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But all the hoop-da-la over national HD channels is just that: hoop-da-la. The average person would like more HD channels sure. But what do they watch the most? Thier local network affiliates. Just about every other house in my neighborhood has a sattelite dish on it. At the begining of the year most of these dishes were E*. Now most are D*. Why? Because long before D* came out with additional HD channels they made the smart move and offered the local stations in HD. It started a stampede. I hate to say it but my own son went over. I'm just not ready to throw 9 years and countless thousands of dollars on equiptment out the window just yet but if E* does not start coming through with their promises of more local Hd then I don't see another choice. My sister-in-law joined the direct crowd today. If direct can do it with locals why can't Dish? We are in the top 50 market by the way.
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Hall
Dish offers HD locals in 30+ cities. Maybe you live in one of those....

EKB: Dish HD Locals

Dish offers SD locals in 180+ markets so far and away, the vast majority of their customers do NOT have access to HD locals (well, if you go by population of those cities it might be different).
mattopia
Interesting discussion...

I'm switching from cable to E*, installation set for this week. The biggest downer is that my market (Cleveland, OH) has no locals in HD yet. So, I will only be able to record one local in HD at a time.

But, I see a "plus" on the flipside... I can record one HD and two SD locals all at once, for a total of 3! It's unfortunate that I will have to pick and choose which programs I want in HD, but I"m sure in most cases there will be a clear winner.

I also may keep my TiVo series3 for OTA recording, meaning I can record three OTA and two satellite programs at once... Just sounds like a nightmare to manage. I can see my girlfriend asking "Now, do we record Heroes on the TiVo or on the Dish box? Which input is that again? "
Hall
But, I see a "plus" on the flipside... I can record one HD and two SD locals all at once, for a total of 3! It's unfortunate that I will have to pick and choose which programs I want in HD, but I"m sure in most cases there will be a clear winner.
You're rather optimistic on that ! :D To be honest, that's a "negative", not a plus. If Dish offered your locals in HD and you kept your OTA antenna, you could record (3) HD shows at once, not just (1) ! No having to pick which you want in HD and which in SD in that scenario. We have that negative a few times each week ourselves.
mattopia
You're rather optimistic on that ! :D To be honest, that's a "negative", not a plus. If Dish offered your locals in HD and you kept your OTA antenna, you could record (3) HD shows at once, not just (1) ! No having to pick which you want in HD and which in SD in that scenario. We have that negative a few times each week ourselves.

You're right!!! I should re-phrase. Given my current DVR setup (TiVo Series3 w/ CableCARD), I can record a total of two programs at once -- locals, HD, whatever. So, being able to record 3 at once instead of two is a small plus...

Besides... Don't kill my optimism before I even have my service installed! :)

Did you read most of this discussion? Including this thread?

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-hd-discussions/113397-help-moving.html

Yes, I've become familiar with the concept of "moving" into an area with HD locals. I have some hesitations on doing that, so I need to do my homework first! It just can't be *that* easy... Also, I've read that Dish's locals are mostly "HD Lite"?
digiblur
Yes, I've become familiar with the concept of "moving" into an area with HD locals. I have some hesitations on doing that, so I need to do my homework first! It just can't be *that* easy... Also, I've read that Dish's locals are mostly "HD Lite"?

Yes, believe it or not, it is that easy. I've seen a few folks in my area even do it with the DirecTV HD locals.

Some locals are 1440x1080 but I have seen reports of some new spotbeam LiL's being 1920x1080, not sure how much truth to that there is but I can guarantee the 1440x1080 ones look better than the 544x480i ones ;)
J
Dish offers HD locals in 30+ cities. Maybe you live in one of those....

EKB: Dish HD Locals

Dish offers SD locals in 180+ markets so far and away, the vast majority of their customers do NOT have access to HD locals (well, if you go by population of those cities it might be different).

I get my HD locals via basic ($7 per month) cable. Only downside is I can't DVR them, unless I fork out another $12 a month for the box.

I know it's not an option for everybody, but it's worth looking into if you can't get them via DISH or OTA.
W
Digi, I guess your right. People are moving alright according to last night's announcement by Charlie. Dish is having a hard time retaining customers. According to my experience it's not national HD or dish's receier's, it's because people want a single sourse provider for their TV entertainment which includes their local stations in HD. Not everyone is comfortable with hanging on the fringe of morality and would just rather go to the one that provides what they want. "moving" is not the solution. Just my 2 cents, I could be wrong :)
Ronnie-
Yes, believe it or not, it is that easy. I've seen a few folks in my area even do it with the DirecTV HD locals.

Some locals are 1440x1080 but I have seen reports of some new spotbeam LiL's being 1920x1080, not sure how much truth to that there is but I can guarantee the 1440x1080 ones look better than the 544x480i ones ;)
Thats true, and as has been posted many times, rez is not the be all of PQ.
digiblur
Digi, I guess your right. People are moving alright according to last night's announcement by Charlie. Dish is having a hard time retaining customers. According to my experience it's not national HD or dish's receier's, it's because people want a single sourse provider for their TV entertainment which includes their local stations in HD. Not everyone is comfortable with hanging on the fringe of morality and would just rather go to the one that provides what they want. "moving" is not the solution. Just my 2 cents, I could be wrong :)

Sometimes people confuse me, I can care less if people stay as subs or not. I don't have their service nor do I need it right now. I have too much HD to keep up with via OTA already.

I just hate to see people feeding their big HDTV's some SD signals, so I tell them to research the "moving" aspect of things. Of course it isn't for everyone, but many folks have proven time and time again that works great. Even DirecTV folks do it.

It seems to me that it would be easier to make a 10 minute phone call then having to call them anyways to cancel then take two days off from work to get another provider installed.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
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T
It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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S
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
N
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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ppappas
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
B
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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