Does Dish downrez HD channels?

[rad]

So, what are those 3 HD channels - can you post #/name/sat/tpn ?

He did not say, only that 3 channels are downrezzed, folks that say otherwise are misinformed.

 

[Smith P.]

We need to know it for answer to the question.

 

[gadgtfreek]

What crackpot thinks that?

He did not say, only that 3 channels are downrezzed, folks that say otherwise are misinformed.

 

[rad]

We need to know it for answer to the question.

How about if someone could check 6 channels for a sample, like:

Fox News
TNT
CNN
HD Net
SyFi
TLC

If more then three of those channels are down-rez'ed then we know they were incorrect.

 

[rad]

What crackpot thinks that?

Let's just say he's a loyal E* customer that's active on another site (and it's not JL).

 

[gadgtfreek]

Ah, that place. Why doesnt he prove it if he knows so much?

 

[Hemi 6.1]

He did not say, only that 3 channels are downrezzed, folks that say otherwise are misinformed.

Thank you .

 

[Hemi 6.1]

If E* HD channels aren't downrezzed, Then How come most of D* HD channels look better, and all of Fios HD channels look better?
If its not downrezzing, then its over compression, vs D* and Fios.
I've yeT seen better cable HD tv PQ, but I've seen plenty of better D* and Fios HD PQ.

So that must mean something, and can't be blaimed on receivers, because the 211, 211k 612,622,and 722, 722k PQ looks no different , I've had them all!
And I'm not a Huge D* fan, But the PQ that comes out of D* very First MPEG HD DVR HR20 is better then most I've seen with E*. Not by alot, but I notice it.
The best PQ I've seen with E* is when them Voom channels were going strong. Nothing D* had compaired to them IMHO.
YESHD was close, Thats about it.

 

[vurbano]

Just reading the question makes me chuckle

 

[goaliebob99]

I have been surprised how small of files the HD 1 hour sat recordings are.

That would be signs of a low bitrate

 

[Hemi 6.1]

How about if someone could check 6 channels for a sample, like:

Fox News
TNT
CNN
HD Net
SyFi
TLC

If more then three of those channels are down-rez'ed then we know they were incorrect.

Out of the channels you just listed, From my own eye, I would say TNT,HD Net,SYFY and TLC have been downrezzed more then they used to be. I think PQ is SLOWLY going south, My guess lack of space, Question is will it ever seem to come back?

 

[tomcrown1]

Yes dish in my opinion does over compress their picture. Whenever I watch local HD it is over the air not on Dish. The HD picture over the are is 100% better than dish----even my on geek girl friend can tell the difference.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

That would be signs of a low bitrate

Thats funny , I knew there must have been some reason my 30 HD hour 622 seems to hold over 45 real hours of HD recordings.:rant:

 

[rockymtnhigh]

That would be signs of a low bitrate

No, not at all. Don't forget the difference between mpeg-4 and mpeg-2 encoding. I have copies of stuff that was done in mpeg-2 archived and other copies done in mpeg-4, and the file size differences are substantial, even though the smaller mpeg-4 files usually look better

 

[Hemi 6.1]

No, not at all. Don't forget the difference between mpeg-4 and mpeg-2 encoding. I have copies of stuff that was done in mpeg-2 archived and other copies done in mpeg-4, and the file size differences are substantial, even though the smaller mpeg-4 files usually look better

I like your explaination better

 

[Smith P.]

Ask digi - he could quickly measure bit-rate for each channel.
Resolution could be measured for some "FTA" channels (usually LiL) by him also. Other channels will req R5000HD board.

 

[goaliebob99]

Reason I'm asking is in a discussion with an E* user he's said that they only downrez 3 HD channels and anyone that says something else is lying, just trying to find out if he's making a truthful statement or not.

As I said earlier, not wanting to make this a E* vs. anyother service, just asking a question about E*.

Last time I checked (via slingbox) Wich was 5 min ago All 1080I channels minus 3 were being down rezed, Bitrates were averaging from 6 -14 Mbits on the mpeg 4 channels.

The reason why dish looks so bad vs directv, is because directv has more room on their transponders and Dish is squeezing the same amount of channels per transpoder D* does (some cases more). Thus, the amount of avaliable bandwidth is alot less. Hell I have to admit that some feeds on Directv do look almost as good as thier cband counterparts. But you still can see a diffrence between those and Cband. Fios on the other hand Is in a leauge of its own. Att could have been there with fios, but they chose to go cheap and not complete the fiber to the home with uverse.

 

[Smith P.]

Sling is not the tool for measure - it's convert from ANALOG to digital by its own guts. ALL your numbers are Sling's numbers, not from Dish.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Fios on the other hand Is in a leauge of its own. .

I agree completely! FIOS for someone who has never had a chance to see it in full force. Is like watching D* best HD channel, and Improving the PQ another step futher. Fios is the Blu Ray of the televison providers.
I wish I could have it. Fios is the only reason I love going to my IN-Laws.

 

[peano]

He did not say, only that 3 channels are downrezzed, folks that say otherwise are misinformed.

An out and out lie. ALL HD channels on Dish are downrezzed and they have lower bitrates than Directv.

A DVB card and TSReader shows the truth. (I don't have that but others do and have posted the resolutions and bitrates.)