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Seriously losing in the core HD channels. One can see how far their numbers have sunk in this area on Official AVS National HD Channel Lineups - Cable/DBS/Fiber/IPTV - Updated 12/20/10! - AVS Forum I have friends on Dish or cable who now practically taunt me for not having BBCAmerica HD...

Quote---"I've never heard of ANY cable company with a good reputation for customer service." Well, now you have. We had Cox in Roanoke, VA and the LOCAL phone customer response time and service were actually quite good. I left Cox because then, then only had about 8 HD channels when Direct...

Pure idiocy and rankly unfair. 1. Cable is exempt 2. Every three years? They cite plumbing and electric is inspected ... and that this is not different. Then INSPECT everyone PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL every 3 YEARS, and see what outcry ya get. 3. $50 is onerous. $15 might have slipped by, but...

It's supposed to arrive Q3 of 09 ... not far off.

Don't forget, you may have to enter an additional zip code for the OTA tuner to check for the desired channel. Put a zip code in that's in the channel broadcast area.

When Direct is gaining customers and profits right and left, why should they try extra hard to put on new HD nationals? It doesn't seem to be impacting anything negatively. What is REALLY going to be weird is if they really do what they are indicating and are waiting until D12 ... NEXT YEAR to...

Harrisonburg is a completely different market (so we cannot get them). Roanoke/Lynchburg is one of the largest markets remaining without HD locals. E* has them lit up in test mode on sat, I think. It's too bad as Roanoke is a mountainous area, and many folks here are behind mountains such that...

And likely quiet for a good time longer. It HAS been very frustrating seeing other carriers leapfrogging D* in HD.

Contacting support about new national HDs (with a little frustration on the lack thereof with last big rollout), reply was --- Thanks again for writing. I understand your concern regarding this issue. We can't currently offer all of your channels in HD because our satellite capacity doesn't...

OTA receiver - sensitive? I am just about a new D* customer mainly for the new HD - but I need to know how sensitive the OTA tuner is? Does it do ok. Has anyone been able to compare it to anything else. My old VOOM unit does quite well ... better than my old E* 6000u HD receiver. But several...

Does that mean I'm going DARK here, with my 6000 receiver (+61.5)? I'm getting the "old" HD pack (some Voom, TNT, HDNets, etc.) a la carte for $15. As much as I want all of VOOM plus Univ. HD, etc. I refuse to have to have to jump from $15 to $40 plus lease fee for those few extra channels...

Yep. I have a 6000, and it is working perfectly in all ways.

To answer question to me... My bill with all charges, fees, is about $25. That is with HD pack, superstation pack, and VOOM channels. I CAN get 110/119, so I get TNT-HD etc, (which cable does not have yet).

You might do what I do ... just use the 61.5 dish for the VOOM channels, and get that from Dish a la carte, then use cable for your other HD and SD. That's assuming you have a decent cable service. Adelphia has a good setup in my part of VA, even has ESPN2! And my cable SD is far superior to...

You gotta be kidding. At least for some cable systems. I have had Dish and Adelphia, and I can tell you that at least here in this part of VA, for SD, cable is so much superior in picture quality. Hands down. I know there are terrible cable systems out there. So yes, the comparison can vary...

Many of us are "on the edge." If it weren't for TNT-HD and VOOM, I'd a been gone already. 1. If VOOM shows up elsewhere, E* is in trouble. Especially when it goes 21. Really especially if cable or Direct does 21 before E* because of lack of motion on this. 2. I would rather support a general...

Dish HD has generally been the best. VOOM was better until the latter days with the new harmonic compression. Actually, Adelphia (in VA) has pretty good HD, almost as good as Dish, in fact, almost imperceptible at times. I hope it stays that good when Comcast takes over.

Cannot get OTA here due to mountains (even though I am only 20 miles from transmitters). I will go to first provider which can give me locals in HD.

Yep, using the same antenna (Channel Master with pre-amp that VOOM put up), I can tell, the Dish OTA rec. is not as sensitive. I had to go back to using the VOOM unit as just the OTA receiver. Extra wires and hookup, but worth it here.

Yeah, the $5.99 fee is outragious. Especially since you STILL have to pay $30 for a service call. So, in a year, you pay $72 to save $70??? I typically have needed help once every 3 yrs. So, now it's $126 to save $70. I'm sure the bean counters at dish are slapping each others backs over this deal.

Well, the other of the "21" are coming, though we certainly hope we don't have to wait until MPEG-4 (late year, or next year!). Surely, there is room on that satellite for all of them. Maybe, just maybe they could slowly increment them up, adding them along the way, getting there throughout the...

You aren't getting NBC-HD because WSLS-10 refuses to let Adelphia have their signal. Even WDBJ-7, which was rather hard-nosed about specifications and requirements did end up coming to terms with Adelphia. And despite that NBC affiliates have worked things out with Adelphia everywhere else, the...

Last night I switched instantly between Discovery HD on cable (Adelphia) and on Dish, and Dish was better, definitely. And yes, some of the VOOM channels looked quite good.

Yea, well my catch is that my 6000 (returning to service) does not have as sensitive an OTA receiver as my old VOOM unit. I've lost my nearest NBC-HD channel. Does anyone know if the 811, 921, or 942 have a more sensitive OTA receiver?

Get this. Called to go back to Dish yesterday, and CSR tells me since I'm a prior customer I MAY NOT even subscribe to the VOOM package ($5). It is only available to NEW customers to Dish! I couldn't believe my ears. She affirmed it again, and I said "that is insane!" I hung up and called...