Wonder how the Direct TV / ATT merge will effect Dish! Will Dish survive or have to merge with another company to be on the same level to compete? What do you think?
Direct TV / ATT Merge & Dish
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Dish will survive but as for what D* customers had enjoyed over the years might soon experience the worst csr service and possibly programming to go down hill. I used to be a ATT U-Verse customer for their internet & telephone service but left due to their very poor csr and product service. I feel sorry for the D* customers. If this ATT buy-out goes through.
In the end, I see an upgrade in service for those who subscribe to U-Verse. Doesn't either Shaw or Bell, or both, have a similar model in Canada where they operate a cable service and a satellite service simultaneously?
Both. Shaw owns Shaw Direct & Shaw Cable and Bell owns BellTV & Bell Fiber. Shaw Cable is only available out west and Bell Fiber is only out east, and their sat divisions are coast to coast.
I would like to see Dish merge with Verizon if they have to merge with someone. I like the way Verizon is running fiber direct to house in some areas. I think our country needs to get moving to fiber everywhere.
Too bad it hasn't been paying off for Verizon and they're cutting way back on deployments.
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Verizon is done expanding, and Dish is moving in the opposite direction of wired services, so I would say it's a non starter for them to merge. I can see Dish moving to having online TV using wireless connections.
If you mean a buyout, I suppose anything it possible. Probably the biggest rivalry is At&t and Verizon wireless, but not TV services. If Verizon can up At&t's wireless service they would do it, but I'm not sure being with Dish does that, unless the spectrum Dish has would. I'd say Dish/Echostar is on the path to be the buyer, rather than be bought.
http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/verizons-mcadam-new-fios-markets-are-not-cards/2013-12-09
Report: Verizon has held talks with Dish
18 MINUTES AGOVZ, DISH, TMUS
Sources tell dealReporter Verizon (VZ +0.1%) has held talks with Dish (DISH -0.3%). Dish shares are near breakeven after trading lower much of the day in response to the AT&T/DirecTV deal.
AT&T/DirecTV has fueled speculation Verizon could counter with an offer for Dish, which owns a large chunk of high-frequency spectrum that could be used to offer 4G services. But there has also been a fair amount of skepticism, particularly given Verizon just spent $130B to buy Vodafone's Verizon Wireless stake.
Analyst Craig Moffett: "Dish Network has just been left standing ... That Verizon might be a buyer is more wishful thinking than it is analysis." Wells Fargo thinks Verizon might bid for Dish's spectrum, but not the whole company.
The deal has also renewed speculation Dish will try to merge with T-Mobile (TMUS +2.1%), which could face tough regulatory opposition to a merger with Sprint.
Reuters reported in December Dish is weighing an offer for the #4 U.S. carrier, and Charlie Ergen has said a deal is a possibility.
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18 MINUTES AGOVZ, DISH, TMUS
Sources tell dealReporter Verizon (VZ +0.1%) has held talks with Dish (DISH -0.3%). Dish shares are near breakeven after trading lower much of the day in response to the AT&T/DirecTV deal.
AT&T/DirecTV has fueled speculation Verizon could counter with an offer for Dish, which owns a large chunk of high-frequency spectrum that could be used to offer 4G services. But there has also been a fair amount of skepticism, particularly given Verizon just spent $130B to buy Vodafone's Verizon Wireless stake.
Analyst Craig Moffett: "Dish Network has just been left standing ... That Verizon might be a buyer is more wishful thinking than it is analysis." Wells Fargo thinks Verizon might bid for Dish's spectrum, but not the whole company.
The deal has also renewed speculation Dish will try to merge with T-Mobile (TMUS +2.1%), which could face tough regulatory opposition to a merger with Sprint.
Reuters reported in December Dish is weighing an offer for the #4 U.S. carrier, and Charlie Ergen has said a deal is a possibility.
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What a ridicules speculation passed off as news. They even debunk their own story. Who had the pool this would be written within a couple hours of the announced merger. If you did you win.
I know, maybe Charlie could help them! I think my state was dropped from the deployment list.
My gut tells me Charlie is grinning from ear to ear right now. After this deal, if passed, AT&T won't have the funds they need (and want, which is why this does not make sense to me) for more spectrum, which is what they would need more than ever if they are going to expand their video business. Now, AT&T is in the sat business. Whoopie. One saturated company buying another saturated company. And then there's Charlie, saying, "you need spectrum? I've got spectrum. How bad do you want it? Oh, too bad, you just got outbid!" And then he's thinking, how many AT&T haters will be heading to Dish? Bigger grin.
Thanks for the link. Really sad, I was hoping Verizon's FiOS would generate other companies to pursue FiOS too, all the way to the house.
V & D need only do business together. No need for one to own the other. No dowry required.
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I am in a CTL area as well and get a $5 bundle credit from DTV. Since AT&T and CTL do not compete directly, they could leave that bundle offer alone. I know that you can get Verizon Wireless through CTL. I have AT&T for wireless, so they will probably offer an increased bundle discount now with wireless accounts.
I don't understand why Verizon does not act like other utilities: Builder, you put in fiber in the neighborhood you're building, to each house and to one central point. And we'll hang our box on the outside, making everything ready for switching on.
Saves V money and time, costs the builder a little but not so much since he's err, already building and digging and everything is open. No pesky lawns. And the builder gets to advertise Fios ready. Surely that's of some value.
Yes, some local "authority" will have to be appeased, but that has to be done any way.
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According to CBS Marketwatch via WSJ:
AT&T Deal Puts Pressure on Dish
By: Ryan Knutson
Big communications companies are again starting to pair up, putting pressure on the ones that don’t have a partner.
In the latest move, AT&T Inc. T -0.92% agreed to buy DirecTV DTV -1.73% for $49 billion to create a pay-TV and wireless-phone giant with about $160 billion in combined revenue and well over 120 million subscribers for various services.
The deal follows Comcast Corp.’s CMCSA +1.42% $45 billion agreement to buy Time Warner Cable Inc. TWC +1.38% , a merger that would create a huge broadband Internet provider and which forced executives across the telecommunications and technology industries to develop strategies for how to bulk up to compete.
Sprint Corp. S +1.33% , meanwhile, has continued forging ahead on a possible bid for smaller rival T-Mobile US Inc TMUS +2.39% .
Notably absent from the latest round of deal making is Charlie Ergen’s Dish Network Corp. DISH -0.78% , a satellite broadcaster, like DirecTV, but with its eyes on the wireless industry.
The AT&T deal kills two attractive options for Dish: an acquisition by AT&T and a merger with DirecTV. Many people on Wall Street thought a better deal for AT&T would have been to buy Dish, which has amassed valuable wireless airwaves, something carriers need to meet the growing demand from phones and tablets for streaming video and other data.
Now, Dish’s options have been severely trimmed. The government requires the company to begin putting its spectrum to use within the next few years, and Dish lacks a network or a partner with which to do that efficiently.
Eyes also are turning to Verizon Communications Inc. VZ +0.31% , which is bigger than AT&T in the wireless business but is still developing its video strategy. Verizon completed its $130 billion acquisition of U.K.-based Vodafone PLC’s 45% stake in their wireless joint venture this year, and the U.S. carrier said it is focused on integrating its wireless and wireline businesses and isn’t looking for major deals.
An expanded version of this article appears on WSJ.
My comments:
As a sub, I like the idea that Dish is staying like it is. I think Dish should wait to see what happens with this partnership. I do not always like the bundling aspect; sometimes it seems like it is more difficult to get rid of one service when you have multiple services with one provider. It could also work the other way around in that it may be difficult to get one service without another or more than just another service. However, I may be wrong from the business aspect. I do not know how customers will react. I noticed around here that Uverse really is not that great in terms of speed from friends and relatives who have it. Uverse actually is not available in our area according to the site even though we live close to them. We have local cable Internet that works better and faster. Sadly, after taking a Speedtest, the national grade was a D (33%) while the global grade was a C+ (55%). I can only imagine what their results would be...
AT&T Deal Puts Pressure on Dish
By: Ryan Knutson
Big communications companies are again starting to pair up, putting pressure on the ones that don’t have a partner.
In the latest move, AT&T Inc. T -0.92% agreed to buy DirecTV DTV -1.73% for $49 billion to create a pay-TV and wireless-phone giant with about $160 billion in combined revenue and well over 120 million subscribers for various services.
The deal follows Comcast Corp.’s CMCSA +1.42% $45 billion agreement to buy Time Warner Cable Inc. TWC +1.38% , a merger that would create a huge broadband Internet provider and which forced executives across the telecommunications and technology industries to develop strategies for how to bulk up to compete.
Sprint Corp. S +1.33% , meanwhile, has continued forging ahead on a possible bid for smaller rival T-Mobile US Inc TMUS +2.39% .
Notably absent from the latest round of deal making is Charlie Ergen’s Dish Network Corp. DISH -0.78% , a satellite broadcaster, like DirecTV, but with its eyes on the wireless industry.
The AT&T deal kills two attractive options for Dish: an acquisition by AT&T and a merger with DirecTV. Many people on Wall Street thought a better deal for AT&T would have been to buy Dish, which has amassed valuable wireless airwaves, something carriers need to meet the growing demand from phones and tablets for streaming video and other data.
Now, Dish’s options have been severely trimmed. The government requires the company to begin putting its spectrum to use within the next few years, and Dish lacks a network or a partner with which to do that efficiently.
Eyes also are turning to Verizon Communications Inc. VZ +0.31% , which is bigger than AT&T in the wireless business but is still developing its video strategy. Verizon completed its $130 billion acquisition of U.K.-based Vodafone PLC’s 45% stake in their wireless joint venture this year, and the U.S. carrier said it is focused on integrating its wireless and wireline businesses and isn’t looking for major deals.
An expanded version of this article appears on WSJ.
My comments:
As a sub, I like the idea that Dish is staying like it is. I think Dish should wait to see what happens with this partnership. I do not always like the bundling aspect; sometimes it seems like it is more difficult to get rid of one service when you have multiple services with one provider. It could also work the other way around in that it may be difficult to get one service without another or more than just another service. However, I may be wrong from the business aspect. I do not know how customers will react. I noticed around here that Uverse really is not that great in terms of speed from friends and relatives who have it. Uverse actually is not available in our area according to the site even though we live close to them. We have local cable Internet that works better and faster. Sadly, after taking a Speedtest, the national grade was a D (33%) while the global grade was a C+ (55%). I can only imagine what their results would be...
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