half is starting to think it is becoming an obsession, lol.