New CANADIAN law, how will it effect Dish Network

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TV a la cart is Coming to Canada in 2016

The code will take effect by September, 2015.

"consumer welfare destroying death spiral" lol, got to love it when the big guys are spinning.



Bibb is obviously in the loop on what the cable industry is preparing to do, as TV a la carte is coming to Canada by the end of 2016. And if Canada is going that way, then you know the U.S. cable companies will be announcing a similar move in and around the same time frame. Canada gets most of their programming from the U.S., so the announcement is just a sign of what's in the pipeline.



The new Skinny basic will look like this: By March of 2016, every TV provider will be forced to offer a smaller basic TV package capped at $25 per month. It must include all local and regional stations, public interest channels such as the Aboriginal Peoples Television Network (APTN), education and community channels, plus provincial legislature networks. If distributors want to, they can add national over-the-air stations like CTV, City and Global, or U.S. networks ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and PBS. But they cannot raise the price.



The new Pick-and-Pay service will look like this: The actual unravelling of channels will happen in two phases. Starting in March, 2016, every channel outside the "skinny" basic service must be available either a-la-carte – with a fee for each network – or in small, "reasonably priced" packages. Those can either be build-you-own packages put together by viewers, or pre-assembled groups of five to 10 channels chosen by the distributor. By December of 2016, every channel must be available both as a standalone choice and in a small-sized bundle. Providers can still offer existing theme packs, such as sports or comedy stations.

Television viewers will be able to buy only the channels they want, one by one or in small packages, the federal broadcast regulator said Thursday. By the end of 2016, TV subscribers will have the option of adding those networks to a slimmed-down, "skinny" basic package costing no more than $25 per month.



But not everyone likes this, least of all Viacom. American firm Viacom has called pick-and-pay a"consumer welfare destroying death spiral," and told the Commission it would consider withdrawing from Canada – and perhaps returning with an online streaming service contributing no revenue or tax to Canada – if the CRTC's regulations became too burdensome. Expect to hear Viacom echo the same thing in the U.S. if a-la-cart is forced on them.



This is the latest in a series of rulings coming out of Let's Talk TV, a sweeping hearing the CRTC held last year to consider changes to the future of Canadian television, which put many of the TV industry's sacred cows on the table. You could read more about this here.



No matter how this plays out, it may the consumer that will finally get a break from their spiraling cable bills – even if Viacom kicks and screams blue murder. I've recently cancelled many of my TV tiers because I was simply fed up paying for garbage that I never watched.



Hopefully relief is on the way and just maybe Apple has a rabbit that they could pull out of their hat to make this next level for television viewing a lot more fun to look forward to.



When I look back at Tim Cook's beaming face talking about the future of television back in December 2013 with NBC's Brian Williams, I'm more confident than ever that what Apple has in store for TV in the future goes far beyond the myopic narrative of today surrounding video bundles. Yes, it's time once again to Think Different.

All bets are on Apple to have a killer TV service out soon with ESPN included, disruption from every angle.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2015/03/with-tv-à-la-carte-just-around-the-corner-is-apples-entry-into-the-online-video-distribution-business-too-little-too-late.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc/article23541572/

Ken Engelhart, vice-president of regulatory affairs at Rogers Communications Inc got it right in the quote below.

“A lot of millennials are cutting the cord anyway. So offering them a small basic and then à la carte may be less revenue than people are paying today, but it’s better than them cutting the cord altogether,” he said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-crtc-pick-and-pay-tv-ruling/article23547784/
 
I subscribed to HBO just to watch Game of Thrones. As soon as the season finale was done I dropped HBO. (Dish Network)
There are a lot of shows, series that I like but otherwise there is nothing on the channel that I would watch.
I can totally see myself adding a channel for a season to watch something then dropping it as soon as it's done.
If I did it like that I could really keep costs down. But I'll bet they'll have some sort of penalty, some way to punish you for trying to do this very thing.
 
No more programming blackouts! Amazing

will not allow blackouts during carriage disputes between programmers and distributors.

The CRTC also created a code of conduct for programming negotiations between broadcasters and TV providers that says channels "cannot be unduly withdrawn from subscribers as a result of a commercial dispute at the wholesale level."

It will also require that independently-owned channels be offered in at least one -pre-assembled package. This will make a really really nice game changing channel pack!

http://www.multichannel.com/news/technology/canada-going-la-carte/388994
 
I subscribed to HBO just to watch Game of Thrones. As soon as the season finale was done I dropped HBO. (Dish Network)
There are a lot of shows, series that I like but otherwise there is nothing on the channel that I would watch.
I can totally see myself adding a channel for a season to watch something then dropping it as soon as it's done.
If I did it like that I could really keep costs down. But I'll bet they'll have some sort of penalty, some way to punish you for trying to do this very thing.
The new model that Dish Network is using with their Sling TV service will be the new standard that all carriers will have to match or face loosing customers. You can subscribe for a month, then drop it, resubsrcibe a month later and on and on with no penalties. This will trickle down to the a la carte channel offerings also. Football fans are getting ready to start Sling service for the upcoming season then drop it at seasons end. Same with Basketball, Baseball etc. etc. fans.

The carriers are having to cater to the subscriber now that competition has reentered the market.
 
How quickly they forget when the Canadians were starting to roll out mini channel packages they said NO Way, Never in the U.S., well, well what do you know, now we have mini channel packs popping up from most carriers right here in the good ole U.S. of A.,

TV a la carte is coming to Canada by the end of 2016. And if Canada is going that way, then you know the U.S. cable companies will be announcing a similar move in and around the same time frame. Canada gets most of their programming from the U.S., so the announcement is just a sign of what's in the pipeline

Ergen also said that the pay TV world will eventually go a la carte, either because one of the big cable or satellite providers will break the model, or because the industry will be shaken up by outside providers like Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon. “Today, a lot of customers could live with Netflix and an over-the-air antenna and YouTube and they could be happy,” he said.

Ergen also reiterated his position that a la carte programming would be better for consumers, as well as the industry itself. “We are still for a la carte, because the Internet is a la carte today,” he said. People could just watch Netflix, or even pirate content online, and service providers would have to compete with this new reality. “A lot of customers can live with Netflix and an… antenna, and YouTube… and they’d be pretty happy,” he said.

“You have two choices: You can fight change or you can embrace change,” Ergen said. “It’s less risky long term to embrace change. You can either lead and make the rules, or be a fast follower, or you can be a slow follower and pay more.”

http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/11/ergen-doesnt-want-to-kill-ads/
 
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I look forward to this change making it's way to the U.S. A. . What it proves for, Canada is that their congress isn't bought off by corporate special interests like our congress is. The Canadian government still works for the vast numbers of their citizens.
 
I look forward to this change making it's way to the U.S. A. . What it proves for, Canada is that their congress isn't bought off by corporate special interests like our congress is. The Canadian government still works for the vast numbers of their citizens.

Canada doesn't have a congress.:wink They have an elected House of Commons and an un-elected Senate.:canada
 
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The most hilarious comment from an industry spokesperson I heard was the remark that ala-carte would force numerous channels out of business, like that was a bad thing. If nothing else ala-carte will certainly clean up the gene pool. Much, if not most, of the garbage will disappear. Ala-carte worked perfectly in the C-band BUD days and it can work today. The complaint from the industry that ala-carte will drive prices up is bogus. Channels will have to compete for your business and that always drives prices down not up. If, for instance, channel X doesn't get enough subscribers to stay a viable offering then the carrier can either hardball for a better deal or drop them with no significant impact of their offerings. Carriers will get a much more realistic view of who is worth carrying and who isn't based on the number of subscriptions (actual viewers) for any particular channel. Where it will get real hairy is when channels can no longer fudge their viewer numbers based on the number of total carrier subscribers but will have to present their own actual individual subscriber numbers to potential advertisers. That could be a huge comedown for some, with a significant drop in advertising revenues. It most certainly will be interesting to watch, especially early on.
 
Canada doesn't have a congress.:wink They have an elected House of Commons and an un-elected Senate.:canada
This is exactly the way our nations founders set up our government, with an elected house and an unelected (appointed) senate. However, when Senators became subject to election, the problems began. As is usually the case, nobody noticed the ramifications back then.
 
This is exactly the way our nations founders set up our government, with an elected house and an unelected (appointed) senate. However, when Senators became subject to election, the problems began. As is usually the case, nobody noticed the ramifications back then.
I believe but I am not positive, I think the Parliament of each Province chooses that province's Senators, similar in fashion to how our State legislatures did it prior to 1913 and the 17th Amendment.
 
Reading the headline I thought DISH was going to be able to legally broadcast to Canada. Since that isn't the case, this is in the Dish Network forum because??????????????
 
Charlie knows all to well that most companies that give it's customers what they want rarely fail.

What do American viewers want?
Jean-Pierre Blais, head of the government's Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, said the decision to switch to a la carte programming "reflects what we have heard from Canadians."

"They told us bundles offered by cable and satellite companies were large, unwieldy and expensive," he said. "They expressed frustration that to access a particular channel, they had to pay for a station they did not want."

What do Americans want?
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus-20150327-column.html

All four of the major networks were included in a majority of respondents’ a la carte pickings, with ABC (66.7%) leading the way.
https://consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/digitalsmithschart.png

Just a start, It's coming
Comcast is following the leader (Dish) into the changing TV market
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/13/comcast-stream-web-based-add-on-service-internet

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/15/so...la-carte-tv-service-with-the-playstation-vue/
 
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Canada doesn't have a congress.:wink They have an elected House of Commons and an un-elected Senate.:canada
I stand corrected . But the fact is that they are more responsive to the consumers in their country than our congress has been to us. Our congress is sold out to the highest big money bidders now days.
 
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