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Yes, maybe 1 event a year at most, I watch ESPN it's so memorable that I don't even remember the event? I think they should sell ESPN separately. Not worth $1.00 a month, imo.
 
Yes, maybe 1 event a year at most, I watch ESPN it's so memorable that I don't even remember the event? I think they should sell ESPN separately. Not worth $1.00 a month, imo.

The problem is ESPN won’t allow that to happen.

If they are not in a base package they are pretty much out of business.

Like I said the only place where I watch ESPN is at a bar. A matter of fact I’m at a bar right now having lunch and they have ESPN.
 
ESPN has locked up almost all of the college bowl games, which has cost them a lot of money, so they have to demand more money to pay for all their sports broadcast. I hope they go bankrupt. Stop watching ESPN.
Also saw on one of the bowl games I was watching that the ACC is coming out with their own network next year.
 
Also saw on one of the bowl games I was watching that the ACC is coming out with their own network next year.

That's the big thing now. Recently, Missouri was playing some college in Iowa and the local cableco had monetized their little in-house sports network to where you could pay $6 for 24-hour access to watch the game. SEC network wasn't carrying it so we paid it.
 
To all that do not want it. Dish does offer the flex package and you do not have to add ESPN to it

Yes, but there are other channels which I do want and can't get on the flex package. So, I have to pay for ESPN to get the others that I want.
 
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ESPN has locked up almost all of the college bowl games, which has cost them a lot of money, so they have to demand more money to pay for all their sports broadcast. I hope they go bankrupt. Stop watching ESPN.
We can stop watching ESPN, but we'll be paying for it nonetheless. As Claude said, if they're not in the base package, they're out of business.
 
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Anyone have any recent ESPN viewership numbers, that may justify their price? Obviously it has to be great enough that it has not been removed from anyone yet.
 
Anyone have any recent ESPN viewership numbers, that may justify their price? Obviously it has to be great enough that it has not been removed from anyone yet.

I think the numbers are inflated and it’s a game of chicken.

Which provider pulls ESPN first.

I can see Charlie pulling it and nobody giving a dam.

Directv has got a little bigger problem as it’s needed for commercial accounts.
 
It must not be outdated if they can charge over $8 for it. I only watch Monday Night Football on it, but I know people who live on that channel.
Actually, ESPN is SINKING Disney's stock and has become a financial burden for Disney. ESPN is not the Golden Goose it once was. Please research on the internet about this. ESPN is Bob Iger's bane and living hell. Fortunately, for dear Bob, the recent acquisition of most of Fox has been greatly positive news and assures them of not having ESPN's significant drop in value and INCOME completely blow up in Disney's face. Yeah, I know a LOT of sports fans who no longer need ESPN all that much, but for the really big games, and certainly not for scores and news and info.

FWIW, I also believe that the always rising, high cost to acquire the rights to these games by ESPN, et al. is also reaching--or has reached--the point of diminishing returns (certainly in ESPN's case), just like cable or Satellite TV became too expensive and people either downgraded or left the MVPD universe for OTA and/or VirtualMVPD on the internet. At some point, paying all that money for the rights to the games just becomes too expensive and leads to LOSS of revenue and profit, especially with the cheap apps the leagues allow anyone for a few bucks to watch those very same games.
 
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I think the numbers are inflated and it’s a game of chicken.

Which provider pulls ESPN first.

I can see Charlie pulling it and nobody giving a dam.

Directv has got a little bigger problem as it’s needed for commercial accounts.
Actually, its the Regional Sports channels that have the fewer viewer and are still expensive. Charlie has stated publicly many times "someone is gonna go without Regionals . . . we were prepared to do it, but came to a [decent] deal." For now, losing ESPN would be too much of a loss/hit, but I can see more Regionals being dropped by Dish, perhaps one by one or two or three by three. No doubt, come in a few years when retransmission deals expire, someone may actually drop ESPN, at least for a short period. It will be an interesting thing to see.
 
Wait till the streaming gets bad enough providers refuse to carry ESPN. It will eventually put them out of business
Oh, yes, the same mess is being re-created with the streaming VirtualMVPD's. It's already back to "packages" and at the current prices, not a one of the VMVPD's is making any money, yet. But the world changes much faster than it used to, so the VMVPD may never get to a point when they can make a profit, especially with the content owners finally deciding they want their own streaming service for their own content, and Bob Iger's Disney/Fox model streaming service is gonna set the standard for all of us having to pay each studio's streaming service to watch anything. I think Netflix will be one of those stories of a company so HIGH and valuable, only to be near death in some 3-4 years, and their Original content AINT gonna help Netflix all that much (that OLD TV show Friends is one of Netflix's most popular offerings), especially as EXPENSIVE that original contents costs to produce.
 
Actually, its the Regional Sports channels that have the fewer viewer and are still expensive. Charlie has stated publicly many times "someone is gonna go without Regionals . . . we were prepared to do it, but came to a [decent] deal." For now, losing ESPN would be too much of a loss/hit, but I can see more Regionals being dropped by Dish, perhaps one by one or two or three by three. No doubt, come in a few years when retransmission deals expire, someone may actually drop ESPN, at least for a short period. It will be an interesting thing to see.

There are a lot of compromises I'm willing to make when it comes to TV, but losing my RSN is not one of them. I have to be able to watch my Cardinals games. If Dish flushes FSM, I'll just get MLB.tv

I like it better anyway.
 
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There are a lot of compromises I'm willing to make when it comes to TV, but losing my RSN is not one of them. I have to be able to watch my Cardinals games. If Dish flushes FSM, I'll just get MLB.tv

I like it better anyway.
The only thing I don't like about MLB. TV is they show too many Yankees and Red Sox games.(at least in my area, Mobile-Pensacola).
 

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