Team Summit: General Assembly Notes

[Mauiguy1]

Sorry, I think of California as out west. I forget about the two other states .

So does Dishnetwork. That is why I had to move to Direct for most of my programming. Keeping one channel along with all of the other "fees" on one of my dish receivers in case they ever decide to consider AK and HI as part of the nation.

 

[tsduke]

Big Ten Network is national. I have it on the sports pack and I am not in a Big Ten state.

It's national only with the multi sports pack. Otherwise only big ten states get it as another rsn.

 

[Smith P.]

i want a new interface on my 722.

Take 622HZ .

 

[jrp]

It's national only with the multi sports pack. Otherwise only big ten states get it as another rsn.

It is national outside the Big 10 footprint the same way any other premium is — if you pay for it. In large part, I agree about that the normal RSNs shouldn't count individually, but you can get some good college sports on them.

 

[JEFFinINDY]

Take 622HZ .

Is it any good? Reliable?

 

[Uther Pendragon]

So really, you're obsessed over the channel count, and not the quality of the programming?

There's no question that the Dish lineup is stronger today than it was a week ago.

Ok, let's state it in your terms. +22 HD channels that are 75+% SD, then -15 channels HD 24/7. By my math it comes out a sizeable loss to the viewing community. Just because people didn't watch Voom doesn't mean it wasn't a loss overall.

 

[Smith P.]

Is it any good? Reliable?

Seems the M3.08 is stable, but no EHD, Archos support.

 

[Uther Pendragon]

Charlie says that today we have 81 national HD channels and by the end of the year they will have more the 100 national HD channels.

This is such a joke........
The word "National" would indicate anyone in the Nation would be able to view these channels....
I get 1 RSN.....
Why not just add up all the HD Locals and tell me Dish has 287 or whatever it is National HD channels.....

The 81 refers to what the system is carrying, not what you pay for. I get all the RSNs plus Big 10 HD because I pay for it. They count the HD PPV too because you can get it if you're willing to pay for it. I can't tell you if the 81 is accurate because I don't want to go through and count all the channels I get. But I can say I want Voom back, and I was not a previous Voom customer.

 

[Hall]

Charlie announces Eastern Arc (finally) which is an all MPEG4 service which will come from 61.5 72.7 and 77 degrees. Eastern Arc will totally duplicate what exists now on the Western Arc (110 / 119 / 129)

The Eastern Arc rollout will start in September. For folks on the East Coast this will offer much better look angles.

Okay now, the Eastern Arc stuff will be 100% MPEG4 ? What will a new customer (after Sept) who doesn't get an HD set-top get ? A ViP SD receiver ? Do they have one already ?

Existing customers already pointed at 110/119/129 will remain mixed with MPEG2 and MPEG4. Western Arc sure won't be an equal to the Eastern Arc though. It will have to remain MPEG2 and 4 for some time.

 

[drdroo]

I'm kinda curious if there will be SD overlap for HD channels that are a HD mirror. For instance, do we really need TLC SD on Eastern Arc since TLC HD is the same damned thing?

 

[Pepper]

I'm kinda curious if there will be SD overlap for HD channels that are a HD mirror. For instance, do we really need TLC SD on Eastern Arc since TLC HD is the same damned thing?

Absolutely not, since any ViP MPEG-4 receiver will downconvert it to SD on the S-video, composite, and RF outputs.

 

[drdroo]

Good deal, makes sense to me..

 

[kstuart]

Charlie says that today we have 81 national HD channels and by the end of the year they will have more the 100 national HD channels.

This is such a joke........
The word "National" would indicate anyone in the Nation would be able to view these channels....
I get 1 RSN.....
Why not just add up all the HD Locals and tell me Dish has 287 or whatever it is National HD channels.....

The method of counting "81 national HD channels" was started by DirecTV, not Dish Network.

Before they launched their new satellites that provided most of their HD channels, DirecTV said - at the beginning of 2007 - that they would have "100 National HD Channels by the End of 2007". But then DirecTV said that they could include sports packages and RSNs in that total.

So, Dish Network's marketing speak has to use the same method of counting as DirecTV.

In reality, the number of channels does not mean anything - it only matter if the HD program you want to watch is being carried. If an HD channel is added that never has a program you want to see, then it doesn't help you.

DIRECTV: 100 HD Channels Will Include Sunday Ticket

 

[M Sparks]

have not received 1 telephone call regarding the Voom channels being gone.

Who would be dumb enough to call the installer to complain about a programming change?

"Errr, I think you done got the cable all kinked up, cause sum of tha chainnels ain't coming through."

We do not have ability to change any programming, give free programming, give credits, etc.

Exactly

 

[KAB]

Who would be dumb enough to call the installer to complain about a programming change?

Oh, probably about half of all subscribers.

 

[mperdue]

Charlie has a long way to go to get to 100 channels this year as far as I am concerned. I have the HD only pak and only get 45 channels, plus HBO, 5 Max, Cmax, starz, and Showtime, which makes 50. He needs another 50 to get to 100. How does he come up with 81 National HD Channels, Scott.

He was 15 channels closer to 100 before he turned off VOOM.

Mario

 

[Tyralak]

I can answer that right now... due to DRM you won't see an ATSC output.

Did they state that, or is it speculation. I know that's the general consensus as to why we haven't had it already, but do the specs show exactly what kind of tuner?

 

[jerryez]

Big Ten Network is national. I have it on the sports pack and I am not in a Big Ten state.

5 PPV are included in my count, but Big Ten Net is not in my package. I don't get it, so it is not National.

DISH Network -- Dish HD

 

[Tyralak]

I guess I'm kind of disappointed here that the 722 customers will probably need a new box in order to have Sling built in or support two-way remotes.

You'd think the hardware platform wouldn't be that much different and we could have a software upgrade to enable some of this stuff.

Who knows, maybe they will offer a software upgrade but I think history suggests I'll be waiting for my 18 month to end so I can upgrade again.

I have a feeling that at some point, when we start putting in these new 722s, my existing units will suddenly become "defective", and I'll be forced to replace them.

 

[Tyralak]

The problem is how big of a pain in the *** the customer can be if such a thing isn't marketed carefully. Heck, even if it is marketed carefully then I'm sure the customer would still find some way to make the installer's life hell.

Of course they will! They already do. Now, it's a given if the AT&T. call center starts pushing these. They already screw up at least half the work orders I get.