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zapitgud

Last reply Nov 20, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

HD DVR install questions/problems

Hi, I have a couple questions about installation. I am getting the HD DVR, connected to only one television. So, what hardware will be getting installed? Am I correct in thinking that it would be the 1000+ dish, with a DP44 switch and a VIP 722 box?

The reason I am asking is that the installer had some problems yesterday. He had the VIP 722 box. Based on pictures I've seen here and at dishnetwork.com the actual dish is a 1000+, although he told me it was a 500+. It has the LNB in the middle and one on each side.

Now when he was trying to go through the setup, it would bring in the 110 and 119 satellites with 105 signal strength, then he would switch to the 129 satellite and it was 0, it never got any signal at all. I noticed on the screen that it said DP34. Everything I found online says you have to use the DP44 if it's the 1000+. So, how can I find out for sure what dish it is? Am I correct in thinking that if he hooked up a DP34 to a 1000+ dish that it would work, just wouldn't pull in the 129 satellite?

Also, when we turn on the 722 it defaults to dual mode even though nothing is hooked up in the TV2 output. It also won't let us switch to single mode unless you are on the screen that shows TV1 and TV2 where you select over the air, or cable (not sure what the screen was called).

Finally, neither of the remotes will work. However, if I go to the system info screen and press a button on the TV2 remote the little TV icon flashes when you press buttons. Any ideas on why the remotes won't work?

The installer is coming out again tomorrow, and I really want to get this finished and working. Any help would be appreciated.

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zapitgud

Nov 16, 2007

Thanks guys, I'll get the ethernet hooked up to avoid the fee for sure.

The installer didn't go through any setup for the remotes, so I'll look it up in the manual and go through the setup to see if it fixes the remotes. He said they didn't need setup, I really think he's just not very familiar with the receiver.

Of course the main problem is that it won't pickup the 129 satellite, hopefully he can get it working saturday.

vegassatellite

Nov 17, 2007

DPP44 only needs one wire to 722 when using a separator at the receiver. The receiver includes one in the packaging, so should be no problem. The power inserter can go right by the receiver. Technically, it can go inline at any point between the receiver and the switch. It can also be installed on its own line that doesn't have a receiver. I would not install the power inserter outside as it isn't in a weatherproof housing. Switch can be outside. Make sure all cables going into the switch come from below. You don't want water dripping down the coax and into the connectors.

zapitgud

Nov 18, 2007

It'll be easy to put the power inserter in my media closet. Thanks for all the help guys, I'll let you know how the install goes tomorrow.

Jordan420

Nov 18, 2007

Make sure the installer puts the power inserter is on PORT #1 on the DPP44!

Keep an eye on him, it's obvious he has no idea what he is doing.

steve4810

Nov 18, 2007

zapitgud said:
Thanks guys, I'll get the ethernet hooked up to avoid the fee for sure.

The installer didn't go through any setup for the remotes, so I'll look it up in the manual and go through the setup to see if it fixes the remotes. He said they didn't need setup, I really think he's just not very familiar with the receiver.

Of course the main problem is that it won't pickup the 129 satellite, hopefully he can get it working saturday.

Ten to one he has it pointed too far east and is getting the 119 bird on the 129 LNB and the 110 bird on the 119 LNB and the 110 LNB is aimed at zip.

BTW, that plus what you said about remotes not working leads me to say that this guy isn't sharpest knife in the drawer and you may either have to learn more than him and hold his hand through this or call for another installer. I'd say something like "This is a really nice guy and it could just be me but I think he is getting this all messed up and I sure don't want to have to deal with Dish over this so can you just send another guy to check out his work?" and "If I'm wrong I'll apologize to him but I got to do what I think is right."

zapitgud

Nov 20, 2007

well, where do I start?
Last night the installer was out at my house from 5pm to 11pm getting the Dish lined up correctly after adding the new DPP44 switch. It was a pain to get the 129 and 118 satellites, he would barely move it and it would spike up to 88 signal for a brief second, then to 0. Finally we got it locked in with about 60 on teh 129 and 118 satellites, and 100 or so on the 119 and 110. So, I'm happy with the effort the installer went through to get this working, now on to Dish customer service.

I originally signed up for dish through dishnetwork.com. The installer came out and said he couldn't do Chimney mounts, so I called and cancelled the account. A couple days later I found the local retailer/installer that would do the chimney mount. So, after all the install problems we finally got all satellites in the green. Time to get the receiver authorized. It took no less than 10 calls over the past 5 days to get the account setup. When the installer was out last thursday, he said that it wouldn't let him submit the new account online since the old account was showing up, even though it was cancelled. He tried calling multiple times over the past few days and Customer service always ended the calls with "It should be setup now" or something to that effect.

Last night after everything was lined up and ready to go, he called them again. For some reason they couldn't get it to work so he said he would call again today. He called me this morning and told me he tried again and dish said that the credit card was declined, I knew this was Bullsh!t, but I just gave him another card, they said it was declined also. Now I've been pretty patient through the whole install, and I'm determined to get Dish working now even after the installer offered to remove it all and put up Directv. So, I first tried the online chat; useless. They had no clue how to fix it. So, I called in and finally got someone that understood that he couldn't fix the problem so he transferred me to Executive Services or something like that.

Finally the girl that I got apparently knew what she was doing, she called the retailer and got all my information, and after being on hold for 20 minutes or so, she came back and said I was good to go. I headed home from work to check it out, and sure enough it's working now (well mostly). I start looking through the channels and notice that I don't get Showtime/HBO or my local channels. Called the retailer and she called dish for me and got my local channels working. I still don't have Showtime and HBO but I should be able to call and get them turned on this afternoon.

Also, I hooked up the ethernet connection and it's working fine. The only problem now other than Showtime and HBO is that the IR Remote doesn't work. I got the TV2 RF remote to work by changing to Single Mode (it was defaulting to Dual Mode).

If I wasn't so fed up with Time Warner Cable, I wouldn't have gone through all this hassle, hopefully now that it's working, it'll be worth it.

Sorry for the long post, just figured I would update the guys that were helping me out.

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Bruce

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Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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dishstaller

Today at 10:18 AM

Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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savarese04

Today at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

dishdude

6 minutes ago

savarese04 said:
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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Juan

Yesterday at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:47 AM

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

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Juan

Yesterday at 1:38 PM

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

Yesterday at 2:22 PM

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

Juan

Yesterday at 3:07 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much

dishstaller

Yesterday at 3:13 PM

Juan said:
.a bag...not much

Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

Juan

Today at 7:13 AM

dishstaller said:
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

NYDutch

Today at 7:44 AM

Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.

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harshness

Today at 9:21 AM

NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.

Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

Jimbo

Today at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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dishstaller

Today at 10:09 AM

Juan said:
but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...

Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you

Juan

37 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you

None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime

dishstaller

13 minutes ago

Juan said:
None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime

I can't BELIEVE this is being such a difficult subject. The issue isn't the price....it's the advertised price per ounce. A lot of shoppers, myself included, use the price per ounce in determining which is the better value....with that number being inaccurate, it can trick someone into thinking that one product cost less per ounce than a competing product. Is this a crime?...above my pay grade. Is it dishonest? Yes.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 18 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Country singer John Anderson died today

He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.

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mikew

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.

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dishstaller

Today at 12:02 AM

mikew said:
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.

That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.

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dfergie

Today at 7:44 AM

R.I.P. I thought he was older…

Mr Tony

36 minutes ago

R.I.P.
Got a few songs on my 'setup' (old cell phone with music) that I can listen to while working

slow_poke_pete

26 minutes ago

RIP

KE4EST

18 minutes ago

dfergie said:
R.I.P. I thought he was older…

Same here. I thought he was older......RIP

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 27 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Strega

Yesterday at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:02 PM

Strega said:
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

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Bobby

Yesterday at 8:30 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

someone is showing their age

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:38 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:03 PM

I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

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llokey

Today at 6:51 AM

Bobby said:
In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.

And I kept them working through the ESS offices.

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Bobby

Today at 11:19 AM

llokey said:
And I kept them working through the ESS offices.

The two central offices in the area I worked were actually step by step offices.

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Almighty1

Today at 12:03 PM

dishstaller said:
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

Speaking about cords, I actually did drop a Trimline phone from probably 3 feet high on the floor when I was about 10 or so and it caused a small crack, this was the one with the modular jacks and it was hooked up with I think a 50 ft or longer RJ11C cable from Radio Shack. I still use the phone today connected to a Obi VoIP adapter and the cord is my custom made 6 position RJ11C, not sure of the official name for it without looking it up and Belden MediaTwist Crescent shaped Cat6+ cable.

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slow_poke_pete

29 minutes ago

Almighty1 said:
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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so that persons in hiding lol :biggrin

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slow_poke_pete

27 minutes ago

remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones

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Last reply Today at 12:39 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

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Offline Records
Engr Records
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@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
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coolman302003

Yesterday at 6:51 PM

League Pass tonight for example (it is almost a full slate tonight):
Hawks @ Magic (only Hawks feed which is easy to insert since its OTA this season and simulcast across multiple Gray Television markets, Magic signed a non- exclusive streaming deal with DAZN and also OTA)
Bucks @ Wizards (only Wizards feed easy to remap, Bucks are OTA & there own streaming service Bucks+)
Hornets @ Nets (only Nets feed which DirecTV already carries so simply YES remap, Hornets signed non-exclusive streaming deal with DAZN, also OTA)
Bulls @ Raptors (Bulls only feed via CHSN remap, its common that we don't get Raptors feeds that often)
Jazz @ Grizzlies (Jazz only feed OTA easy to insert, Grizzlies signed streaming deal with DAZN)
Pacers @ Pelicans (Pelicans only feed which is OTA easy to insert, Pacers signed streaming deal with DAZN)

Maybe it will change but it looks like DirecTV may only carry DAZN feeds on NBA LP when there is no other option, such as when two teams (either Cavaliers, Pacers, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Spurs) that are both DAZN exclusive are playing each other, we shall see as the season goes on I guess.

This NBA season will be the first in a long time where many League Pass games are carried on feeds DirecTV doesn't normally carry or are only available through OTA spot beams. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, especially whether we eventually get both home and away feeds for these teams out of market again.

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jamieh1

Yesterday at 8:24 PM

Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

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KyL416

Yesterday at 9:33 PM

jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.

Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

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cp2k

Today at 10:02 AM

KyL416 said:
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.