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iceshark
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Okay, I have been a customer of Dishnet for 10 years or so. I have had multiple upgrades and service calls and never had a no show or issue. I am aware that I might the expection not the rule. But now I have decieded to give up on waiting for the NFL and got Direct tv. Now the horror story begins!

I bought my system thru Costco. Costco sells at a Kiosk in the stores. The day I went the Kiosk was unmanned (the kiosks in Wash are run by a third party cell phone company backed by all Costco customer service and warretys) I picked up the phone there and ordered the special for 69.00 NFL ticket and ordered one free DVR and paid on phone for 99.00 HD receiver. The install was setup for today Sunday 8-5-07. Now the horror!

1. On Thursday I called Directv at approx 5pm PDT to inquire about switching to a HDdvr and paying differance of 199.00 The csr was extremely nice and while helping me kind of hesitated and said, Mr. XXXXX I am sorry it looks like your installation was cancelled! WHAT THE HECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ask why. He says, It appears you have a balance owed from 1997 for $35.00

I say, yes I had dtv back in 1997 and closed account and went to dish. I said I did not have a balance owed. He researches and says it was for not returning equiptment in a warrenty exchange. I say I owned my box back then and did not ever have a problem with it. He sends me to the collection dept and they were extremelly rude. They would not get a supervisor and refused to budge on waiving a mistake by them. She said I had to dispute it by mail. I just gave in a paid it. I was mad but a beaten man. My wife said just cancel and stay with dish. I had gone this far and really want to see my hometown football team more then a couple times a year.

So they transfer me back to installations and luckily they still had my work order open and were able to get me the install on same day I had.

2. I come home on Friday and went to me email. It had a welcome email from DTV. I thought thats cool! So I signed up for the DTV webpage and clicked on YOUR INSTALLATION" What do I see but INSTALLATION CANCELLED! So I get on phone and after hour on hold they say it was a system error and I am back on for Sunday installation. I was assured there would be no other issue.


3. That lasted a day! Yesterday I am working in the yard and my cell rings. I dont know the number so I let it go to voice mail. I then called my voicemail. Its a either very tired CSR or drunk CSR (she sounded very out of it) She procedes to let me know they are out of HD recievers and will have to reschedule for next week.

I AM FLAMING MAD at this point and call her right back. I polietly told her that that was unacceptable as I was assured install was to me made on time by excalation team but a day ago. She tries to tell me the truck broke down and they wont have recievers for a week.

I say, Funny but I was just at Costco where I bought my system thru and they have stacks of HD recievers. I tell her I will go buy a HD reciever and they better show up to install it along with the DVR from them. She says, Well umm Ok we can do that but you need to call DTV and let them know so you get a refund on the reciver you paid for on the phone that we were scheduled to put in. I again asked will you be here tomorrow. She said yes.

My next call was to DTV excalations dept. A very nice supervisor told me that since I bought reciever from phone thru Cosco (DIRECTV) that she could not refund in and I would have to deal with Costco for refund. She said also that if I go buy reciever the installer will only install the DVR and I would have to hook up the HD receiver. I say but I am buying it from where I bought system from.So on one hand your telling me Costco is resposible for refund
but buying the reciver in Costco can not be installed without another work order. She says she will call installer and puts me on hold.

She comes back and says the installation company (Iron works ?) has agreed to install both recievers so I am good to go there. She says she will give me a 99.00 programming credit for my trouble as she cant figure out who could give me a refund on the receiver they are out of that I am having to buy at costco. She assured me they would be out Sunday as scheduled. She even reads the notes she has made on account. I am feeling much better as she was very nice. However I am concerned about the reciever.


I then go to Costco and meet with the manager and the kiosk operator and tell them my story. They are very concerned and the Kiosk operator under direction from Costco calls Direct and asks for my refund. The CSR from DTV says I got a $99.00 credit so I can not have a refund. We tell her to cancel the credit and refund me. She says she cant reverse the credit as it was done by Direct direct and she is a third party. The Costco Manager is getting even more mad then me. He orders her to refund me. She refused.

So I bought the HD receiver, funny as it was only $84.95 and cheaper then on the phone or online. The Costco manager assured me he would have his contacts make this a big deal with them on Monday. We shall see.

So know I am into it for another paid reciever and still an excited about SUndays install.


Now to Sunday TODAY!

My install is set for 12-5pm. It hits 12 and my cell rings. I answer and its IRON installs. The dispatcher is calling to confirm my installation for MONDAY!!!! I very politely say, my install is today and has been gauranteed by the manager of DTV escalations dept. He says they cant install as they dont have the HD reciever. DUHHHH!!!! I say, Well dont you have your notes. He says he had not looked at them. DOUBLE DUHHHHH! I say I bought HD reciever and its here waiting for the install TODAY! He says his installers are already scheduled out. I say I was scheduled before the others and I will call DTV manager NOW! He says dont do that he will call right back.

He calls back and says his installer will squeeze me in today. WOW! DONT DO ME ANY FAVORS!

I say, I already have my rg-6 drops and the install will only take as long as it takes to peak dish and screw on connectors. I dont need a tutorial. He says his installer will be very happy to hear that!

So there you have it. What a nightmare!

Lets see how it goes when he shows up.

These guys dont expect tips do they!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
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vurbano
You should have just stayed with Dish rather than pay those SOBs 35 bucks that they didnt have coming to them. Oh you owe me 50. Pay up.
Claude Greiner
Sounds like one hand don't know what the other hand is doing!
FlyingJ
You should have just stayed with Dish rather than pay those SOBs 35 bucks that they didnt have coming to them. Oh you owe me 50. Pay up.


Once again Vurbano has chosen to be very helpful.

Soon the "nightmare" will be over and come September you will be one happy son of a b.... watching your team on Sunday Ticket!! Hey V, how was he gonna do that with E*?
webbydude
Sounds like one hand don't know what the other hand is doing!

I'm inclined to agree with Claude. Too many 3rd parties involved here (Costco, HSP, as well as D* CSR). No wonder signals are getting crossed. More than likely the HSP just assumed nobody would go out of their way to get a receiver from someone else other than one of their techs bringing it out. IMO, they screwed up by calling you on the day of the install versus the night before. If they thought they weren't going to route someone your way, at least have the common courtesy to let you know the day prior. Makes life on a Sunday much easier on your part if you knew ahead of time that they weren't going to show.
TNGTony
So... Did they squeeze you? I mean, were you installed today? How's service?

See ya
Tony
iceshark
Installer saves the day! Glad I took your advice and took a wait see with installer. He did an excellent job! He is there longest tenure installer with 7 years exp. He ran cables with extreme care and did the cleanest install I have seen since I installed C-band stuff 20 years ago! He cleaned all of the mess and even took off old Comcast and Dish cables and staples from my home and threw away. He hooked up the new Cal-amp made slimline 5 lnb dish and ran lines to 2 extra rooms for free where I may add recievers. I even told him I was bummed as I ran my OTA of a diplexer with my dish and he ran an extra line for the OTA and got it going as well for no charge. I gave him a $30.00 tip and he tried to refuse it. I told him if he did not take it I would be offended.

Now to the quality vs my Dish 622. I find the Discovery channel and other true HD channels are much cleaner then with my 622. Off air is comprable to my 622. I think the SD looks better as well with my new Direct box.

THe only thing I so far dont care for is the menu and guide system for the DTV DVR vs my Dish 508 or 622. The Direct box is slow compared to them and the guide is awful boring compared to Dish guides. No combined channel logo with channel number. Little show information on each line. Plus can you set the DVR to record all show like with Dish? I dont see that option. Example. With my 508 and 622 I can set it to record Survior each week at set time. This reciever seems like it only does a one time shot.

I checked my account now that it is activated and it shows I have Nascar and NFL HD for zero charge. So I guess the CSR was right that it came with new promotion for 69.95 NFL ticket per month for big package.

The only other gripe I have is I went to upgrade page online and it says to upgrade to the Hr-20 HD dvr I must pay 299.00 plus install. Not the BEST deal $199.00 free install like I was told. I will be calling shortly.

So far so good!
G
Glad to hear your install went well!
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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dishstaller
Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
RaiderPower
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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long_time_Dish
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
Last reply · posted in iJustine
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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S
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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ppappas
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
B
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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