MLB 2012 Season
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I can see Salsa's point. You want a Marlin to replace a Marlin. But then what if the Marlin that replaces the Marlin screws another team out of a player from playing in the game?
Ramy said:
Doesn't mean every single player. But the overall team does not have their best. Two of the three outfielders are not the best. They don't have their best at 3rd, SS, and second.
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Ramy said:
Yeah. In 1998 they traded their only All Star, Jeff Shaw, to the Dodgers the day before the game. He pitched his first game in a Dodgers uniform in the All Star game leaving no Red at all in the game.
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Holy crap! A 99 mph fastball and a 88 mph curveball??!! Is that even fair?! LOL!
And Chapman has even thrown yet...!
And Chapman has even thrown yet...!
Verlander was worse than that, he was consistently at 97-100 with the heater and 84 on the two curves he threw for K's.
Personally, I think that was a lot of JV's problem tonight.
He never starts out at 97, he starts around 91-92 and goes to the high heat only when he needs a K, when he's pitching a regular game.
I think he didn't mix his pitches at all and was over amped for his first start.
It has zero to do with what I would pick. It has everything to do with talent by position.Jimbo said:
It's not a team of best players by position in the NL, period. Whereas the AL is more represented by their best payers at each position. Some of which is due to injury, such as Kemp, and some is due to voting, such as David Wright.
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Jimbo said:
Chapman has been clocked at 104+ a few times year, highest in a few years.
As far as Verlander, his velocity was not an issue. It was typical pitcher issues...if you can't find the plate and throw balls down the plate...you will get hit, whether you are Verlander, Sabathia or a high school player. And in an MLB All-Star game where everyone hits the fastball..you gotta be as close to perfect as possible.
I thought I explained it previously ...
He STAYED at 97-100 thruout the inning, thats NOT typical of his outings, he typically will start lower and work his way up to High heat and mix in his other pitches, which he didn't do ...
Don't know why, but like you said, if your throwing the same speed they will get hit regardless.
Jimbo said:
Dude...speed is not the issue. The SPOT where they land in the strike zone. In the MLB, just about everyone throws hard. What separates bad pitching from great pitching is location....period. Jaime Moyer cannot break wet toilet paper with his velocity...but what made him successful till his mid to upper 40s....location and the spotting of his pitches.
I understand that entirely, as I said before , had he mixed his pitches he would have been much better.
He quit trying to throw that hard this year due to not being able to control it all the time.
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