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Problem being investigated: Occasionally my "main" receiver in the living room gives me the "acquiring satellite" message while my OTHER receiver is fine.
Sorry this is a bit long, but I'm trying to describe accurately ...
I have a 2 dish system looking at 61.5, 110, 119
The 61.5 dish is up on my roof and the other (dish pro plus) is mounted on the back wall of my house.
Coax comes down from the 61.5 dish to the "main" dish.
I have 2 receivers. A 622 in the living room and a 508 in the bedroom
I don't see any splitter/combiners anywhere in the cable runs except for the one right at the 622 going from the single cable to the 2 for connection to the 622. The cable run from the dish locations to the main TV location is a bit long. Probably nearing 75 feet. Total cable run to my bedroom TV is probably more like 25 feet (for comparison). Cables from dish to main TV go from dish, to grounding block (connector1), inside garage, across family room to a wall plate (connector2), across basement where I had to put 2 cable together to reach because I couldn't find a single length long enough at the time (connector3), and up into the living room to the TV where it is split to the back of the 622 (connector4).
As you can see I have 4 places where the cable to the main receiver is not continuous. I've labeled them as connectorX above for simplicity. I know I can't eliminate the grounding block or the splitter (which I believe in this case is a diplexer?) at the back of the 622. I really can't eliminate the connection at the wall plate in the family room due to the way the house is constructed. The only possible connector I could eliminate is the one in the basement where 2 coax lengths are joined.
I have gone through and replaced the wall jack in the family room and the barrel (splice) connector in the basement with the rated ones (blue centers). The only connection being made that does NOT have blue centers is the grounding block.
I can only think of 2 improvements I could make. One is obviously to replace the cable running the length of the basement with a single piece and eliminate that connection halfway that now splices 2 cables together. The other would be to completely abandon the current coax run with its many connections and install a completely new cable from the dish to the main receiver. I would do this by running the cable on the outside of the house (tucking it into various siding channels I could completely hide it). I might be able to eliminate as much as 25 feet off that run to the main receiver by doing this and I'd only have a grounding block connection between the dish and the 622.
I don't think the "acquiring satellite" issue is receiver related because I just replaced a 625 with this 622 and the 625 did it as well. It has only really done this since we rearranged teh house and moved the TV from the family room to the living room (which required a LOT more cable that we've had up until that time.... added 50 feet to the cable run at least). The bedroom receiver seems to never do this "acquiring satellite" and we have noted the living room receiver doing it while the bedroom receiver does not and this really has me loking at the cabling as that's the most obvious difference between the 2 receivers.
So.... any thoughts would be appreciated. Does it sound like I'm on the right track in trying to chase this down?
Sorry this is a bit long, but I'm trying to describe accurately ...
I have a 2 dish system looking at 61.5, 110, 119
The 61.5 dish is up on my roof and the other (dish pro plus) is mounted on the back wall of my house.
Coax comes down from the 61.5 dish to the "main" dish.
I have 2 receivers. A 622 in the living room and a 508 in the bedroom
I don't see any splitter/combiners anywhere in the cable runs except for the one right at the 622 going from the single cable to the 2 for connection to the 622. The cable run from the dish locations to the main TV location is a bit long. Probably nearing 75 feet. Total cable run to my bedroom TV is probably more like 25 feet (for comparison). Cables from dish to main TV go from dish, to grounding block (connector1), inside garage, across family room to a wall plate (connector2), across basement where I had to put 2 cable together to reach because I couldn't find a single length long enough at the time (connector3), and up into the living room to the TV where it is split to the back of the 622 (connector4).
As you can see I have 4 places where the cable to the main receiver is not continuous. I've labeled them as connectorX above for simplicity. I know I can't eliminate the grounding block or the splitter (which I believe in this case is a diplexer?) at the back of the 622. I really can't eliminate the connection at the wall plate in the family room due to the way the house is constructed. The only possible connector I could eliminate is the one in the basement where 2 coax lengths are joined.
I have gone through and replaced the wall jack in the family room and the barrel (splice) connector in the basement with the rated ones (blue centers). The only connection being made that does NOT have blue centers is the grounding block.
I can only think of 2 improvements I could make. One is obviously to replace the cable running the length of the basement with a single piece and eliminate that connection halfway that now splices 2 cables together. The other would be to completely abandon the current coax run with its many connections and install a completely new cable from the dish to the main receiver. I would do this by running the cable on the outside of the house (tucking it into various siding channels I could completely hide it). I might be able to eliminate as much as 25 feet off that run to the main receiver by doing this and I'd only have a grounding block connection between the dish and the 622.
I don't think the "acquiring satellite" issue is receiver related because I just replaced a 625 with this 622 and the 625 did it as well. It has only really done this since we rearranged teh house and moved the TV from the family room to the living room (which required a LOT more cable that we've had up until that time.... added 50 feet to the cable run at least). The bedroom receiver seems to never do this "acquiring satellite" and we have noted the living room receiver doing it while the bedroom receiver does not and this really has me loking at the cabling as that's the most obvious difference between the 2 receivers.
So.... any thoughts would be appreciated. Does it sound like I'm on the right track in trying to chase this down?
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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