EchoStar 25 @110W March 9/10 - 2026.

[MikeD-C05]

Compression.

Lots of mpeg 4 compression.

 

[MikeD-C05]

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And, while again unlikely they'll get them anytime soon, there are those last 3 x-ponders D* is sitting on doing absolutely nothing with!

Maybe Charlie plans on buying up Directv and the satellites transponders by this time next year and then he gets all the transponders to himself. DISH will be in a better place to buy it by then and probably even has the money to do it without financing , once his deals with Space X and ATT go through,

 

[navychop]

I understand there is a massive buggy whip factory up for sale, quite reasonably priced.

 

[rocatman]

This is going to be fascinating on how Dish is going to pull this off with the transponder space they have. I am assuming there is no way they will get their hands on the 11 transponders on 119 that are licensed to DirecTV. When they got rid of 129 the easy piece was to eliminate the SD duplicate channels and change all remaining SD channels to MPEG4.

Right now, Dish has the following:

119 (21 licensed transponders)
12 spotbeam transponders (TP 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 13)
9 CONUS transponders (TP 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21)
(transponders 22-32 are DirecTV)

110 (28 licensed transponders)
9 spotbeam transponders (TP 12, 18, 20, 23, 25, 26, 27, 29, 31)
19 CONUS transponders (TP 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 21, 22)
(transponders 28, 30, 32 are DirecTV)

You can see what I am thinking through. You can easily move the 12 spotbeam transponders to the 19 ConUS transponders. But if 110 is going to be all spotbeam, you have to move 19 ConUS to 12 slots on 119?

I mentioned in another thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if someday NBA League Pass, Center Ice, and Extra Innings go to a streaming only model, and the PPV's do that as well. Right now there are almost 5 full ConUS transponders used for that - 3 that are only used for the live sport events and 2 for the PPV movies and some other random channels. That would get you down to 14 transponders for 12 slots, and some other optimization would get it down.

Who has license to TP 24 at 110W ? I believe it is Dish but it is not in the list provided. Perhaps is reserving this as a spare or the satellites at 119W have a problem with TP 24.

 

[zippyfrog]

Who has license to TP 24 at 110W ? I believe it is Dish but it is not in the list provided. Perhaps is reserving this as a spare or the satellites at 119W have a problem with TP 24.

Dish has it. I might have just missed typing it.

And checking my post, I just missed typing it. Dish currently uses 110 TP 24 for PPV movies and the out of market sports packages (like MLB Extra Innings)

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[nelson61]

They have filed the EchoStar 25 launch and test schedule with FCC with a request for authorization beginning March 9, 2026.

 

[zippyfrog]

They have filed the EchoStar 25 launch and test schedule with FCC with a request for authorization beginning March 9, 2026.

I like how they are using the old 129 slot for testing purposes before it moves over to 110 permanently.

 

[nelson61]

Getting close !

 

[nelson61]

FCC filing: March 9 expected launch.

Some satellite shuffling needed to make space available at the slot. Application submitted to make very small move for EchoStar 11.

----As the Commission is aware, on or about March 9, 2026, EchoStar intends to launch EchoStar 25, a 32-transponder Direct Broadcast Satellite ("DBS") that will be added to the nominal 110º W.L. orbital location, which currently includes the EchoStar10, DirecTV 5, EchoStar11, and EchoStar 23 spacecraft-------

 

[telstar_1]

They're all in the same place?!?

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[nelson61]

Same is a relative word when at geo orbit elevation. Clustered might be a better description

 

[Bobby]

Same is a relative word when at geo orbit elevation. Clustered might be a better description

Yes! Think of it like this. Consider your home is the 110W location. Now maybe your home has 3 bedrooms, a kitchen, and a living room. Now, maybe there is a satellite in each of these rooms. All of them would carry the 110 location, or if you like your home address.

 

[telstar_1]

How do they not bump into each other

 

[charlesrshell]

How do they not bump into each other

Lane signal monitors!

 

[Foxbat]

How do they not bump into each other

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[Jim5506]

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How do they not bump into each other

The circumference of the geostationary orbit is about 165,000 miles, so each degree of space in that orbit is about 500 miles wide. Remember, they are at 22,236 miles up there. There is plenty of room, geo-stationary satellite groupings are spaced 5 degrees apart = 2,500 miles. All these satellites are considerably higher than the space station and all other orbital operations.

 

[telstar_1]

Yeah, but you got a half dozen at a single degree marker

 

[Bobby]

Yeah, but you got a half dozen at a single degree marker

Um, 6 satellites in an area 500 miles wide. Not to hard to keep from bumping.

 

[navychop]

 

[telstar_1]

Ok, then what about at low orbits, with all the stuff we're cramming in

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