Hopper 3 4k channels

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The "other guys" (DTV*) seem to be ahead of Dish in the 4k content including live content). What gives?

When Dish is going to have a 4k live channel?
 
The "other guys" (DTV*) seem to be ahead of Dish in the 4k content including live content). What gives?

When Dish is going to have a 4k live channel?
Good morning there is a new bird in the sky that will be broadcasting channels in 4k so patence grasshopper.
 
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Dish needs to stop worrying about 4K content and start putting up more HD content. This is ridiculous.
i agree with you that dish needs to finally getting the rest of the channels in hd also,there are about 40 to 42 channels that need to be added in hd,dish might as well work on getting 4k channels up for those like me who have a 4ktv. and the hopper 3
 
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But will they downrez it like the do with their HD channels now to conserve bandwidth?
Probably as much as DIRECTV does with their 4K.

I was reading a few weeks ago, that the pure signal was something like 2 Gbs in size, and it is compressed down to just about 60 Mbs for DIRECTV. And we both know how GOOD the DIRECTV 4K looks like.... I wonder how it looked before they squeeze it down?
 
Probably as much as DIRECTV does with their 4K.

I was reading a few weeks ago, that the pure signal was something like 2 Gbs in size, and it is compressed down to just about 60 Mbs for DIRECTV. And we both know how GOOD the DIRECTV 4K looks like.... I wonder how it looked before they squeeze it down?
So Dish will be able to 60Mbs on one transponder or will need todo bonding like DIRECTV does for their live 4K channels?
 
Not sure, but I know they were looking at bonding before I heard about DIRECTV doing it. But I haven't seen it in action myself... yet. :)
 
4K is just going to go the way of 3D.


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No it's here to stay no question, partly because HDR is going to be desirable. I was among those that said from the begining 3D was not going to be viable, and nothing like going from SD to HD. HD was an advancement for all programming 3D is not. 4K with HDR when implemented to it's fullest will be an advancement for all programming. And it will be more readily available when ATSC 3.0 is implemented.
 
No it's here to stay no question, partly because HDR is going to be desirable. I was among those that said from the begining 3D was not going to be viable, and nothing like going from SD to HD. HD was an advancement for all programming 3D is not. 4K with HDR when implemented to it's fullest will be an advancement for all programming. And it will be more readily available when ATSC 3.0 is implemented.
Does HDR have a resolution standard? I thought it was contrast and 10 bit color.

Point being HDR would be just fine in HD.

I think Sony is doing a 1080p HDR phone.
 
Does HDR have a resolution standard? I thought it was contrast and 10 bit color.

Point being HDR would be just fine in HD.

I think Sony is doing a 1080p HDR phone.
That's a part of what I am saying. 4K will be around at least partly because of HDR, no one is going to do HDR for a 1080P TV now it will be on 4K. Is anyone making a 1080 TV in 2017? If it is possible to do with 1080P why do it? 4K is a passive improvement, who is going say I don't want 4K when it's time for a new set? Price just like it always happens, like it did with HD and already has will drop. Don't forget the other part of my post ATSC 3.0 will allow for higher resolution.
BTW in my opinion so far 4K isn't much of an improvement minus HDR. I bet 75% more or or less people sit too far from their TV if they have a 4K TV to see the difference over 1080. In fact I bet some high percentage sit too far to see 1080 over 720. 4K clips meant to show off the technology do look better but in actual use in movies and streaming TV shows I have watched it has a minimal improvement.
 
That's a part of what I am saying. 4K will be around at least partly because of HDR, no one is going to do HDR for a 1080P TV now it will be on 4K. Is anyone making a 1080 TV in 2017? If it is possible to do with 1080P why do it? 4K is a passive improvement, who is going say I don't want 4K when it's time for a new set? Price just like it always happens, like it did with HD and already has will drop. Don't forget the other part of my post ATSC 3.0 will allow for higher resolution.
BTW in my opinion so far 4K isn't much of an improvement minus HDR. I bet 75% more or or less people sit too far from their TV if they have a 4K TV to see the difference over 1080. In fact I bet some high percentage sit too far to see 1080 over 720. 4K clips meant to show off the technology do look better but in actual use in movies and streaming TV shows I have watched it has a minimal improvement.
Well despite the fact I can find no technical tie between HDR and 4K it sure looks like manufacturer's are making your opinion a valid one.
 
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Yeah, it was weird to see a Directv commercial that offered UFC 200 in 4K. It's $10 more than HD which is $10 more than SD. $70 for 4k, $60 for HD, $50 for SD.
 
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