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guys, do me a favor please? if you are going to post long paragraphs, how about putting space between them? it is so hard to read when its one long block of copy. thanks in advance.

Seconded. It seems a shame for someone to take the time to find and share all that valuable (and greatly appreciated) information only to have most people stop reading it simply because of missing carrage returns.

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guys, do me a favor please? if you are going to post long paragraphs, how about putting space between them? it is so hard to read when its one long block of copy. thanks in advance.
Even better would be a link to the original, well formatted source: here.
 
guys, do me a favor please? if you are going to post long paragraphs, how about putting space between them? it is so hard to read when its one long block of copy. thanks in advance.


went back in and made those edits - thanks for the advice - it does look much better now.:)
 
You are dead wrong on this.... you are confusing D* and E*. D* is the provider that doesn't broadcast any full rez HD.

yes yes - we know about D*, that is not what is being discussed

Here is where I got my info from (avsforums.com) and here is a quote - is this not accurate?

2 Years ago 10+ HD MPEG2 Channels Error Free 1920x1080i Video Bitrate 17Mb/s+

NOW ZERO HD MPEG2 CHANNELS ERROR FREE 1920X1080I VIDEO BITRATE.

MARCH 1, 2007 - 2 HD MPEG2 CHANNELS ERROR FREE 1920X1080i Video Bitrate

MARCH 24 2007 - 0 HD MPEG2 CHANNELS ERROR FREE 1920X1080i Video Bitrate

No, its a statement of FACT....E* HD R.I.P.

In the month of March, they

1) Replaced the mpeg encoders of HBO-HD which now have multiple errors per movie - but they have decided they could live with it.

2) Replaced the mpeg encoder of SHO-HD which has multiple errors per movie - but decided they could live with it

3) Reduced UniversalHD from a bitstarved MPEG2 to MPEG4 - and since the channel is bitstarved due to NBC adding ChillerSD to their distribution mux earlier this month, MPEG4 has less to work with and more errors than the MPEG2 version.

4) Reduced the resolution of Universal HD from 1920 to 1440.

5) Reduced A&EHD MPEG2 to MPEG4 - as the channel had nothing more than CSI reruns in HD, no one noticed.

6) Reduced the resolution of A&EHD from 1920 to 1440. Again, due to the lack of HD, no one noticed.

6 Major events this month - all leading to ZERO 1920x1080 MPEG2 error free 17+ Mb/s HD Channels on E* where there were at least 10 two years ago.


What's this all about then? Correct my error, thanks
 
Yes, a great product, I would love to have an opportunity to look at it in my area, especially the 15Mbps net speed, but its VERY, VERY limited as a major player (and that is only because of the tiny service area).
 
Damn it, where I live, we're going to be stuck with AT&T (was Hellsouth) and their crappy wannabe answer to FIOS. :(

I certainly would drop D* and my ISP in a heartbeat, just for the upload speed, screw the download speed! (ok not SCREW it, but u/l is more important) :)

It makes me sick seeing 6 meg down connections, stuck with a lousy 256k, or less, up.
 
HAHA thats what I have (6M dw/756k up)and I too need the U/L speed. At least 2M would be nice. I still wouldn't drop DirecTV because of all the sports needs for myself.
 
but very limited....

How so.....they have more hd channels than directv in better quality. When nesn hd is added I will have no complaints. And they most likely are adding several hd channels in the next few months before directv launches their new sat.

The sports packages are the only thing directv has that I would possibly want. However, while I am a football fan, I can see all my patriots games on local hd channels, and I really do not have the time or money to use sunday ticket just when I do not like an out of market game the local channels are showing before or after the pats.

For baseball, I am more than happy with mlb.tv on my media center pc. I might actually want extra innings if they offered more than 7-10 hd games per week.
 
Please just reread the thread... very, very limited areas of coverage and nearly no sports packages. So they are limited, but a great alternative for those that might happen to be served and need no sports pack or anything else they might not carry.
 
Please just reread the thread... very, very limited areas of coverage and nearly no sports packages. So they are limited, but a great alternative for those that might happen to be served and need no sports pack or anything else they might not carry.

I agree they are limited in terms of coverage, but I don't agree they are limited in programming, unless out of market sports is the only thing you watch.

But for a wired broadband service, I think they are expanding at a pretty good clip.
 
Well as I have said many, many times, although I am no fan of down-rezzing or HD-lite or anything like it (most are doing it now), something is better than nothing at all, and not offering the major sports packages at all (their most glaring omission programming wise), and not being available to the vast majority of people in the US, makes for a limited service; no ifs, ands or other qualifiers, no matter how great it might be.
 
How so.....they have more hd channels than directv in better quality. When nesn hd is added I will have no complaints. And they most likely are adding several hd channels in the next few months before directv launches their new sat.

The sports packages are the only thing directv has that I would possibly want. However, while I am a football fan, I can see all my patriots games on local hd channels, and I really do not have the time or money to use sunday ticket just when I do not like an out of market game the local channels are showing before or after the pats.

For baseball, I am more than happy with mlb.tv on my media center pc. I might actually want extra innings if they offered more than 7-10 hd games per week.


The following is not at attempt at supporting a particular argument, rather, just an attempt to clarify.

I _think_ what he was saying or, inferring, if you prefer (if you follow all the quotes that led up to him saying "but very limited"), is that FIOS is limited in _availability_, not performance or programming-wise, and that would hold true, compared to satellite and the others, very few markets have FIOS, and out of the ones that do, only some of _them_ have FIOSTv so far.

(oops, charper covered this, but what the hell ;))
 
Are you in the U-verse area and does that offer a similar FiOS net speed of high up & down?

Nope, my options are Concast, AT&T (no uverse yet, still same old Bellsouth dsl), and Earthlink.

Besides, uverse is nowhere near FIOS. the speeds uverse gives is already available from other providers.

uverse speeds, which btw, has not rolled out here yet:

* Express: Download speeds up to 1.5 Mbit/s; upload speeds up to 1 Mbit/s
* Pro: Download speeds up to 3 Mbit/s; upload speeds up to 1 Mbit/s
* Elite: Download speeds up to 6 Mbit/s; upload speeds up to 1 Mbit/s. (Bellsouth has 6 meg d/l on their existing DSL)

Uploads are improved (but it's nothing that existing DSL could not do), but this is hardly next gen stuff. :\
 
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Uverse is being installed in my town as we "speak". Unfortunately, no hd rsn's in this area! :( Deal killer!
 
yes yes - we know about D*, that is not what is being discussed

Last time I saw I counted the VOOMS were 1280X1080i and have been for a while. We all know the MPEG4 1080i's on E* are 1440X1080i, not 1920 but not 1280 either. The MPEG4 content I've seen looks very good IMHO. HDNet and HDNet Movies got downrezzed due to the free preview HD channel to 1440. HBO, SHO, DISC, the HD PPV streams are still 1920. I think the east and west coast network MPEG2 HD's are still 1920. Not much left but they are slowly taking a page out of D*'s uplink engineer's handbook everyday.

Then the big kicker you can't forget D* runs their SD at 480X480 when E* runs their SD at 544X480. Ouch!!
 
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