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ijahman

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Last reply Sep 11, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 1000 to 1000+ for 60 bucks?????

A CSR informed me today that I would have to pay 60 bucks to upgrade my fresh move install in order to receive my locals in HD in Raleigh NC. It just amazes me that they would install two dish 500's at my prior address, and OTA for free but want to charge me 60 bucks in NC to get my locals in HD. Has anyone gotten around this? The money is not the issue its all about principal.

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scots

Sep 9, 2007

I'm in Raleigh and was having problems with my reception, and while fiddling around in the menus I saw a message about LNB drift. I looked around on the internet and saw that this usually means that one of the LNB's is about to go bad. I called tech support and told the girl about the LNB drift message. All the things I had read said to be prepared to read off all the numbers in the LNB drift message when calling in. The girl didn't seem interested at all in the LNB drift message. All she kept talking about was how her system was telling her that I didn't have the correct equipment to be receiving the packages that I was subscribed to. After a few minutes of that I finally said "well I do subscribe to the HD package and my locals but don't get my locals in HD, and you do carry my HD locals." She put me on hold for a minute, and when she came back she said she was going to have a technician come out and replace my dish. No mention of it costing anything.

The technicians came out and all they did was replace one of my LNB's. I'm not positive (because I'm no expert on this stuff), but I think they replaced the wrong one. I heard them say something about 110, and it was 129 that the message mentioned. They didn't look to see what the message said before they started the work. I said something to them about what the girl had said about me not having the right equipment and that she was going to have them replace the dish. They said that the dish could be replaced if I wanted to, and the only thing extra it would get me would be local HD's. They said they didn't have a dish with them because that wasn't in the work order. When they called in to report they had completed replacing the LNB they gave the phone to me. The girl said that I could upgrade from my 1000 to the 1000+ for $59.99 with an 18-month contract, or a much higher price (I think it was $199?) without a contract. I said OK, whatever and did it for the $59.99 because I just didn't feel like arguing with anyone about it and didn't want to pay the higher price. After the technicians left I checked and was still getting the same LNB drift message on 129, but I didn't call in about it since they were coming back in a week to replace the dish.

I have the 1000+ now and everything seems to be working OK. I think the guy that came to replace the dish was some kind of subcontractor or something. He showed up in a beat up old minivan, and he looked a little rough around the edges. He wasn't wearing a Dish Network "uniform" either. That's the first time I've ever had someone come to install or work on my dish that wasn't in a Dish Network vehicle and not wearing a Dish Network shirt/uniform.

ijahman

Sep 10, 2007

Thanks Guys I just wanted to make sure this wasnt some new revenue stream for dish and its and current normal so i guess 60 bucks it is. I have noticed that the dish 1000+ prices on ebay were 199.00 so i guess I cant really complain about 60 bucks. Especially with the wife in my ear every other night about why dont have locals anymore!

dishcomm

Sep 10, 2007

scots said:
I'm in Raleigh and was having problems with my reception, and while fiddling around in the menus I saw a message about LNB drift. I looked around on the internet and saw that this usually means that one of the LNB's is about to go bad. I called tech support and told the girl about the LNB drift message. All the things I had read said to be prepared to read off all the numbers in the LNB drift message when calling in. The girl didn't seem interested at all in the LNB drift message. All she kept talking about was how her system was telling her that I didn't have the correct equipment to be receiving the packages that I was subscribed to. After a few minutes of that I finally said "well I do subscribe to the HD package and my locals but don't get my locals in HD, and you do carry my HD locals." She put me on hold for a minute, and when she came back she said she was going to have a technician come out and replace my dish. No mention of it costing anything.

The technicians came out and all they did was replace one of my LNB's. I'm not positive (because I'm no expert on this stuff), but I think they replaced the wrong one. I heard them say something about 110, and it was 129 that the message mentioned. They didn't look to see what the message said before they started the work. I said something to them about what the girl had said about me not having the right equipment and that she was going to have them replace the dish. They said that the dish could be replaced if I wanted to, and the only thing extra it would get me would be local HD's. They said they didn't have a dish with them because that wasn't in the work order. When they called in to report they had completed replacing the LNB they gave the phone to me. The girl said that I could upgrade from my 1000 to the 1000+ for $59.99 with an 18-month contract, or a much higher price (I think it was $199?) without a contract. I said OK, whatever and did it for the $59.99 because I just didn't feel like arguing with anyone about it and didn't want to pay the higher price. After the technicians left I checked and was still getting the same LNB drift message on 129, but I didn't call in about it since they were coming back in a week to replace the dish.

I have the 1000+ now and everything seems to be working OK. I think the guy that came to replace the dish was some kind of subcontractor or something. He showed up in a beat up old minivan, and he looked a little rough around the edges. He wasn't wearing a Dish Network "uniform" either. That's the first time I've ever had someone come to install or work on my dish that wasn't in a Dish Network vehicle and not wearing a Dish Network shirt/uniform.

Here we go again..
Ok what is your complaint? Is it the fact that your service isn't working properly?. Is it a bias against contract workers?...Is it the cost of the upgrade( where this notion that customers should have to pay for nothing is a mystery to me)
The LNB drift message woil be there until the matrix is cleared. Would you like to know how to do that?.

dishcomm

Sep 10, 2007

ijahman said:
Thanks Guys I just wanted to make sure this wasnt some new revenue stream for dish and its and current normal so i guess 60 bucks it is. I have noticed that the dish 1000+ prices on ebay were 199.00 so i guess I cant really complain about 60 bucks. Especially with the wife in my ear every other night about why dont have locals anymore!

Don't forget the $200 switch on top of that plus paying the (OH MY GOD ,YOU HAVE TO PAY THE WORKER?!!!!!!) technician...
Yep we eat, need shelter and clothing just lke everyone else.

kstuart

Sep 11, 2007

ijahman said:
Thanks Guys I just wanted to make sure this wasnt some new revenue stream for dish and its and current normal so i guess 60 bucks it is. I have noticed that the dish 1000+ prices on ebay were 199.00 so i guess I cant really complain about 60 bucks. Especially with the wife in my ear every other night about why dont have locals anymore!

If you were the real "Ijahman" I would be happy to pay it for you !

"Haile I Hymn" was worth more than that...

scots

Sep 11, 2007

dishcomm said:
Here we go again..
Ok what is your complaint? Is it the fact that your service isn't working properly?. Is it a bias against contract workers?...Is it the cost of the upgrade( where this notion that customers should have to pay for nothing is a mystery to me)
The LNB drift message woil be there until the matrix is cleared. Would you like to know how to do that?.

I apologize in advance if I took your post in the wrong way, but you seem to have a bit of an attitude problem. My service is working just fine. I believe I said in my previous post that it's been working fine since they replaced the dish. I wasn't complaining about anything. I was just stating what all had happened. Believe me, if I was complaining everyone would definitely know about it.

I didn't call in asking to have my dish replaced, and certainly wasn't expecting to get something for free. I had been having reception issues with HD channels, then found the LNB drift message which I assumed was the cause of the HD reception issues. All I was expecting was for someone to come out and replace the LNB, and I figured I would have to pay $25 (or whatever the service call fee is when one has the DHPP). The rep I spoke with in tech support said that she was going to send someone out to replace my dish because her system was showing that I didn't have the proper equipment to receive everything I was subscribed to. Those were her exact words, and all she seemed interested in was "replacing my dish." She wasn't interested at all in the LNB drift message, even though I mentioned several times that I was getting that message and that I believed it was the cause of my reception issues on the HD channels. She never asked for any information at all from the LNB drift message. I had the message up on the screen when I called in because I was expecting her to ask me to read off all the numbers to her. All she kept asking me were things like did I know which model dish I had, did I know which satellites I was receiving signal from, etc (all of which I did know). After she continually kept mentioning me "not having the proper equipment" I finally said "well, I do subscribe to both the HD package and my locals but don't get my locals in HD...and you do carry them." I did not at that time, or any other time during the call, ask for anything to be done about me not receiving my locals in HD. Like I said, I wasn't trying to get anything for free, but she didn't say that it would cost anything or possibly require an 18-month commitment to have the dish replaced. I just figured I had gotten a rep that was having a really good day or was exceptionally nice or something.

The guys that showed up for the appointment she had made were not contract workers, and were the usual Dish Network guys, in a Dish Network van and wearing Dish Network uniforms. They knew absolutely nothing about replacing the dish, didn't have a dish with them because it "wasn't in the work order" (which I can understand), and had no clue why the rep would have told me that she was going to have my dish replaced. They didn't check the LNB drift message before starting their work, and at some point I very clearly heard them mention something about the 110 LNB. There couldn't have been any information in their work order on which LNB to work on (unless the receiver reported it when it "phoned home"...again, I'm no expert), as the rep never took any info at all from me about the message. The LNB drift message was for 129, so I assumed that would be the LNB that should have been replaced/worked on. When they were done and made their call to Dish to report that they had finished the repair they gave the phone to me so the rep could explain about getting a new dish to me. I had no problem with the 18-month commitment, as I've had Dish for a while and have never really had any problems with the service. I also had no problem with paying the $59.99 for the dish (once again, I wasn't trying to get something for free), but it was a bit of a surprise. It would have been nice if the first rep would have said something about the fees and/or commitment rather than making it seem as if it would be done at no cost to me. I hadn't placed a service call since adding the DHPP, and figured the replacement dish was either covered under that or as I said earlier had just gotten the rep when she was in a really good mood or whatever when I was speaking with that first rep. I didn't feel it was worth questioning the work the LNB replacement that had been done since the dish was going to be replaced in a week.

Also, I have no bias against contract workers. I've been with Dish for several years now, and they've never used a contract worker in all the times they've been to my house before. I didn't even know they used contract workers in the Raleigh area. It was just a bit of a surprise is all...seeing this "rough" looking guy show up in a beat up minivan when it's always been really professional looking guys in Dish Network vehicles in the past. There was no indication who he was or what he was there for until he said "I'm here to replace your dish." I had no clue who he was when he pulled into my driveway because it wasn't what I was expecting. He was very pleasant, showed up 30 minutes early (which the "regular" Dish guys have never done), and did a decent job from what I can tell. He even called to let me know that he was running early, but I wasn't able to take the call at the time because I was in the dentist chair with a drill in one of my molars.

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spacenerd

Last reply 59 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Boost Mobile

I know this is for Dish TV service but was wondering if anyone has gone from Verizon to the Dish Boost Mobile cell phone service and would you recommend it.
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navychop

Jun 15, 2026

CDLs are in BIG demand. Ever notice how close to 100% of OTR trucks have hiring signs on them?

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HipKat

Jun 16, 2026

navychop said:
CDLs are in BIG demand. Ever notice how close to 100% of OTR trucks have hiring signs on them?

That's because the one good thing the administration is doing is finally going after the fake and non-domiciled CDL drivers, opening the door to hire more valid drivers and hopefully will push the rates back up.

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Arctic_fox

Monday at 4:11 PM

HipKat said:
That's because the one good thing the administration is doing is finally going after the fake and non-domiciled CDL drivers, opening the door to hire more valid drivers and hopefully will push the rates back up.

now let's get rid of the piss tanks and tampons off of diesels aka emissions crap since it can bankrupt someone!!! and get rid of ELD'S since they make some drivers drive like idiots trying to find a parking spot. starter mega carriers should not allow new drivers to train that's just a way for em to move cheap freight..

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HipKat

Monday at 8:03 PM

Arctic_fox said:
now let's get rid of the piss tanks and tampons off of diesels aka emissions crap since it can bankrupt someone!!! and get rid of ELD'S since they make some drivers drive like idiots trying to find a parking spot. starter mega carriers should not allow new drivers to train that's just a way for em to move cheap freight..

And when they get rid of driver-facing cameras, they'll start to attract the prototypical truck driver back to the industry.

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 2:01 PM

HipKat said:
And when they get rid of driver-facing cameras, they'll start to attract the prototypical truck driver back to the industry.

i own my own truck i don't have none of that crap :biggrin

just an outward facing cam for a**holes in 4 wheelers and the break checker's

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:23 PM

Arctic_fox said:
i own my own truck i don't have none of that crap just an outward facing cam for a**holes in 4 wheelers and the break checker's

I thought about just buying my own, but goddang. I bought a nice 2000 W900L in 2004 for $52K. New they were just over 100K. Now, a new KW W990 is over $300,000.00
I couldn't afford a new one, but used truck prices are just as crazy

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 9:09 PM

My brother knows a source for lower cost used. They're automatics, if don't mind giving up shifting for self

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Arctic_fox

Today at 2:24 AM

HipKat said:
I thought about just buying my own, but goddang. I bought a nice 2000 W900L in 2004 for $52K. New they were just over 100K. Now, a new KW W990 is over $300,000.00
I couldn't afford a new one, but used truck prices are just as crazy

This is still true to this day. The w9's are going for 235.00k to 300k!!! but goddang id''e spend it on a kitty whopper over a frieghtshacker castacrap!!! I only buy new so i can get the manual trans and delete all of the safety crap like adaptive cruise and lane departure warning and all of that crap as that will have you pulling your hair out. truck prices are still crazy today!! and in my line of work i need a 170 inch sleeper since i can't park in choke and pukes or walmarts

. right now heavy haul is big with all of the AI data centers if your into flat bedding!!! my wife is already looking for our second truck. i just cringe when she shows me LMFAO :biggrin

Arctic_fox

Today at 2:45 AM

telstar_1 said:
My brother knows a source for lower cost used. They're automatics, if don't mind giving up shifting for self

i know someone that's going to retire he's selling his truck' it has 200k miles on it with an 18 speed and cummings x15 with a 156 inch bunk year is a 2024, there's deals to be found and had out there!!!

Arctic_fox

59 minutes ago

HipKat said:
I thought about just buying my own, but goddang. I bought a nice 2000 W900L in 2004 for $52K. New they were just over 100K. Now, a new KW W990 is over $300,000.00
I couldn't afford a new one, but used truck prices are just as crazy

have you tried looking for an O/O that's going into retirement? sometimes you can get a good deal and the owner will work with you as far as financing they act as the bank when your done paying it off then they give you the title. the truck along with it's depreciation are tax write off's!!!

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Jun 16, 2026

MysteryMan said:
2026-06 Security Update (KB5094126) Builds: 26200.8655 and 26100.8695 and 2026-06 .NET 80.28 for x64 Client (KB5097149) and 2026-06 .NET Security Update Builds: 26200.8655 and 261`00.8655 (KB509426) have been released. Moderate time needed for those choosing to perform a manual download/install/restart. Quality improvements only. No new operating system features.

My Win10 desktop was freezing all the time and two different guys told me probably needed a new HHD. I am OLD and finally after two days got 10 re-installed. Then I would selet to do update's would lock up. Maybe i should have let it do them at night. I have shut off updates for 30 days to see how it runs. Seems to be running fine but what will happen if it does not update. It was my understanding MS was not going to support them but when i did the new install it gave me the option for them to continue for 6 more months.

HipKat

Jun 17, 2026

Bruno said:
My Win10 desktop was freezing all the time and two different guys told me probably needed a new HHD. I am OLD and finally after two days got 10 re-installed. Then I would selet to do update's would lock up. Maybe i should have let it do them at night. I have shut off updates for 30 days to see how it runs. Seems to be running fine but what will happen if it does not update. It was my understanding MS was not going to support them but when i did the new install it gave me the option for them to continue for 6 more months.

Why not Win 11?? Why stick with an OS that's losing support?? Win 11 isn't my main OS, but it's not the boogieman people said it was when it first came out

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harshness

Jun 17, 2026

HipKat said:
Why stick with an OS that's losing support??

For me, it is mostly about the abject failure Microsoft's "support" has turned out to be. Their "support" has been at least as much of a millstone as a life preserver. This behavior on Microsoft's part arguably shouldn't be "supported".

The last "Patch Tuesday" (June 9) laundry list included 200 issues, including five known zero-days and one exploited zero-day. There were 38 "critical" vulnerabilities, including 28 Remote Code Executions, four Elevation of Privileges, and an Information Disclosure.

Among all "threat level" classes:

65 Elevation of Privilege Vulnerabilities
19 Security Feature Bypass Vulnerabilities
55 Remote Code Execution Vulnerabilities
30 Information Disclosure Vulnerabilities
7 Denial of Service Vulnerabilities
27 Spoofing Vulnerabilities

According to Bleeping Computer, users who are up-to-date with Windows 11 may experience problems (that don't throw an error) with third-party applications trying to open Office applications using OLE -- a core feature of Office since 1990.

Just yesterday, with the help of a one-man, third-party support site for Windows, I was able to get past a Windows Extended Security Updates activation error that has been plaguing me since October. The fix involved changing an obscurely-named registry entry from one to zero.

I still haven't figured out why Windows thinks I'm enrolled in the Windows Insider Program and, if I am, under what Microsoft account.

HipKat

Jun 17, 2026

I read all that stuff, and I feel like blah blah, whatever. I use Windows about 40% of the time now, for work-related things I need Windows for, and none of that stuff affects anything I do. And that includes web browsing and posting forums just like this one.
As for Insider Program, have you checked in Windows Update under the Insider tab to make sure? That's where you join and leave the program

harshness

Jun 17, 2026

HipKat said:
As for Insider Program, have you checked in Windows Update under the Insider tab to make sure? That's where you join and leave the program

That's where it shows that I'm part of the program. One must log into the associated Microsoft account to opt out of the program.

Many, if not most, users have access to only one computer and can't fall back on another for their secure transactions.

I maintain a Windows 10 machine specifically to do my income taxes.

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Bruno

Thursday at 12:04 AM

HipKat said:
Why not Win 11?? Why stick with an OS that's losing support?? Win 11 isn't my main OS, but it's not the boogieman people said it was when it first came out

I did order a new Win11 machine for my office. My old Win10 does meet the requirements to upgrade to Win11, and will move it to my bedroom that will replace a win7 that was really old and really slow.

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comfortably_numb

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Last reply Today at 1:11 AM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

Umbrella base for pole to fit antenna

I'm still experimenting with OTA antennas at my new apartment. The mudflap works OK, but we had a dust/wind/rain storm the other day and it all but blew it away. I moved it indoors where the antenna is safer but the signals are marginal.

I bought a traditional Yagi antenna from Amazon and it seems to work more consistently, plus it's meant for outdoors where the mudflap is not.

Anyway, I've had success using umbrella bases paired with a fence post for satellite dishes, and I figured that could work for this as well. I'm just not sure where or what to get and what size pole for this application.

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TRG

May 27, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
I'm still experimenting with OTA antennas at my new apartment. The mudflap works OK, but we had a dust/wind/rain storm the other day and it all but blew it away. I moved it indoors where the antenna is safer but the signals are marginal.

I bought a traditional Yagi antenna from Amazon and it seems to work more consistently, plus it's meant for outdoors where the mudflap is not.

Anyway, I've had success using umbrella bases paired with a fence post for satellite dishes, and I figured that could work for this as well. I'm just not sure where or what to get and what size pole for this application.

View attachment 191342 View attachment 191343

Go to Home Depot and buy a length of "Top Rail" used in making chain link fences. I used a 10' section to mount my Winegard which is probably 4X the size of the yagi you bought from Amazon. It's been up for 15+ years of NM springtime winds and storms with no issues. They make 2 sizes. 1 3/8" and 1 5/8" diameter. Do you have a balcony railing you can clamp to?

BTW does that antenna do VHF HI or is it just UHF?

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comfortably_numb

May 27, 2026

TRG said:
BTW does that antenna do VHF HI or is it just UHF?

It does great on VHF. KOAT and KQRE come in good outside

https://a.co/d/07E4fhdg

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TRG

May 27, 2026

I'm pretty sure this is what I used. Dang, the prices sure have gone up. I think I paid $8 15 years ago. :eeek

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Chain-Link-Fence-1-3-8-in-Diameter-x-10-ft-Long-17-Gauge-Thick-Galvanized-Steel-Top-Rail-Post-328913DPTEB/312373065

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comfortably_numb

May 27, 2026

TRG said:
I'm pretty sure this is what I used. Dang, the prices sure have gone up. I think I paid $8 15 years ago.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Chain-Link-Fence-1-3-8-in-Diameter-x-10-ft-Long-17-Gauge-Thick-Galvanized-Steel-Top-Rail-Post-328913DPTEB/312373065

I suppose PVC would probably work also?

Foxbat

May 28, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
I suppose PVC would probably work also?

TRG said:
Yeah, I guess so. I've never tried that though. I'd be concerned with UV deterioration from the NM sun. Some PVC may be UV resistant. I just don't know.

I would be concerned with the heat and its effect on bending of the PVC. I would think at the 1-1/2" O.D. even Schedule 80 wouldn't be stiff enough to prevent movement in a strong wind. It might be too much movement and deteriorate ATSC reception if it's much more than 4' long.

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comfortably_numb

May 29, 2026

What is the stuff installers use to seal the area around coax point of entry? The Comcast guy used it to seal his RG6 run for broadband. I want to do that for my antenna line..

It's like a clear plastic goo that hardens in a short period of time

primestar31

May 29, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
What is the stuff installers use to seal the area around coax point of entry? The Comcast guy used it to seal his RG6 run for broadband. I want to do that for my antenna line..

It's like a clear plastic goo that hardens in a short period of time

It's called "Coax-Seal". I keep a couple rolls, as it always comes in handy.

Amazon.com

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dfergie

May 29, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
What is the stuff installers use to seal the area around coax point of entry? The Comcast guy used it to seal his RG6 run for broadband. I want to do that for my antenna line..

It's like a clear plastic goo that hardens in a short period of time

I use RTV.

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Brct203

May 29, 2026

Foxbat said:
I would be concerned with the heat and its effect on bending of the PVC. I would think at the 1-1/2" O.D. even Schedule 80 wouldn't be stiff enough to prevent movement in a strong wind. It might be too much movement and deteriorate ATSC reception if it's much more than 4' long.

For what it's worth, I've been using a piece of 1-1/4 white PVC well pipe to mount a 90cm dish to a 4x4 post as a temporary mount. Almost 9 years later it's still there and has not degraded in the sun (CT sun might not be as harsh as in NM, but still, that thing is in the sun for most of the day)

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comfortably_numb

May 29, 2026

One of my coworkers found a 6-foot piece of top rail in the garage today.

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dennispap

Today at 1:11 AM

comfortably_numb said:
It does great on VHF. KOAT and KQRE come in good outside

https://a.co/d/07E4fhdg

I saw your post and I bought the exact antenna hoping to get, specifically, the vhf stations near me but it didn't work.

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Bruce

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Last reply Yesterday at 11:35 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Satellite now under 5 Million subscribers/Sling under 2 Million.

With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

DISH & Sling TV Lost Over 366,000 TV Subscribers In Just 3 Months | Cord Cutters News

EchoStar Corporation, the owner of the DISH Network satellite television service and the Sling TV streaming platform, continued to experience steep declines in its pay-television customer base during the first three months of 2026. The company reported a net loss of approximately 366,000 pay-TV...

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Scott Greczkowski

Jun 15, 2026

I think the way we will see things go (my crystal ball) is Dish will buy DIRECTV and then Elon will buy Dish.

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Bruce

Jun 15, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I think the way we will see things go (my crystal ball) is Dish will buy DIRECTV and then Elon will buy Dish.

Why would Musk even want them?

Why would anyone pay anything for two providers that lose a million or more subscribers every year each?

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charlesrshell

Yesterday at 9:54 PM

Bruce said:
Why would Musk even want them?

Why would anyone pay anything for two providers that lose a million or more subscribers every year each?

Maybe Elon thinks satellite TV will do a come back. I bet he has a Hopper 3 and loves it. Apps keep going up on prices and you need more than one app to see everything you want to see. I think Satellite is the way to go.

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 10:05 PM

If they could just get the dish size down

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dishdude

Yesterday at 10:22 PM

telstar_1 said:
If they could just get the dish size down

They're back down to the 20" Dish 500

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:20 PM

I thought 19".

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charlesrshell

Yesterday at 11:35 PM

navychop said:
I thought 19".

Here is a list of Dish reflector sizes I made up long time ago. I think it is still accurate.

Dish Reflector Size.pdf 203 KB

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Yesterday at 10:32 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

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tornado

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 9:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Multi view comes to Hopper Plus and snowy 4 Receivers!

My Joey 4 is installed on a bedroom tv.

The diamond buttons had been reset.

I thought this was unusual.

I had to reprogram the double diamond button for PIP which I watch.

No problem.

PIP feature on the Joey 4 had been used to watch two channels at once which I thought was the limitation being only two channels vs.Hopper 3's multi-view four channels.

This time when I selected the PIP feature I noticed an option for Multi-View?

Could this be?

Yes it could.

This software update does this.

Multi-view PIP (4 channels) Is Now Available on Joey 4.

This is freaking awesome and very surprising!!!

Very wonderful for me.

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jsmit86

Jun 17, 2026

I got the Multi-view update for my Joey4s yesterday.
Works great.
Is there some other change? Or more to come?

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Scott Greczkowski

Jun 17, 2026

jsmit86 said:
I got the Multi-view update for my Joey4s yesterday.
Works great.
Is there some other change? Or more to come?

Unfortunately do to NDA's I can't discuss beta features until they are released to the public. But lets just say the DISH team is doing some amazing work.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 5:08 PM

Received this e-mail 3 days ago... At the bottom, it says limited to one Multi-view session per household. How does it work if someone had Hopper 3, Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Wired Joey 4 and a Wireless Joey 4 for example? Can they all do Multi-view session at the same time?

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navychop

Yesterday at 5:45 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Unfortunately due to NDA's I can't discuss beta features until they are released to the public. But lets just say the DISH team is doing some amazing work.

Is there an estimated Amazing Date when we might see the results of this Amazing Work?

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charlesrshell

Yesterday at 5:48 PM

Almighty1 said:
Received this e-mail 3 days ago... At the bottom, it says limited to one Multi-view session per household. How does it work if someone had Hopper 3, Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Wired Joey 4 and a Wireless Joey 4 for example? Can they all do Multi-view session at the same time?

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I have all them there models. I know for sure they all have multi-view, but I have not tried them all out at the same time. Wife has the H3+ in use right now. I will try it out tomorrow & report back.

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 7:23 PM

Seems confusing; 4k Joey does 4k but Joey 4 does not...

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Bobby

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

telstar_1 said:
Seems confusing; 4k Joey does 4k but Joey 4 does not...

It's pretty much the reverse of that.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:37 PM

My 4K Joey has played 4K, just not 4K HDR.

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jokeworm

Last reply Yesterday at 8:43 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's for dinner ?

Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !

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Former member 208119

Jan 17, 2026

salmon with garlic lemon butter sauce and asparagus

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Former member 208119

Feb 8, 2026

meatloaf stuffed with my home made hot chilli smashed taters green beans

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TRG

Jun 5, 2026

Shredded beef and bean stuffed sopapilla with red and green chile.

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TRG

Jun 16, 2026

Enchiladas. 1 red chile beef, 1 green chile chicken and 1 chile con queso served with papas and beans.

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TRG

Yesterday at 8:43 PM

Shared an assortment of taco's for taco Tuesday. Didn't share the Mexican lager. That was for me.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Yesterday at 8:25 PM · posted in TV Shows

Stuart Fails to Save the Universe (HBO Max)

View: https://youtu.be/gnmc33Y55YI?si=DJWcR7FubtD-TpYJ

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teachsac

May 17, 2026

Premiere: July 23rd

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KAB

May 18, 2026

My current one month of HBO ends today. Maybe I'll check it out late summer/fall.

cpalmer2k

May 18, 2026

It seems like Big Bang Theory characters were dropped into the Walking Dead?

navychop

May 18, 2026

Well, it's part of my $39/$50 DTV MyEntertainment subscription. So we'll likely give it a try.

Watching the Young Sheldon discs we bought. Transfer was well done.

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teachsac

Yesterday at 8:25 PM

Preview

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WALLYWOMBAT

Last reply Yesterday at 7:31 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 and green bar

Recently had a Hopper 3 installed and noticed that I have a green bar at the top of my screen, also occasionally a thin green line on the right side. I have tried switching hdmi ports on the tv as well as different cables. My only thought is that it is the age of the TV. Thoughts and suggestions?

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WALLYWOMBAT

Monday at 2:51 PM

Tried the Adjust Screen settings and the green bar was still present. Did have a random day when the green bar was gone, but it came back. Did look at the TV setting and found I could stretch the screen a little where the green bar was gone, but it does cut off things across the edges of the picture slightly. Likely will start shopping for a new TV as mine is close to 20 years old and the Dis Remote doesn't seem to like the TV.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

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Bobby

Monday at 3:35 PM

WALLYWOMBAT said:
Tried the Adjust Screen settings and the green bar was still present. Did have a random day when the green bar was gone, but it came back. Did look at the TV setting and found I could stretch the screen a little where the green bar was gone, but it does cut off things across the edges of the picture slightly. Likely will start shopping for a new TV as mine is close to 20 years old and the Dis Remote doesn't seem to like the TV.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Yeah, 20 years is a good time for retirement. You can get a nice new 4K/HDR TV for a very reasonable price even for large ones.

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navychop

Monday at 7:15 PM

And they will self adjust to report your viewing habits and ….

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MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 4:44 PM

WALLYWOMBAT said:
Tried the Adjust Screen settings and the green bar was still present. Did have a random day when the green bar was gone, but it came back. Did look at the TV setting and found I could stretch the screen a little where the green bar was gone, but it does cut off things across the edges of the picture slightly. Likely will start shopping for a new TV as mine is close to 20 years old and the Dis Remote doesn't seem to like the TV.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

I suggest you get an LG Oled 4k TV. You will love the picture on this thing from all angles in the room. The picture is the best I've seen ever. I have the B 3 series 55 inch TV and it was on sale in the fall of 2024 for like $749.00 - because they sell off their older models when they reach end of year.

I even bought one for my parents. They had a huge living room and sit at the weirdest angles with their furniture and the viewing angle was a problem using just about any TV we tried, but not with the LG Oled Tv. They love the picture. Walmart sells them and so does Amazon.

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dishrich

Yesterday at 7:31 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
Walmart sells them and so does Amazon.

So does Costco & Sam's Club - & both places give an extended 5-year warranty at no extra charge

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