I'm on the fence about getting the hopper+!!! sounds like i should get one now. we have been getting our feet wet with the joey 4 we love it it has amazing PQ over the 4k joey. the PQ is brighter and sharper. some say it's not a fast box but that has not been our exp ours has been blazing fast!!! i can watch youtubes in the bedroom and netflix now

. and the voice remotes work and not tell you some crazy sh*t like when i tell it to tune to espn and it kicks back that i am not subscribed to espn it changes over to it!!! if you resigned back up with dish youd'e be a new customer so you would get the wheels and deals

just a thought. and yes the joey 4 is very cool now maybe it's time to jump in and get the +

. i wonder if there would be any performance difference with the plus on a hopper 3 compared to a hopper with sling since the 3 is faster