When can we expect Dish to jump on the 3D bandwagon?

I actually have plenty of 3D to watch as I use DVD Fab to convert 2D-3D and even my Samsung 43 inch plasma 3D tv has a 2D-3D function. Both do a pretty decent job of adding the 3D effect if you just have to have 3D to view. Since I have Dish also, I have not seen ESPN 3D so I don't know how much better it is in 3D. I do know I can also add I have a Playstation 3 which has tons of 3D games to enjoy. I tend to agree with alot of the comments though; that 3D is more a fad and will probably never be top of the list mainstream and this I feel is due mostly in part of having enough 3D type content such as action movies which 3D was designed for.
 
3D was not designed for any genre, I've watched comedy, nature, action sports, travel and more from the Directv channels and all have their pluses ...

Not so sure I agree as in action movies specifically shot in 3D always go for the "WOW" factor ie items being thrown or pointed directly to the cameras/viewers.

To me that is what sets 3D movies apart from the standard 2D.
 
I actually have plenty of 3D to watch as I use DVD Fab to convert 2D-3D and even my Samsung 43 inch plasma 3D tv has a 2D-3D function. Both do a pretty decent job of adding the 3D effect if you just have to have 3D to view.
Unless the content was originally created in 3D, it's not even worth the trouble of putting on the glasses. The built-in 2D-3D conversion just doesn't cut it.
 
3D was not designed for any genre, I've watched comedy, nature, action sports, travel and more from the Directv channels and all have their pluses ...
3D will work in any genre, if the original content was created with stereoscopic cameras, or in the case of CG, with the proper stereoscopic rendering.

Sports can certainly be enhanced by using the proper camera angles. And, films can benefit from shots and blocking designed to maximize the effect.
 
That "bandwagon" has 3 flat tires and no band, just an old 8 track.

Sales are disappointing. People that get 3D often drift away from it, judging from posts in this thread. That spells "gimmick." Without major changes, and maybe even with major changes, 3D will remain niche.
 
Also, how do 3DTV sales compare to DVD Players, BD Players, and HDTV sales during the same point in those technologies' life cycles?

That can't be compared. Between myself and immediate family I can think of 8 TVs bought in the last year or so. I think all but one are probably 3D, but only because they were higher end TVs. 3D did not factor into the decision, and I doubt any non-bundled glasses have been purchased.

3D is just bullet point on the features list for any upper-mid to high end TV at this point.

I don't think its going away, but don't think it is a major driver of purchases at this point.
 
There is conflicting testimony on this. Originally Mitsubishi blocked Samsung receivers from using their converter. Which ones and if at all it can be done might be an expensive experiment. Don, what was the approx. cost, if you can say.

I like my HL-T5687 because it uses LEDs instead of a bulb and color wheel. Had an HL-S5687 with a noisy wheel from the prior year. After several "replace" failures and for money, Samsung upgraded me. I replaced the red LED a couple of months ago after 4 years, just over $100 with many hours on it, maybe 10000. I would have had several bulb replacements at over $100 each because I leave it on a lot. It has no wheel. The red LED has 24 fins vs green of 14 and blue of 10, as I remember. So it must get hot--the internal chip leads were melted. There is an AVS board on this model > 14000 posts IIRC. The picture is superb in Movie mode, unfortunately the hardest on the red LED. Checking hours of use resets all settings so I'm not checking it.

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I just bought a new Toshiba hd 3-d tv last month. Almost every tv that Conns had on display was 3-d. So I really didn't have much a choice if I didn't want one. The 3-ds were all on sale and I just couldn't see paying more to get less tv by buying a non 3-d hd tv. I paid $999.00 for a 46 inch 3-d tv and they threw in a free 3-d blu-ray player with all the internet apps like netflix, vudu,blockbuster, pandora, etc. I also bought another pair of 3-d glasses for $79.00. The financing deal was 36 months and NO interest, so my payment would be $33.00 a month . But I'll pay it off by next month with the overtime checks I'll get. So far I've watched only Capt. America in 3-d on DISH and it looked spectacular. The 2-d to 3-d upconversion is less impressive to me. I've used it on a few programs but it really doesn't make that much difference . Case in point was trying to watch Avatar in upconverted 3- d. It simply didn't look that much different. I might try buying some 3-d blu -rays ,but if the price stays high , I will pass. I still don't buy regular blu-rays ,because they are simply too high in price to me ,compared to just regular dvds. And I have to say that watching upconverted to hd dvds looks pretty good to me, unlike upconverted shows to 3-d.
 
That can't be compared. Between myself and immediate family I can think of 8 TVs bought in the last year or so. I think all but one are probably 3D, but only because they were higher end TVs. 3D did not factor into the decision, and I doubt any non-bundled glasses have been purchased.

3D is just bullet point on the features list for any upper-mid to high end TV at this point.

I don't think its going away, but don't think it is a major driver of purchases at this point.
Precisely why I don't think 3DTV "sales are disappointing".
 
With all due respect, I think you are completely wrong. 3D is no more a gimmick than surround sound or HD video were when they were in their infancy. Most of us would not think of doing without either of those at this point.

Now that you can get a complete, good quality system for less than $1000 I think it has reached the point of viability.

Yeah, but HD video and surround sound don't give a large portion of the population headaches and eye fatigue. They also don't require you to wear idiotic glasses. 3D--for me--is a huge distraction when trying to watch a movie.
 
It's going to be easy for 3D TV sales to go up when they make more and more models that have the feature. For some people the model they want just happens to have 3D wether they want it or not. I know that over half of the 3D TVs I've sold were not not bought because they did 3D. I've actually only sold two TVs just because they were 3D. I will admit that interest has picked up a little though.
 
Precisely why I don't think 3DTV "sales are disappointing".

But you can't say "3D sales are good" either. It's almost like saying HDTV sales are good at this point - of course they are - all TVs are HD now. HD has the advantage of still being in a waive of replacing all the CRTs out there. Will there ever be a wave of replacing 2D only HD sets?

The almost complete lack of "hype" and any real price premium this season implies that 3D is not a large motivating factor for TV purchases. Until the last gasps of SD CRTs, color always sold for more than black and white. I don't think you will see that with 3D after another year or so.

The good news for 3D enthusiasts is the market is being primed for 3D content. We're still in the middle of the chicken or egg stage for 3D, for more content we need more 3D units. The question is how many folks will watch 3D once they can? We're still a couple of years away from knowing how much real traction will be there.
 
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Yeah, but HD video and surround sound don't give a large portion of the population headaches and eye fatigue. They also don't require you to wear idiotic glasses. 3D--for me--is a huge distraction when trying to watch a movie.
Then watch the 2D version if you do not like the glasses or get headaches, eye fatigue or cannot see 3D as some cannot for one reason or another, but let those of us that can and enjoy 3D have some channels with Dish...
 
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Nope, it was a dud.

As pointed out by others in this thread, including the fanboys, the industry is investing heavily in 3D technology, with presumably an intent to saturate the market with 3DTV sets. If this is true, and there is evidence of it already, at some point most if not all of the newer and more higher end models will be 3D capable. For consumers that don't want/can't use/don't care about the technology, they will be relegated to a choice of purchasing older or lower end models, or pony up the money to purchase a set that has it. Similar to the complaint that non-sports fans have to subsidize the higher price of sports programming in satellite/cable programming packages, the consumer who won't be using 3D technology will still be paying for the technology if they have no real alternative.
 

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