Social Feed

Main Feed My Feed

vurbano

Supporting Founder

Last reply Aug 6, 2007 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

D* already downrezzing HDLIL to 1440

Apparently I missed this and it was announced by a moderator we all know and love at AVS last month.

93 Replies · 10204 views

Load Replies (93) Reply Legacy View

Scott Greczkowski

Jul 27, 2007

BTW my contact says its not true and Earls contact (which is better then mine) also says its not true.

CoachGibbs

Jul 28, 2007

Scott Greczkowski said:
BTW my contact says its not true and Earls contact (which is better then mine) also says its not true.

I wish someone with a contact would ask why the hell they are showing NESNHD at 720p. Especially when they had it at 1080i for a good time.

JAG72

Jul 28, 2007

vurbano said:
Well I didnt sign anything.

Even if you didn't sign anything D* has you for another 2 years if you upgraded your equipment like you stated.

Jimbo

Jul 29, 2007

CoachGibbs said:
I wish someone with a contact would ask why the hell they are showing NESNHD at 720p. Especially when they had it at 1080i for a good time.

Larry said:
Forgive me for being naive, but if 1080i refreshes 1/2 the picture with each pass and 720p refreshes the entire picture at once...wouldn't 720p be the same as 1440i (if there was such a thing)??

Actually I would rather have the 720p over the 1080i for sports any day, mainly for the refresh rate.

Jimbo

vurbano

Jul 29, 2007

Jimbos said:
Actually I would rather have the 720p over the 1080i for sports any day, mainly for the refresh rate.

Jimbo

ESPN is shot in 720p just like ABC and FOX I think. Id rather they deliver 720p in 720p. less conversion the better. But as far as 720p being the best for sports thats hogwash. NOTHING comes close to pristine 1080i NFL football on CBS

Hemi 6.1

Jul 29, 2007

vurbano said:
ESPN is shot in 720p just like ABC and FOX I think. Id rather they deliver 720p in 720p. less conversion the better. But as far as 720p being the best for sports thats hogwash. NOTHING comes close to pristine 1080i NFL football on CBS

I disagree ! CBS HD is the worst. Progressive scan can't be beat when it comes to sports. Thats a fact!

vurbano

Jul 29, 2007

Hemi 6.1 said:
I disagree ! CBS HD is the worst. Progressive scan can't be beat when it comes to sports. Thats a fact!

Your local must be multicasting. Id suggest you do a poll on CBS HD NFL quality over at AVS so you can see how silly that statement is. FOXHD at 720p will never hold a candle to it. Its very rare that you can make out the individual blades of grass on any NFL football that isnt CBS 1080i. Given proper bandwidth 1080i puts 720p to shame.

vurbano

Jul 29, 2007

JAG72 said:
Even if you didn't sign anything D* has you for another 2 years if you upgraded your equipment like you stated.

I wonder how they enforce that without a contract.

JAG72

Jul 29, 2007

vurbano said:
I wonder how they enforce that without a contract.

You need to read the terms of upgrading equipment on their website. You activate a new receiver you are in another contract by default. It is all there within the fine print.

vurbano

Jul 30, 2007

JAG72 said:
You need to read the terms of upgrading equipment on their website. You activate a new receiver you are in another contract by default. It is all there within the fine print.

1. I didnt go to there website, I ordered by phone.

2. I didnt activate anything, the installer did.

3. I'm just arguing this because I find it interesting. But the more I do I can see how badly D* has screwed this up. If it were my company the installer would have had a contract there to sign for the customer.

JAG72

Jul 30, 2007

vurbano said:
1. I didnt go to there website, I ordered by phone.

2. I didnt activate anything, the installer did.

3. I'm just arguing this because I find it interesting. But the more I do I can see how badly D* has screwed this up. If it were my company the installer would have had a contract there to sign for the customer.

I can argue your points just as well.

1) I never said you ordered by there website. I told you to go and read the terms. I guess you must have internet to be able to do that since you post useless information here.

2) You did activate it. The installer was acting on your behalf during the installation. I bet you signed some type of paper work that shows the work was completed. If you didn't want it activated you could have told the installer that they were not allowed into your house or apartment.

3) Did D* screw this up or are you just upset that you didn't go the FIOS route. Must be second guessing yourself. I am sure that there are many around here that is sad you did not get FIOS.

vurbano

Jul 30, 2007

JAG72 said:
I can argue your points just as well.

1) I never said you ordered by there website. I told you to go and read the terms. I guess you must have internet to be able to do that since you post useless information here.

2) You did activate it. The installer was acting on your behalf during the installation. I bet you signed some type of paper work that shows the work was completed. If you didn't want it activated you could have told the installer that they were not allowed into your house or apartment.

3) Did D* screw this up or are you just upset that you didn't go the FIOS route. Must be second guessing yourself. I am sure that there are many around here that is sad you did not get FIOS.

1. How would a customer know to do that?
2. No I did not activate anything.
3. I have no problems with the installation I just don't see how this constitutes disclosure or an execution of an agreement. Very poor business practice.

JAG72

Jul 30, 2007

vurbano said:
I have no problems with the installation I just don't see how this constitutes disclosure or an execution of an agreement. Very poor business practice.

It is disclosed. When you sign up for D* you agree with the terms and conditions. It is not their fault that people don't read it.

vurbano

Jul 30, 2007

JAG72 said:
It is disclosed. When you sign up for D* you agree with the terms and conditions. It is not their fault that people don't read it.

There was nothing presented to the customer to read. I can see how this could be a big problem if people start contesting non existent contracts.

mi_old_bull

Jul 31, 2007

vurbano said:
Your local must be multicasting. Id suggest you do a poll on CBS HD NFL quality over at AVS so you can see how silly that statement is. FOXHD at 720p will never hold a candle to it. Its very rare that you can make out the individual blades of grass on any NFL football that isnt CBS 1080i. Given proper bandwidth 1080i puts 720p to shame.

Why do all the AVS Special Ed Members wake up every day blaming all the world's problems on subchannels? Bad economy? Muliticasting's fault. World war? Multicasting caused it. Dust storms on Mars? You know it, generated by subchannels, never happened before them.

My local CBS affiliate does not multicast, its digital signal is 100% dedicated to its HD, I receive it OTA and football looks crappy on it as the previous poster stated. The same is true with the local NBC station that had no subchannel until halfway through the season. The sub made no difference in the quality of NBC's football broadcasts, they were just as blotchy and blocked as before on any action shot. Give me progressive for sports all the time. I also notice that stations that broadcast in progressive have few or none of the problems interlacing channels do with action scenes even when the p stations have subs.

Brewer4

Aug 1, 2007

My locals have sub channels too and I think they look pretty good. Now some of the sub channels dont look so hot but at least the primary is receiving the majority of bandwidth.

vurbano

Aug 1, 2007

mi_old_bull said:
Why do all the AVS Special Ed Members wake up every day blaming all the world's problems on subchannels? Bad economy? Muliticasting's fault. World war? Multicasting caused it. Dust storms on Mars?

Why do trolls make up ID's just to post ridiculous crap in their very first post?

mi_old_bull said:
My local CBS affiliate does not multicast, its digital signal is 100% dedicated to its HD, I receive it OTA and football looks crappy on it as the previous poster stated.

If your CBS HD looks bad and doesnt multicast you have two choices.

1. get a new TV
2. get an eye exam

Smith P.

Aug 1, 2007

I would propose option 3) use narrow directional antenna with a rotor, preferable aim long beam Yagi-Uda antenna.

ScoBuck

Aug 1, 2007

vurbano said:
Why do trolls make up ID's just to post ridiculous crap in their very first post?

You made me laugh - after reading your posts for over 2 years. Good job.

JAG72

Aug 6, 2007

vurbano said:
There was nothing presented to the customer to read. I can see how this could be a big problem if people start contesting non existent contracts.

I just had my reinstall today and I was presented a lease addendum that I had to sign. It was on the back of installation service checklist. If you installer did not have you sign this then he was not doing his job.

View all replies (93)

TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 3:12 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Project Helix Price Rumor: Could the Next Xbox Cost $1,800? #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x3Zbzo-tk-s

Direct YouTube Link - Project Helix Price Rumor: Could the Next Xbox Cost $1,800? #shorts
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

0 Replies · 6 views

Replies Reply Legacy View

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 2:45 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

68565 Replies · 2675573 views

Load Replies (68565) Reply Legacy View

Reactions: c-spand

dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:42 AM

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

RaiderPower

Yesterday at 1:24 PM

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors

Reactions: FTA4PA

sdfntx

Yesterday at 3:01 PM

Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte

Reactions: Bobby

long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 4:27 PM

Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks

Reactions: FTA4PA, gms49ers and dishstaller

hwkn

Today at 2:45 AM

This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers

View all replies (68565)

iJustine

Last reply Today at 2:38 AM · posted in iJustine

iPhone Duo Crease?

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YxfvCOQv5uE

Direct YouTube Link - iPhone Duo Crease?
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

1 Replies · 9 views

Load Replies (1) Reply Legacy View

telstar_1

Today at 2:38 AM

It's not even where it folds!

iJustine

Today at 2:12 AM · posted in iJustine

Reading on the iPhone Duo!

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2KkkNffbY40

Direct YouTube Link - Reading on the iPhone Duo!
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

0 Replies · 5 views

Replies Reply Legacy View

iJustine

Today at 2:12 AM · posted in iJustine

Playing Xbox on the iPhone Duo!

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6t2FDCK5y40

Direct YouTube Link - Playing Xbox on the iPhone Duo!
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

0 Replies · 8 views

Replies Reply Legacy View

iJustine

Today at 2:12 AM · posted in iJustine

iPhone Duo Fold Animation

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_9uczoPSEaI

Direct YouTube Link - iPhone Duo Fold Animation
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

0 Replies · 7 views

Replies Reply Legacy View

SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 12:04 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

20 Replies · 501 views

Load Replies (20) Reply Legacy View

Strega

Yesterday at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Reactions: charlesrshell

Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:02 PM

Strega said:
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

Reactions: AZ., Bobby and charlesrshell

AZ.

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

someone is showing their age

Reactions: Almighty1 and charlesrshell

Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:38 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:

Reactions: charlesrshell

dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:03 PM

I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

Reactions: navychop and charlesrshell

navychop

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!

Reactions: Foxbat, charlesrshell and Bobby

dishstaller

Today at 12:04 AM

dishstaller said:
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz

View all replies (20)

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:02 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Country singer John Anderson died today

He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w

5 Replies · 45 views

Load Replies (5) Reply Legacy View

Reactions: navychop and comfortably_numb

FTA4PA

Yesterday at 10:53 PM

Rest In Peace

Reactions: dishstaller

mikew

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.

Reactions: dishstaller

Bobby

Yesterday at 11:03 PM

Rest in peace.

Reactions: dishstaller

comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:04 PM

Hope you're out there Swingin', John.

Reactions: dishstaller

dishstaller

Today at 12:02 AM

mikew said:
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.

That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.

niembre

Last reply Yesterday at 11:21 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA no working after Update

My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?

201 Replies · 5114 views

Load Replies (201) Reply Legacy View

Reactions: charlesrshell

Scott Greczkowski

Sep 24, 2026

Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.

Reactions: Foxbat, Briant73, pamajestic and 3 others

bookworm370

Sep 25, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.

Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!

Reactions: ppappas, Almighty1 and charlesrshell

slow_poke_pete

Sep 27, 2026

bookworm370 said:
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!

dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!

Reactions: charlesrshell

ppappas

Sep 30, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!

They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.

Reactions: slow_poke_pete and charlesrshell

Almighty1

Oct 1, 2026

ppappas said:
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.

Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.

Reactions: slow_poke_pete and charlesrshell

Briant73

Yesterday at 9:19 PM

Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

Reactions: charlesrshell

Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:48 PM

Briant73 said:
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

Reactions: charlesrshell

dishstaller

Yesterday at 9:57 PM

Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.

Reactions: navychop and charlesrshell

navychop

Yesterday at 11:21 PM

In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.

Reactions: Bobby, dishstaller and charlesrshell

View all replies (201)

MartyDe

Last reply Yesterday at 10:37 PM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

ATSC 3 converter boxes

Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.

Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York

Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available

www.tvtechnology.com

6 Replies · 218 views

Load Replies (6) Reply Legacy View

navychop

Tuesday at 12:03 PM

DEATH TO NEXGEN!

Reactions: primestar31, RaVo68, gms49ers and 1 other person

TRG

Tuesday at 12:12 PM

17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.

Reactions: N5XZS, osu1991, slow_poke_pete and 1 other person

navychop

Tuesday at 12:27 PM

Comb your hair.

primestar31

Yesterday at 7:29 PM

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

Reactions: FTA4PA and navychop

navychop

Yesterday at 10:37 PM

I truly hope you are right.

Reactions: FTA4PA

View all replies (6)

Top

Back

Search

Search

Social Feed

D* already downrezzing HDLIL to 1440

Project Helix Price Rumor: Could the Next Xbox Cost $1,800? #shorts

Song Name Game Part 3!

iPhone Duo Crease?

Reading on the iPhone Duo!

Playing Xbox on the iPhone Duo!

iPhone Duo Fold Animation

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Country singer John Anderson died today

OTA no working after Update

ATSC 3 converter boxes

Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York