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Any news on a fix for the OTA problem with the 443 software for the 622's? I've lost most of my OTA's. The ones that were in the high 90's previously are the only ones still coming in without problems (They're in the 70's now). Any channel that had a signal strength in the 80's or low 90's is either sporadic or a lost signal.
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Ok now this is just my opinion based on... well... something I can't see. But I think you've described pretty well so here goes.
#1 Using an 80" yagi for stations that are actually really close, you might actually have too much gain. That may sound dumb, but in this case it really could be that you're getting too much of a good thing. Try angling your antenna slightly OFF from being pointed directly at the towers that are closest.
--#1a. Seeing a "lost signal" message while the signal strength is still indicating plenty of signal could be an indication of the above, but it could also be true that the signal strength indicator is just lagging and the sampling intervals are not catching a signal dropout
#2 Your TV not having problems when the satellite receiver apparently does have problems, sounds to me like your TV's tuner is better than the satellite tuner at figuring out multipath. Not surprising. I'm certain that my panasonic plasma's tuner is better than the 622's OTA tuner, but .... I have it working fine anyways. And I did have to tweak my antenna for the 622 when I went from being directly connected to the TV, to running OTA through the 622.
I'm not doubting what you're seeing. There's obviously an issue somewhere. And I'm certainly no antenna expert. I'm just an old guy that has more experience with antennas than satellite dishes
And I know I keep coming back to multipath issues, but that's what this sounds like to me. That, or too much gain. I am assuming that you've checked all connections and connection hardware, made sure the cables were stripped correctly with a proper length stinger and all that stuff. I am also assuming that since you've used 50 feet of RG6, that this isn't combined with satellite signal anywhere. It's just a straight dedicated antenna cable run to the satellite receiver.
Here are a couple more questions:
Does this happen primarily on one or 2 channels in that tower cluster you're aimed at?
Is there a channel on which this never... or almost never.. happens?
Can you find the output power of the stations on those towers.
If you have a mix of high powered and low powered stations, it could be that the low powered ones are ok whereas the high powered ones, which you would think would give you that much BETTER of a result, are actually, in effect, overpowering the antenna.
actually, if you look at multipath as signal reflecting off of objects and then arriving at the antenna from different directions, and at every-so-slightly different times, then simply aiming it off a bit may, or may not do the trick. We once stuck a yagi into a big metal garbage can and aimed it at the towers. Perfect signal! No, we didn't leave it that way, but... gives you something to work with.
Most people I know have a limited number of options for where they "want" to install their antenna. If they're DIYers then it's usually installed where it's easiest to access. I have learned over the years though that walking the roof with equipment can help you find a "sweet spot" that's better than anywhere else you might be considering. You can have 2 places only 10 feet apart that are really quite different. I have a lot of respect for antenna installers who know what they're doing. It's like a combination of art, science, and skill to install one really well. OTA is different from satellite. Satellite you are aiming at a bird in the sky. If you have line of sight and a solid mount point, it's going to come down to your skill in aiming at that bird. OTA antennas can be amazingly simple, or they can be a bit fussy. I do not envy what stuart628 is going through. It can be maddening. Like... "Why the F*** isn't this just WORKING?". I'm just tossing out ideas from experience. I grew up in a very antenna-oriented household. My dad BUILT antennas from plans he'd found or from plans my older brother came up with ("This should do --this--") Not terribly difficult, but a little different level of skill required than opening a box and assembling and installing. Various 2-way radio things like CB and Ham and TV and..... just lots of antenna stuff.
Hoping my ramblings can give stuart628 some ideas. Despite my sig....this ain't ALWAYS fun. Especially when the wife isn't happy with something. (yeah I have 28 years experience with wife configuration too..... and STILL haven't quite figured out all the fine points)
No, we didn't leave it that way, but... gives you something to work with. Most people I know have a limited number of options for where they "want" to install their antenna. If they're DIYers then it's usually installed where it's easiest to access. I have learned over the years though that walking the roof with equipment can help you find a "sweet spot" that's better than anywhere else you might be considering. You can have 2 places only 10 feet apart that are really quite different. I have a lot of respect for antenna installers who know what they're doing. It's like a combination of art, science, and skill to install one really well. OTA is different from satellite. Satellite you are aiming at a bird in the sky. If you have line of sight and a solid mount point, it's going to come down to your skill in aiming at that bird. OTA antennas can be amazingly simple, or they can be a bit fussy. I do not envy what stuart628 is going through. It can be maddening. Like... "Why the F*** isn't this just WORKING?". I'm just tossing out ideas from experience. I grew up in a very antenna-oriented household. My dad BUILT antennas from plans he'd found or from plans my older brother came up with ("This should do --this--") Not terribly difficult, but a little different level of skill required than opening a box and assembling and installing. Various 2-way radio things like CB and Ham and TV and..... just lots of antenna stuff.
Hoping my ramblings can give stuart628 some ideas. Despite my sig....this ain't ALWAYS fun.
Especially when the wife isn't happy with something. (yeah I have 28 years experience with wife configuration too..... and STILL haven't quite figured out all the fine points)
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.
. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.
. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.
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