My wife is furious about the blockage of signal to KARE11 (NBC). I wonder how DIRECT TV handled the fee increase. Does anyone know?
Does Anyone Know how DirectTV responded the the TEGNA price increase?
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TV standoff ends: AT&T and Tegna reach deal bringing channels back to DirecTV in 51 markets across US
TV standoff ends: AT&T and Tegna reach deal bringing channels back to DirecTV in 51 markets across US
AT&T reached a deal with broadcaster Tegna to bring its 64 stations back to the DirecTV satellite TV service after a two-week dispute.
www.usatoday.com
Yes a price increase to the consumer. Anytime these disputes ends you can bet your bill will be higher when your contract is up. I can see modest increases because of other things but just to give in to these a**holes just isn't right.
Except no one is "just giving in". It's negotiations. Tegna (any owner) doesn't get as much as they ask for and Dish (any MVPD) gives more than they wanted. All the press releases (from both sides) is nothing more than "spin" to try to get folks on their side. Dish has had how many blackouts over the last 4-5 years? And our bills have gone up ~$5/year. How much of that is inflation, how much is the new retrans rates, and how much is for Dish profit?
And how much is for the annual increases that are typically included in the retrans agreements?
I'm not doubting your word, but how do you know this? Is this information publicly available? I thought the terms of the negotiations were kept secret.
They are. I wish these company would publish they're annual earnings publicly. I guess I need to be a shareholder in these companies to see that.
TEGNA's financials are not hard find:
TEGNA Financial Statements 2009-2023 | TGNA
Ten years of annual and quarterly financial statements and annual report data for TEGNA (TGNA). Income statements, balance sheets, cash flow statements and key ratios.
www.macrotrends.net
TEGNA Inc. - 2020 Annual Report
That's the nature of "negotiations", each side gives up as little as it can until both parties meet somewhere in the middle with neither party happy abut it. In this situation though, Dish has less to lose than Tegna, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that the "middle" favors Dish a bit more than Tegna. Dish is saving money during the outage while Tegna is losing money, and Dish knows that historically they'll lose relatively few subscribers before a settlement is reached.
That may be your understanding of how negotiations work, and it's a nice ideal. As someone who was involved in business and labor negotiations for many years, I can tell you that it doesn't always work that well. My experience is/was that whichever side had the upper hand both from a PR and financial leverage standpoint usually ended up getting their way. Very few times have I seen a true compromise result from negotiations.
That being said, I have no idea how it works with these particular companies, since everything is so secretive.
Then we can expect Dish to do pretty well...
Dish has the financial leverage in this case, so less to lose than Tegna.I can't get "No Respect".
My guess is that Tegna saw the warnings from Sinclair a few months ago and thought "Oh, me to please.", and thought Dish would give in since nothing certain has been announced on that deal, and they would probably want to avoid two possible blackouts of that magnitude. Only reason I think that is because the channels went down in like, 24 hours after the initial announcement? That seems rather aggressive to me (Although I don't know much on Tegna's business tactics so who knows).
Tegna couldn't take the channels down until the then current contract expired. My guess would be that both sides thought they were close to an agreement, but something fell apart at the last minute.
Who cares, I don't subscribe to locals anymore, if Dish reaches a settlement with TENGA &/or Sinclair and my rates go up because of it, or because of increases in Channels I don't watch, I will cancel and just use online streaming.
Increasing locals retrans rates should only affect the locals subscriber fee. Actually, you're part of the reason Dish has an edge with Tegna in their negotiations. Tegna owns one or more stations in just 51 of the 210 DMA's. Dish has some percentage of each DMA's population as subscribers. From that number, subtract those like yourself that do not subscribe to the locals, and then subtract those that can watch the removed Tegna channel(s) from alternate sources such as OTA or streaming. And next, subtract those that don't watch the Tegna channels enough to even miss them, and those that simply switch to a different local channel for news, weather, etc, and what's left are the subscribers that might consider changing providers if they become sufficiently motivated to actually do it. Dish knows from experience approximately what percentage of that last group will actually switch if the outage lasts long enough, and can base their negotiations on how willing they are to risk those losses.
Aren't you forgetting those in rural areas and those poor farmers that need their locals that Dish provides.
Do they need every local channel in their market all the time? And some percentage of them are in OTA range, while others have streaming capability from various Internet sources like cell or satellite if cable or DSL isn't available. I'm sure some percentage of them fall into the "could lose them" category, but certainly not all of them.
