I noticed the 722k has an 'antenna in' coax connector. If I just connect some old rabbit ears will I be able to watch SD/HD locals immediately, or do I need to buy an over the air module? Thought the module was already installed on the 722k?
Over the air module / antenna - locals
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Rather then "Antenna In" I believe that you will see "Remote Antenna." Where 'Remote' doesn't mean far away but rather "Remote Control."
It's for the stub antenna that your receivers uses to receive remote control signals.To receive OTA signals you will indeed need the OTA Module. With that module, the input will be labeled, "Over The Air Antenna In" with a picture of a rooftop antenna. The module may or not already have an OTA module. If it's there it is in the upper left hand corner as you look at the rear.
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You must subscribe to the Dish locals in order to receive any OTA guide info. If you do subscribe, you will get OTA guide info for the stations Dish provides and also any other OTA channels that your receiver can receive.
If you choose not to subscribe to your locals, you will see "Digital Service" on any OTA channels that your guide shows. You could create timers for the OTA shows, but it would be timers that you would have to specify the start time and the end time and the channel.
SaltiDawg,
You indicated "also any other OTA channels that your receiver can receive"
When I spoke to a "second level technical support" person I was told that the OTA subchannels would not appear in the guide since Dish locals do not include any subchannels. In my situation, local stations ownership has resulted in one high power distribution channel with 3 local stations - 12.1(NBC), 12.2(CW) and 12.3(CBS). So I need the subchannels for the OTA to appear in the guide. Do you (or anyone) have actual experience in seeing the OTA subchannels in the Dish guide?
You indicated "also any other OTA channels that your receiver can receive"
When I spoke to a "second level technical support" person I was told that the OTA subchannels would not appear in the guide since Dish locals do not include any subchannels. In my situation, local stations ownership has resulted in one high power distribution channel with 3 local stations - 12.1(NBC), 12.2(CW) and 12.3(CBS). So I need the subchannels for the OTA to appear in the guide. Do you (or anyone) have actual experience in seeing the OTA subchannels in the Dish guide?
When I said, "also any other OTA channels that your receiver can receive" I had in mind any different stations. In other words, my Dish sat locals include a bunch of Washington DC area stations. However, I can pick up a bunch of Baltimore OTA via my chimney mounted antenna. Dish does not provide me those Baltimore channels via sat. (I assume Dish does provide those channels as locals to people that lve in Baltimore.)
I do subscribe to Dish Sat locals and the guide is fully filled in for those channels and also for the Baltimore Channels that I only get OTA.
I see how you thought I meant sub-channels. Yes, Dish provides the Guide info for the sub-channels I receive OTA.
Let me use my local ABC affiliate as an example. I get that ABC from Dish as a HD sat local. I also get it as an OTA signal with two sub-channels. On my Guide I have:
007-00 ABC from Dish via Sat
007-01 ABC OTA
007-02 ABC Weather
007-03 ABC Old TV Shows
EDIT: The Guide is filled in with the proper guide info for all of the CH7 channels and sub-channels.
Now I don't care about the last two so I actually do not display them on my custom Guide.
Let's say That I want simultaneously record three network shows and one FX sat show. I would set up two OTA timers for the network. One Sat timer for the networks via the Sat, and of course FX from the Sat.
Now, If I want three Sat recordings and one Network simultaneously I can not do it as I am limited to two Sat tuners.
Hope that helps.
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Thank you SaltiDawg,
Since it sounds like I can get the OTA locals on the guide, now I have to find a way to get a 722k from DishNetwork on a "lease". I can't get LOS to a satellite that has my locals, so I need to get them OTA. I currently have a 625 and there is no economical way to get to the 722k and am told that there is no way to even get a commitment that I would actually get a 722k.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/member.php?u=10928
Since it sounds like I can get the OTA locals on the guide, now I have to find a way to get a 722k from DishNetwork on a "lease". I can't get LOS to a satellite that has my locals, so I need to get them OTA. I currently have a 625 and there is no economical way to get to the 722k and am told that there is no way to even get a commitment that I would actually get a 722k.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/member.php?u=10928
I'm in the Washington DC DMA as well. Would you double check our Ion affiliate, channel 66, and also the MHz Network channel 30 subchannels? None of the channel 66 OTA channels are filled in for me, and most of the MHz Network subchannels are also not filled in.
Actually, I recommend telling Dish to send a ViP722K, and if the guy shows up with anything else, you will cancel the install immediately. And then go to the truck and see what box he plans on bringing inside. If it's not a "K" send him on his way. Politely.
Odds are pretty high that you'll be sent a "K" anyway.
I realize things change. I've see a number of posts that say Dish is unable to specify exactly which VIP receiver will be delivered. Some have suggested contacting a local authorized Dish dealer. I see above that Navychop suggests not accepting delivery of anything else and seeing if the truck has a 722k that the driver will use to satisfy the service call.
Finally, again things change, I called Dish in July of last year and asked if I could upgrade one of my 622s to a 722k. I was told, "Yes." I said I would need the OTA Module which was going for $39.95 at that time IIRC. Again, "Yes." They shipped me the new 722k and the OTA module at no cost. It turns out they did not tack on an additional commitment.
I suspect that there is a way to specify a 722k.
I do not receive Ch 30 from the Sat. (Eastern Arc.) I do get it OTA plus nine sub-channels - the Guide is present for 030-01 and 030-02 but not for 030-03 thru 030-10.
I do receive 066-00 from the Sat and 066-01 and three sub-channels OTA. Guide info is available for 066-00 and 066-01 but not the other three sub-channels.
I do not watch these channels so I don't know what the impact is.
Same as me then, except for the missing satellite channel. Have a look at 8077; WNVC is there. You don't have the mapdown at 30-00?
Well then you are treated better than me because I get no info whatsoever for the OTA main channel or subchannels. This is galling because it was working fine before the digital transiton. Note that 66-01 is HD, while on Dish it is still only SD.
I see WNVC at Ch 8077. It does not map down to to 030-00. My OTA sub-channels are not labled as WNVC but rather Mhz....
Both WNVC and WNVT are MHz channels. They a re the old 53 and 56 which now broadcast on 24 and 30 but they should BOTH map down to 30.
Used to know another DC area type that used a similar online handle. He was a nice guy and I am sure you are as well.
I have used that handle for 14 years. It was the name of my (English) Bulldog Kennels. In addition to dog forums, 5-6 years ago I posted in G-35 Infiniti forums while researching a car purchase for my wife.
The Kennel Club will not allow the name of a breed or part of the breed name to be used in a Kennel Name. I am a retired Navy Submariner so... Salti + dawg (not dog as in Bulldog.
)You can get data ONLY for those that have at least one of their channels on DIsh. If you are looking at a station not carried on dish (12-1 for instance is not carried) then ALL of the subchannels will be "Digital Service". IF the main channel (again, 12-1) is carried, then data for all subchannels is proviced.
Except when they aren't! Good examples above in the Washington DMA. We have Megahertz network currently broadcasting 10 virtual channels 30.1-10 from two transmitters on RF 24 (WNVC) and RF 30 (WNVT). Dish inexplicably carries WNVC on satellite channel 53, and WNVT on channel 56. OTA channels are as SaltiDawg stated above; 2 channels have guide data while the rest do not.
Ion channels likewise are screwed up, I believe because Dish carries the national feed via satellite and does not actually provide a stream from the local affiliates. None of my OTA WPXW channels on virtual channel 66 show up; they're all Digital Service.
Are you referring to your Ion subchannels? How about your main channel which (at least in my neck of the woods) is in HD and shows Digital Service? The guide data worked fine for us in the DC DMA before the transition.
