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eacalhoun
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems that record or timers commands could be made simpler. The single/dual mode settings plus the Record Plus settings don't seem to provide the options I desire. I know what I WANT my DVR to do, but it seems I must "go around the world" for it to work. Both my TV1 and TV2 are used an equal amount -- wife and I share few TV interests. DISH documentation suggests that I enable dual mode and disable TV1 or TV2 under Record Plus, given my households viewing scenario. I have many DVR timer events and I don't want them to affect my wife's Live TV viewing nor mine. Therefore, I go to TV1 and create a set of timers and do the same at TV2. I have many events set to record at the same time on different channels. So, I juggle this while trying to avoid TV1 and TV2's Live viewing time. To make this simpler, why can't DISH DVRs offer the same choice--all of the time--as when one hits the record button while watching live TV, which is selecting TV1 or TV2? Why can't this same choice be given when I advance through the program guide and press SELECT on a future program? This would enable easy timer setup from just ONE TV, instead running between TV1 and TV2. THEN, if I encounter a conflict (where both TVs are recording at a particular time) I will see the "resolve" screen, which I don't really understand. The options on this screen don't really seem to provide a resolution.

Thanks for hearing me ask AND vent.

Eric
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I'm brand new to Dish, and so far, this is part of my chief problem with it. I had my wife DVR a football game yesterday, and got home before the end. Well, then, I wanted to catch the end of another big game. Couldn't, as with Comcast, change to a different channel, while taping, without ending the recording. That will take some getting used to, for sure. I understand more, at least, after reading this thread, though. This is a HD DVR, and it goes to my wife's TV for the second TV. So, do I need to switch somehow to single TV, then I can change channels?

Maybe even more importantly, is some Sundays. That is the time I will utilize my PIP. What I'm reading on the channel cards they gave me is that PIP can only be done if you also switch the Single TV. My wife will love that, on Sundays. Do I understand this correctly, that her TV will then have no picture? Or, will it be hers will be on one of the same channels I'm watching.

This is the major drawback, for me. I just wish I knew how this would work, before I decided how I wanted my Dish setup run. Matter of fact, before I decided I even wanted Dish. They don't exactly offer these kind of details up front.
Walker1
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems that record or timers commands could be made simpler. The single/dual mode settings plus the Record Plus settings don't seem to provide the options I desire. I know what I WANT my DVR to do, but it seems I must "go around the world" for it to work. Both my TV1 and TV2 are used an equal amount -- wife and I share few TV interests. DISH documentation suggests that I enable dual mode and disable TV1 or TV2 under Record Plus, given my households viewing scenario. I have many DVR timer events and I don't want them to affect my wife's Live TV viewing nor mine. Therefore, I go to TV1 and create a set of timers and do the same at TV2. I have many events set to record at the same time on different channels. So, I juggle this while trying to avoid TV1 and TV2's Live viewing time. To make this simpler, why can't DISH DVRs offer the same choice--all of the time--as when one hits the record button while watching live TV, which is selecting TV1 or TV2? Why can't this same choice be given when I advance through the program guide and press SELECT on a future program? This would enable easy timer setup from just ONE TV, instead running between TV1 and TV2. THEN, if I encounter a conflict (where both TVs are recording at a particular time) I will see the "resolve" screen, which I don't really understand. The options on this screen don't really seem to provide a resolution.

Thanks for hearing me ask AND vent.

Eric

I have the 722 and although it has its quirks it is by far the best DVR I've ever had. It's a workhorse with tons of HD space and always does what I want it to. You probably will need a 2nd unit as you use TV 2 so much.
Z
I'm brand new to Dish, and so far, this is part of my chief problem with it. I had my wife DVR a football game yesterday, and got home before the end. Well, then, I wanted to catch the end of another big game. Couldn't, as with Comcast, change to a different channel, while taping, without ending the recording. That will take some getting used to, for sure. I understand more, at least, after reading this thread, though. This is a HD DVR, and it goes to my wife's TV for the second TV. So, do I need to switch somehow to single TV, then I can change channels?

Maybe even more importantly, is some Sundays. That is the time I will utilize my PIP. What I'm reading on the channel cards they gave me is that PIP can only be done if you also switch the Single TV. My wife will love that, on Sundays. Do I understand this correctly, that her TV will then have no picture? Or, will it be hers will be on one of the same channels I'm watching.

This is the major drawback, for me. I just wish I knew how this would work, before I decided how I wanted my Dish setup run. Matter of fact, before I decided I even wanted Dish. They don't exactly offer these kind of details up front.

Yes you understand correctly. In Single mode she will see what you see.
1 button on the front panel (model depending I guess) will change from single to dual. I share mine with my daughter and do this frequently when there are several hockey games or game/show that I don't want to miss.
Say Heroes is recording and hockey starts 30 minutes in, I hit the button for single mode, swap, let heroes finish recording while I watch the game (forcing my daughter to as well) and then put it back in dual when the recording has finished.
I'm not familiar with Comcast, but for all intensive purposes it's just like having a VCR. You couldn't change the channel when you were taping a movie to the VCR until it was finished.
I am curious about how Comcast let you keep recording when you changed the channel. Dual tuner with single mode out only??
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Yes you understand correctly. In Single mode she will see what you see.
1 button on the front panel (model depending I guess) will change from single to dual. I share mine with my daughter and do this frequently when there are several hockey games or game/show that I don't want to miss.
Say Heroes is recording and hockey starts 30 minutes in, I hit the button for single mode, swap, let heroes finish recording while I watch the game (forcing my daughter to as well) and then put it back in dual when the recording has finished.
I'm not familiar with Comcast, but for all intensive purposes it's just like having a VCR. You couldn't change the channel when you were taping a movie to the VCR until it was finished.
I am curious about how Comcast let you keep recording when you changed the channel. Dual tuner with single mode out only??

It was a dual tuner DVR setup, of some sort. I didn't notice until Dish was removing the Comcast box, there is a metal box in the back that says Dual DVR. That must be it.

As far as VCR days, I NEVER had a setup like that. I ALWAYS had capability to tape one channel, and watch another. So, this resriction would be like the dark ages, for me.

It's good the wife at least gets some picture, then. She already has heard the bad news, and knows she can go elsewhere in the house on sports days.;)
Z
Yes so basically you have the same setup as the comcast box with the dish box.. BUT you now have dual out as well, running two tv's.
You can either make her live with watching your game when you need both tuners, or you could get a second box for her TV, DVR or not depending on your needs. This would also give you back both tuners all the time, and she wouldn't have to suffer.. :D
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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