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JAG72
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Well after my 1 year vacation from Directv on a evaluation of of Dish, I am now officially back with Directv today. The straw that broke the camels back and brought me back is the poor signal from Dish's 129 SAT. This is were my local channels are and I would lose them even with a few clouds in the sky. The other problem is they would not let me upgrade to another 622 without paying the full retail price. I was not allowed to lease a 2nd 622 and was treated very rudely when I tried.

Well the install went pretty good. The only problem was the installer used my OTA cable for one of the SAT feeds and was wondering why he could not get a signal on the one receiver. That was quickly resolved and everything else went pretty good. The only other problem was that I did not receive HBO, Showtime and Starz at first. These were free to me for the first 3 months. The wonderful D* CSR (great t deal with somebody that speaks English unlike the Dish CSR's) took care of this real quick and made it so I did not have to send in my rebate to receive a $10 credit for 10 months. I was very impressed with how helpful and friendly they were.

So here is the setup:

Slimline Dish
HR20-100
H20-600
R15-500
D11-100

So far I am happy but I have a lot to learn about the new receivers. These DVR's are all new to me as my last receiver was a HR10-250, H20 and SD Tivo receivers.

When I called to cancel my Dish service I was asked if I wanted my upgrade to the 622 as they might be able to trick the system to allow me to receive it. I stated that this was a little to late as I talked to a couple of CSR's and emailed to the CEO address with no luck. I did not even get a response from them on my issues with the CSR's or not being allowed to upgrade without paying retail for the system. I was fine with the lease upgrade cost but I did not want to own the system.

Well I am now waiting until mid September with everybody else to see all these new national HD activated. It will be hard watching all the new Dish channels coming on this month but I will just have to remember that our time will come.
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Hey Jag, welcome back.

If you can get them to get you a D12 to replace the D11 you'll be more prepared for the SWM in the future (D12's can use an SWM as they get software upgrades).

Also check the Tips and Tricks threads here or at DBSTalk for how to best use your HR20, especially coming from a Tivo.
JAG72
Hey Jag, welcome back.

If you can get them to get you a D12 to replace the D11 you'll be more prepared for the SWM in the future (D12's can use an SWM as they get software upgrades).

Also check the Tips and Tricks threads here or at DBSTalk for how to best use your HR20, especially coming from a Tivo.

What is SWM?
Brewer4
What is SWM?

Single Wire Multiswitch. All dish inputs and OTA into one multiswitch with one wire down to select receivers. So HR20 would need just one wire if using SWM.
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Single Wire Multiswitch. All dish inputs and OTA into one multiswitch with one wire down to select receivers. So HR20 would need just one wire if using SWM.

Correct.
SWM5 has 5 ports and the SWM8 has...wait for it....8 ports. The SWM8 is the only one with OTA integrated. Plus they are powered.

Anyway, it's main function is to allow dual tuners with just one cable. Also the outputs from the SWM can be split with just regular old cable splitters and can use plain old RG59 cable you probably already have from the cable company. Thus an installer can use an SWM and then just plug into your current house cabling and that's it.

However if you're already cabled with no troubles you won't need it. But it's nice. Supposed to be out this fall perhaps.

Your D11 is fine, I just figured you might as well get the latest D12. But if you plan to upgrade to an H20 later on then you're all good.
rad
rad
Also the outputs from the SWM can be split with just regular old cable splitters and can use plain old RG59 cable you probably already have from the cable company.

I thought you had to use splitters with the correct bandwidth and one's that passed power, not just any cable splitter will work.
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I thought you had to use splitters with the correct bandwidth and one's that passed power, not just any cable splitter will work.

*After* the SWM as far as I know any old splitter will work. I am using a cheapo RCA one I got at radio shack that goes up to 1.0 ghz. Off it I am running a dual tuner HR20 plus another SWM capable receiver.

From what I understand is that part of the whole point of the SWM is so that it will really simplify future installs in that they won't have to run new cables to every room in many cases. Just plug into the current house cable runs with unknown splitters/RG59 and what not and things will work just like getting a cable box from the cable company.
rad
rad
*After* the SWM as far as I know any old splitter will work. I am using a cheapo RCA one I got at radio shack that goes up to 1.0 ghz. Off it I am running a dual tuner HR20 plus another SWM capable receiver.

OK, I was going off of Earls SWM thread where is said "These splitters need to be rated for frequencies between 5 and 2000 mhz.".
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OK, I was going off of Earls SWM thread where is said "These splitters need to be rated for frequencies between 5 and 2000 mhz.".

Don't know. All I can say is what's working for me. I had no idea there were any restrictions on splitters. Although 2ghz would be better and I thought mine was but when I checked before my last post I saw it was only 1 ghz.

In any case, pay the extra 5 bucks and get a 2ghz to 3ghz splitter to be safe. :D
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
RaiderPower
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
Last reply · posted in iJustine
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
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Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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