Ciel 2 Tracking

[nelson61]

Still no movement at 138W as of this morning


CIEL-2
1 33453U 08063A 09009.61380446 .00000107 00000-0 10000-3 0 471
2 33453 0.0455 164.4816 0000671 191.2459 196.5238 1.00274670 325

 

[RTCDude]

Orbital Elements

ciel-2
1 33453u 08063a   09008.50517182  .00000112  00000-0  10000-3 0   462
2 33453 000.0506 158.0298 0000302 218.5338 135.4823 01.00274627   318

Perfect! Just what I wanted. Thanks JohnH.

 

[broadcasttheworld]

It might even be stronger than whats on 61.5 since it is a new bird.

61.5 is doing pretty good for me now. But might as well use 129 since its new

 

[nelson61]

Still at 138W as of this morning.

1 33453U 08063A 09010.64730608 .00000102 00000-0 10000-3 0 4922 33453 000.0480 173.0829 0000474 190.5516 201.7090 01.00275248 338

 

[E*Dude]

For those that would like to track CEIL-2 visually and decypher some of the tracking data, use these links...

CIEL-2 - Orbit Data

LIVE REAL TIME SATELLITE TRACKING: CIEL-2

 

[Fitzie]

1 33453U 08063A 09011.64117189 .00000099 00000-0 10000-3 0 514
2 33453 000.0473 176.7453 0000570 180.5944 206.7815 01.00275464 345


From the "orbit data" page. Still at 138W. Beginning to look as if the period from launch to light-up will be similar to E11, 41 or more days. (Feb. 20?)

Regards,
Fitzie

 

[Laddyboy]

1 33453U 08063A 09011.64117189 .00000099 00000-0 10000-3 0 514
2 33453 000.0473 176.7453 0000570 180.5944 206.7815 01.00275464 345


From the "orbit data" page. Still at 138W. Beginning to look as if the period from launch to light-up will be similar to E11, 41 or more days. (Feb. 20?)

Regards,
Fitzie

There's still gobs of time to mosey on over to 129W and transfer programming before the end of the month. I'm not guaranteeing they will, I'm just saying...

 

[HDRoberts]

Remember, all, Ciel-2 is a part spotbeam sat. They take extra time to test than a pure CONUS sat like E11. There are not 32 TPs to check, there are 161 on 54 different beams (including CONUS, but not Canada)

One thing working in it's favor is it only has to go from 138 to 129 (9 degrees versus the 28 degrees E11 had to move).

Once we see it start moving, we will probably start seeing programming from it in a week.

Don't think just because the STA for E5 to move begins Jan 15th that that's when they plan on moving it. It's a 30 day window, and they can request an extension.

 

[Quantum]

Nevertheless, they're late.

They need to move equipment to different geographic locations to test all the spotbeams, so I guess that takes some time. But that should have been accounted for in the projections.

 

[harshness]

But that should have been accounted for in the projections.

What projections? Could you provide a link?

 

[HDRoberts]

Nevertheless, they're late.

They need to move equipment to different geographic locations to test all the spotbeams, so I guess that takes some time. But that should have been accounted for in the projections.

What projections? Where have they come out and said "we will complete testing XX/XX/2009 and begin operations YY/YY/2009?" The closest I've heard is some Dish folks saying "the end of the month." That's still a couple weeks away.

 

[Laddyboy]

What projections? Where have they come out and said "we will complete testing XX/XX/2009 and begin operations YY/YY/2009?" The closest I've heard is some Dish folks saying "the end of the month." That's still a couple weeks away.

More than 2 weeks, me thinks, 19 days maybe.

 

[jacmyoung]

Moving from 138 to 129 could be done in a matter of a day or two, if they are in a hurry, couldn't they?

 

[rocatman]

Moving from 138 to 129 could be done in a matter of a day or two, if they are in a hurry, couldn't they?

Yes that is possible but I wouldn't expect it because it would use a significant amount of fuel. I would it expect it will take about 5 - 7 days.

 

[navychop]

Oh, let's not waste any fuel. That baby might be in orbit for a long, long, LONG time.

 

[RandallA]

Oh, let's not waste any fuel. That baby might be in orbit for a long, long, LONG time.

+1. We waited this long for a new satellite at 129, what's another week?

 

[Quantum]

What projections? Where have they come out and said "we will complete testing XX/XX/2009 and begin operations YY/YY/2009?" The closest I've heard is some Dish folks saying "the end of the month." That's still a couple weeks away.

Oh, OK. If you're going to play dumb then I'm not going to help.

 

[Shortfork]

More than 2 weeks, me thinks, 19 days maybe.

I hate to say it but I'm done with Dish Network... I can't use the channels I pay for, there really is no promise from Dish that this new Sat will fix the signal drop problems those of us on the Pacific coast have (they will not even acknowledge that there is a problem with 129)

To top it off, they don't seem to be able to negotiate a deal with the ABC affiliates here in the PacNW area so we're without that service as well...

Now if I can just get out of the balance of my 24 month "contract" with them...

Sorry to drag this off topic but I'm just so fed up trying to watch something I'm paying for, sitting on th edge of my seat, getting up each morning wondering "will this be the day I can finally enjoy HD channels??" and finding out that it will still be weeks away...

Bummed!

Wayne Sagar

 

[HDRoberts]

Oh, OK. If you're going to play dumb then I'm not going to help.

I'm not the only one who asked. If Dish gave a specific date to begin operating the sat, please show us. If not, no one can say they are late.

 

[Quantum]

Hey Wayne, I'm with ya man. I'm in Puget, altho don't have signal problems on 129.

Do you have a 24" dish, like you're supposed to? Or just a regular 20" Dish500 for 129? You also might have a bad connector somewhere along the line. You want to use RG6 and eliminate all connectors if possible, except at the ends.