40% off Orby TV receivers and DVRs at Best Buy - 11/21 - 11/23

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40% off Orby TV receivers and DVRs at Best Buy from 11/21 through 11/23.

At this point, why would anyone not buy their hardware on sale.
 
I have just about had it with this Bullsh!t from Best Buy.

They are selling the equipment cheaper than what the dealers can get it for from ORBY directly.

I’m not in business to compete with Best Buy. Obviously they got some better deal worked out with them.

I got about $2500 in orby inventory. Once the sale is over, I’m dumping it and that’s it.

They just took the lease option away from us yesterday also.
 
I have just about had it with this Bullsh!t from Best Buy.

They are selling the equipment cheaper than what the dealers can get it for from ORBY directly.

I’m not in business to compete with Best Buy. Obviously they got some better deal worked out with them.

I got about $2500 in orby inventory. Once the sale is over, I’m dumping it and that’s it.

They just took the lease option away from us yesterday also.
BB might be selling at a loss just to get rid of excess inventory. Or discourage competitors -- who knows.

I agree with you that it makes no sense to be an Orby dealer.

Aside from that, I really wish it would make sense for me to become an Orby subscriber. But around $200 for a DVR plus dish upfront cost and $40 a month for only a few channels I care about, plus a $10 DVR fee --- no thanks.
 
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BB might be selling at a loss just to get rid of excess inventory. Or discourage competitors -- who knows.

I agree with you that it makes no sense to be an Orby dealer.

Aside from that, I really wish it would make sense for me to become an Orby subscriber. But around $200 for a DVR plus dish upfront cost and $40 a month for only a few channels I care about, plus a $10 DVR fee --- no thanks.

I doubt Worst Buy is taking a loss on it, or they would have blown through it months ago.

I think all of these stores operate on a margin on the equipment. Meaning they buy it for A and sell it for B. There are no commissions, no residuals, no back end payments.

Considering they are selling for 50% I could probably imagine they likely pay $30 for a single receiver and $80 for a DVR.

Orby either needs to open the same pricing to retailers, or set a minimum set price.

I can’t make a profit making $30 on basic receivers, and $60 on a DVR with $100 on an install.

My installer gets $100 plus $25 per room. If I did a 4 room setup I make a whopping $50
 
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I doubt Worst Buy is taking a loss on it, or they would have blown through it months ago.

I think all of these stores operate on a margin on the equipment. Meaning they buy it for A and sell it for B. There are no commissions, no residuals, no back end payments.

Considering they are selling for 50% I could probably imagine they likely pay $30 for a single receiver and $80 for a DVR.

Orby either needs to open the same pricing to retailers, or set a minimum set price.

I can’t make a profit making $30 on basic receivers, and $60 on a DVR with $100 on an install.

My installer gets $100 plus $25 per room. If I did a 4 room setup I make a whopping $50
Looks like their business model is volume

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Looks like their business model is volume

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Apparently it is.

But keep in mind it was the same way with Directv and Dish in the early days. Radio Shack, Sears, Costco, Circuit City and Walmart all had deals in place to sell Directv and Dish hardware.

As soon as the free equipment and lease offers took over the market place, all of these stores pretty much stopped selling the product as it required a sales person to go over the packages, do the credit check, and configure the package.

Even Voom started out the same exact way with Sears, and eventually went to a free free free model.

Unfortunately the model Orby that is using, which is high equipment and low programming costs does not work.

Just like when Dish started offering DVR’s with no fees, very few people took advantage of it until they started offering FREE DVR with a monthly fee to use it.

When Orby does the same, Best Buy will go away for good.
 
Apparently it is.

But keep in mind it was the same way with Directv and Dish in the early days. Radio Shack, Sears, Costco, Circuit City and Walmart all had deals in place to sell Directv and Dish hardware.

As soon as the free equipment and lease offers took over the market place, all of these stores pretty much stopped selling the product as it required a sales person to go over the packages, do the credit check, and configure the package.

Even Voom started out the same exact way with Sears, and eventually went to a free free free model.

Unfortunately the model Orby that is using, which is high equipment and low programming costs does not work.

Just like when Dish started offering DVR’s with no fees, very few people took advantage of it until they started offering FREE DVR with a monthly fee to use it.

When Orby does the same, Best Buy will go away for good.
I believe your right

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Orby will likely add channels and more sophisticated equipment and just turn into another DirecTV losing sight of low cost.

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Question:

If you buy an Orby DVR and get the $40 per month package, do they still charge you $10 extra per month just because you have a DVR? Or does the $10 extra only apply if you rent the receiver from Orby?
 
^^^^ Did some more searching and I think I found the answer. If I buy the DVR then it is only $4 per month more to have the DVR when I subscribe to the basic package, for a total of $44 a month, correct?
 
^^^^ Did some more searching and I think I found the answer. If I buy the DVR then it is only $4 per month more to have the DVR when I subscribe to the basic package, for a total of $44 a month, correct?

Correct, only $4 additional for DVR service (up to 4 receivers) with service.


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Since a DVR records locally on your own receiver on either a hard drive or internal memory card of some sort, why is there a charge for the DVR to work?
As an example my HDVR3500 free to air receiver will record with no external support from a provider.
I know all the providers charge a dvr fee.
I always figured it was just a revenue source to control the subscriber's ability to turn and off their recording capability.

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Apparently it is.

But keep in mind it was the same way with Directv and Dish in the early days. Radio Shack, Sears, Costco, Circuit City and Walmart all had deals in place to sell Directv and Dish hardware.

As soon as the free equipment and lease offers took over the market place, all of these stores pretty much stopped selling the product as it required a sales person to go over the packages, do the credit check, and configure the package.

Even Voom started out the same exact way with Sears, and eventually went to a free free free model.

Unfortunately the model Orby that is using, which is high equipment and low programming costs does not work.

Just like when Dish started offering DVR’s with no fees, very few people took advantage of it until they started offering FREE DVR with a monthly fee to use it.

When Orby does the same, Best Buy will go away for good.

Yes all good points in ever post but they need to find way to get new customers and grow after all many of the avg blue collar folk can't afford shell out $1000 in equipment and installment fee so a 2 year lease offers is there best option to even bring in lower incoming folks in to picture as well.
My guest is to why there sell them off so cheap is because of end of year sale to get rid of much inventory as possible which every major retailer dose this in Nov thru Dec.
It possible the Orby TV may also has new hardware equipment come out after 1st of year that is far better then previous generation.
Also the from what I have reading DVR was only a dual tuner for ATSC and two for Satellite make kind of used less in real world whole home environment unless this person set up there own PC DVR server.

Can any one tell me that the ethernet is used for
 
Wow! What kind of Orby system are you proposing to install for $1000? I have spent $100 on mine. :)

The ethernet port is not used.
That only just an example estimate
That only one box and you probably install it your self and had a dish for it

TV Service with DVR Service $44/$54
1x Orby TV DVR $200.00
3x Orby TV Receiver $300.00
1x Signal Meter $20.00
1x Self Installation Kit $70.00
1x Installation Accessories (coaxial cable quad shield, connectors, weather boots, grounding rod, tools) around $100
2x Eagle Aspen 2 way and 4 way splitter $20
Grand Total + 754 or 764

The antenna you get is very short range only good for maybe 25 miles so you may need to factor a real long range directional outdoor antenna that good for 75+ miles and on 20" pole that add up to another $150/200 depend on good of antenna you get and other accessories you may need.
And from what I heard the dish they sent is not hot and rumor are true that 40" or bigger dish is better way go so that at lease $125/$150 with right LNB off ebay.
 
I suggest that a user such as you suggest is not their target customer. LOL!

I have an Orby dish and it provides good gain as the TPs are quite hot. Never have come close to losing signal with a 5-7dB SNR link margin in Northern CA. I have a spare 90cm dish, so that is the only reason I use a larger reflector with the RV.