Do you like getting annual pay raises at work how about promotions?

[bigjohnok]

If the answer is yes than this is why you see these rate increases.
Because Dish employees like getting annual pay raises and getting promoted.

Dish is one of the lowest providers for video services when compared against the other major providers. Now they have achieved this at a cost to employee morale, pay and benefits. I dont know if many of you are aware of this but Dish has been rated the worst company in the US to work for a few years which has resulted in technicians bringing unions. Dish is trying to stop that now by changing policies and their treatment of employees and Joe Clayton is leading the charge.

So basically if you want Dish to keep rates lower than the competition then let them run their company otherwise, if unions take hold nationwide, these yearly single digit price increases will jump into the double digits.

 

[Ronnie-]

Lower rates? Ive had both sat services and our local cable company. While the basic package rate may be slightly lower, with fees and charges the difference is negligible with one or the other being slightly higher depending on configuration.

This was true at one time. It is not really anymore.

 

[bigjohnok]

Lower rates? Ive had both sat services and our local cable company. While the basic package rate may be slightly lower, with fees and charges the difference is negligible with one or the other being slightly higher depending on configuration.

This was true at one time. It is not really anymore.

Everything increases in cost year after year all the equipment cabling etc that is being installed is not free. Even though the company buys in massive bulk quantities the companies that manufacturer these parts still will pass on increases in price to us which in turn is passed on.

Its basic business if you do not make a profit you do not stay in business.

Then there is the encroaching union threat no body wants one of these to get embedded in a company because once they do they are impossible to get rid of.

 

[tedb3rd]

I've been happy with Dish. If somebody working for Dish isn't happy, then QUIT and find a new job. Is there anything in the employee's contract that says they are not allowed to quit? I doubt it. Slavery has been illegal for at least a few years so I doubt any of them were grandfathered in.

 

[Scherrman]

I'm all for pay raises but you know that's not the reason for the price increases. I can't imagine that Dish's payroll has increased that much with all the turnover they have. The only employees there that would be receiving any significant raises would be officers there. Any of the low end employees that are getting raises are being canceled out by the employees that quit and are replaced by new low level employees.

Now, if all the employees were staying there for more than 5 years I could see a significant increase in Dish's payroll.

 

[bigjohnok]

I've been happy with Dish. If somebody working for Dish isn't happy, then QUIT and find a new job. Is there anything in the employee's contract that says they are not allowed to quit? I doubt it. Slavery has been illegal for at least a few years so I doubt any of them were grandfathered in.

you do realize that high turnover rates are costly also. this results having an inexperienced work force which results in increased training costs and crappy customer satisfaction because of rookie employees.

who would you want coming to do work at your home a technician with multiple years of experience or a tech just out of training with less than a years worth of experience?

 

[bigjohnok]

I'm all for pay raises but you know that's not the reason for the price increases. I can't imagine that Dish's payroll has increased that much with all the turnover they have. The only employees there that would be receiving any significant raises would be officers there. Any of the low end employees that are getting raises are being canceled out by the employees that quit and are replaced by new low level employees.

Now, if all the employees were staying there for more than 5 years I could see a significant increase in Dish's payroll.

Dish has regions that are unionizing and regions that already have certified unions in place if you arent aware of this.

 

[dare2be]

Pay raises by the MVPDs is a drop in the bucket and negligible compared to the real reason prices are skyrocketing...the content owners signing record exclusive deals and expecting to pass those costs on to the MVPD/consumer.

 

[dvrexpander]

Unions may be the best thing for field techs but beyond that I think $5 increases each year for each customer on average is a bit much. Had they just focused on $2 increases then you wouldn't see that much flack about it.

 

[dare2be]

Again, the labor costs and payroll of the MVPDs is not the issue here.

 

[bigjohnok]

Again, the labor costs and payroll of the MVPDs is not the issue here.

to install a single 722 system its around $600
to install a 3 room hopper system that number jumps to around $1500.

 

[lparsons21]

Not that I care, but those numbers seem out of whack.

More like a number an accountant would make up...

 

[satjay]

In regard to raises, I would love to see folks get raises, while this may not cover everyone, speaking for myself raises have been not really happening this past few years with budget cuts and all

 

[bigjohnok]

Not that I care, but those numbers seem out of whack.

More like a number an accountant would make up...

it includes not only parts installed but pay and benefits(not just the tech but all the behind the scene people like hr and the management chain), fuel costs,vehicle maintenance, training, plus all those free credits that are given away at sign up and across the length of time the account is active also included in this cost is all the customers that do not pay their bills which the company has to end up eating the loss.

then there is all the factories that are building the equipment plus logistic costs to getting that equipment from the factory into a the hands of the tech.

this adds up rather quickly.

 

[Juan]

The only real factor in price increases are programming costs

 

[bellevuecoug]

Every time we have a price increase . . . or a dispute . . . or channels going dark . . . we have a handful of posters on this board who rally to Charlie's defense - giving "reasons" while we should feel good about all Dish does for us and why we should be understanding about the latest blackout or why we should be happy to hand over more of our hard-earned money . . .

It is as predictable as the sunrise.

Sometimes I wonder if Dish has a handful of employees hiding under these handles to spread Charlie-friendly propaganda.

Let me just say this - all TV providers are essentially evil profiteers. That being said, if you like live sports, you gotta sleep with the devil . . . and I will never go back to Comcast again no matter what. But let's not pretend Dish, Direct, or anyone else are out for anything other than our money.

 

[bigjohnok]

Every time we have a price increase . . . or a dispute . . . or channels going dark . . . we have a handful of posters on this board who rally to Charlie's defense - giving "reasons" while we should feel good about all Dish does for us and why we should be understanding about the latest blackout or why we should be happy to hand over more of our hard-earned money . . .

It is as predictable as the sunrise.

Sometimes I wonder if Dish has a handful of employees hiding under these handles to spread Charlie-friendly propaganda.

Let me just say this - all TV providers are essentially evil profiteers. That being said, if you like live sports, you gotta sleep with the devil . . . and I will never go back to Comcast again no matter what. But let's not pretend Dish, Direct, or anyone else are out for anything other than our money.

Oh dont include me in the Charlie fan crowd. many posters here will and can attest to that.
I am just pointing out reality, unless you do no shopping whats so ever you would know that the price of everything goes up year after year.

 

[Scherrman]

$1500 seems a bit extreme but I do admit that a Hopper system can be a very costly install. The equipment is expensive and there is more labor involved so it can really add up but I would think it's closer to $1000.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

If you look at their SEC filings, payroll is a small piece of the pie.

 

[ChadT41]

I agree with almost every post on here... As weird as that sounds. Payroll may be a small price of the pie, and same with the credits given to customers, and other things. How many small peices of that same pie, does it take to become a significant price of the pie, when added together? Let's agree, price increases are coming, well, because of all of the expenses added up, and to still make a profit after that. Employees need payed, equipment needs new software designs, customers need to be rocked to sleep(figuratively), channels have increases with new contracts, channels have costs increases annualy, PR, HR, lawsuits, etc. these are just the few that are at the top of my head. One that most people do not know about, is all coaches and managers from both Echostar and Dish, had to be trained again, for a more precise leadership. They are basically, now, receiving training for leadership positions. Before, it was just whoever was thought to be the best.