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Last reply Jul 28, 2004 · posted in Old YAHOOGROUPS - VOOM! Archives

Re: [VOOM] Voom gains 2 satellite orbits

WOW! I feel lucky to be one of the 8,000!

As of April 23, Voom had only 8,000 subscriber homes

Thats very low!

--- bradley <bradley.1a2whk@nobody.satelliteguys.us>
wrote:
>
> Voom gains 2 satellite orbits
> BY HARRY BERKOWITZ
> STAFF WRITER
>
> July 15, 2004
>
>
> Cablevision Systems Corp. yesterday won the bidding
> for two orbital
> slots that could help fill a gap in its Voom
> nationwide satellite TV
> service. The two orbital positions would allow
> satellites to reach
> mainly the West Coast.
>
> Since Voom launched service in October, its single
> satellite, whose
> orbital position is off the East Coast, has been
> weakest in
> transmitting TV channels to the West Coast,
> especially the Seattle and
> Portland areas.
>
> Cablevision won the two licenses for $3.2 million
> apiece - the minimum
> required bid in the auction by the Federal
> Communications Commission.
>
> Jessica Reif Cohen, a Merrill Lynch analyst, called
> the price a
> "remarkable bargain" based on past auctions.
>
> EchoStar Communications, the nation's second-biggest
> satellite TV
> provider, won the third slot being auctioned, which
> reaches the western
> half of the nation, with a minimum required bid of
> $5.8 million.
>
> Cablevision plans to spin off Jericho-based Voom as
> a separate publicly
> traded company later this year with a budget of $482
> million for 2004,
> even though analysts are skeptical of its prospects
> for success.
>
> Meanwhile, the trade publication Adweek reported
> online that Voom has
> hired the Mullen advertising agency, whose clients
> include General
> Motors and match.com, to replace Lowe, which
> resigned in April after
> Voom said it was reviewing its choice of agencies.
>
> As of April 23, Voom had only 8,000 subscriber
> homes, plus another
> 3,400 in which it was preparing to activate the
> service. EchoStar and
> DirecTV have a combined total of more than 22
> million subscribers.
>
>
> Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.
>
>
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Robert Heitner

Jul 27, 2004

Makes ya wonder how many households have an HDTV set. Think about it, you
can go buy a 27" for $200 (or less for really cheap models) and even 30+
inch sets are under $500. So how many people are going to spend over $1000
(more likely closer to $2K or more) on an HD set. I'd be willing to bet that
only 2 or 3 out 10 sets sold are HD.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Holcombe [mailto:apad0708@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:18 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] Voom gains 2 satellite orbits

WOW! I feel lucky to be one of the 8,000!

As of April 23, Voom had only 8,000 subscriber homes

Thats very low!

--- bradley <bradley.1a2whk@nobody.satelliteguys.us>
wrote:
>
> Voom gains 2 satellite orbits
> BY HARRY BERKOWITZ
> STAFF WRITER
>
> July 15, 2004
>
>
> Cablevision Systems Corp. yesterday won the bidding for two orbital
> slots that could help fill a gap in its Voom nationwide satellite TV
> service. The two orbital positions would allow satellites to reach
> mainly the West Coast.
>
> Since Voom launched service in October, its single satellite, whose
> orbital position is off the East Coast, has been weakest in
> transmitting TV channels to the West Coast, especially the Seattle and
> Portland areas.
>
> Cablevision won the two licenses for $3.2 million apiece - the minimum
> required bid in the auction by the Federal Communications Commission.
>
> Jessica Reif Cohen, a Merrill Lynch analyst, called the price a
> "remarkable bargain" based on past auctions.
>
> EchoStar Communications, the nation's second-biggest satellite TV
> provider, won the third slot being auctioned, which reaches the
> western half of the nation, with a minimum required bid of
> $5.8 million.
>
> Cablevision plans to spin off Jericho-based Voom as a separate
> publicly traded company later this year with a budget of $482 million
> for 2004, even though analysts are skeptical of its prospects for
> success.
>
> Meanwhile, the trade publication Adweek reported online that Voom has
> hired the Mullen advertising agency, whose clients include General
> Motors and match.com, to replace Lowe, which resigned in April after
> Voom said it was reviewing its choice of agencies.
>
> As of April 23, Voom had only 8,000 subscriber homes, plus another
> 3,400 in which it was preparing to activate the service. EchoStar and
> DirecTV have a combined total of more than 22 million subscribers.
>
>
> Copyright ) 2004, Newsday, Inc.
>
>
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berockin1

Jul 28, 2004

[VOOM] Re: Voom gains 2 satellite orbits

What's worse is some who buy HD sets still don't know you have to get
the HD signal. Case in point my upstairs neighbor got a 48' JVC 3
weeks ago, last night I finally met up with him to see it.
He has it hooked up via coax saying he only watches DVD on it b/c the
pic is not that good. And this TV looks nice it has HDMI and
everything. I showed him what he's missing and he going to get the
proper cables and have an HD STB installed from Cablevision... I'ts a
start. I have both VOOM and CV so he's going to use me for the VOOM
viewing LOL

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Heitner" <ddprobert@y...> wrote:
> Makes ya wonder how many households have an HDTV set. Think about
it, you
> can go buy a 27" for $200 (or less for really cheap models) and
even 30+
> inch sets are under $500. So how many people are going to spend
over $1000
> (more likely closer to $2K or more) on an HD set. I'd be willing to
bet that
> only 2 or 3 out 10 sets sold are HD.
>
>

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kfried001

Jul 28, 2004

[VOOM] Re: Voom gains 2 satellite orbits

I think the number of subs would explode if they added local HD
RSN's or SD RSN's where HD is not available and about a dozen SD
channels that are BIG holes. If they can match the standard lineup
of dish and direct minus the shopping and religious programming then
there would be no reason for a consumer not to choose VOOM. I think
they should hold off on the price increases until the sub base
increases. But most of all VOOM needs the missing channels that so
many people have come to rely on. I think people we be willing to
have two providers like Direct TV for the extra sports programming
like NFL ticket, but VOOM better hurry up, most NFL Ticket games are
now in HD, if they add HD RSN's, Cinemax and Starz and a few more HD
channels they may capture the market. I hope VOOM does hurry on
adding the channels or I made a large investment mistake.

Ken

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Heitner" <ddprobert@y...> wrote:
> Makes ya wonder how many households have an HDTV set. Think about
it, you
> can go buy a 27" for $200 (or less for really cheap models) and
even 30+
> inch sets are under $500. So how many people are going to spend
over $1000
> (more likely closer to $2K or more) on an HD set. I'd be willing
to bet that
> only 2 or 3 out 10 sets sold are HD.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Holcombe [mailto:apad0708@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:18 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VOOM] Voom gains 2 satellite orbits
>
> WOW! I feel lucky to be one of the 8,000!
>
> As of April 23, Voom had only 8,000 subscriber homes
>
> Thats very low!
>
>
> --- bradley <bradley.1a2whk@n...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Voom gains 2 satellite orbits
> > BY HARRY BERKOWITZ
> > STAFF WRITER
> >
> > July 15, 2004
> >
> >
> > Cablevision Systems Corp. yesterday won the bidding for two
orbital
> > slots that could help fill a gap in its Voom nationwide
satellite TV
> > service. The two orbital positions would allow satellites to
reach
> > mainly the West Coast.
> >
> > Since Voom launched service in October, its single satellite,
whose
> > orbital position is off the East Coast, has been weakest in
> > transmitting TV channels to the West Coast, especially the
Seattle and
> > Portland areas.
> >
> > Cablevision won the two licenses for $3.2 million apiece - the
minimum
> > required bid in the auction by the Federal Communications
Commission.
> >
> > Jessica Reif Cohen, a Merrill Lynch analyst, called the price a
> > "remarkable bargain" based on past auctions.
> >
> > EchoStar Communications, the nation's second-biggest satellite
TV
> > provider, won the third slot being auctioned, which reaches the
> > western half of the nation, with a minimum required bid of
> > $5.8 million.
> >
> > Cablevision plans to spin off Jericho-based Voom as a separate
> > publicly traded company later this year with a budget of $482
million
> > for 2004, even though analysts are skeptical of its prospects
for
> > success.
> >
> > Meanwhile, the trade publication Adweek reported online that
Voom has
> > hired the Mullen advertising agency, whose clients include
General
> > Motors and match.com, to replace Lowe, which resigned in April
after
> > Voom said it was reviewing its choice of agencies.
> >
> > As of April 23, Voom had only 8,000 subscriber homes, plus
another
> > 3,400 in which it was preparing to activate the service.
EchoStar and
> > DirecTV have a combined total of more than 22 million
subscribers.
> >
> >
> > Copyright ) 2004, Newsday, Inc.
> >
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Dvlos

Jul 28, 2004

Not for nothing but I keep hearing from people that Voom should match Dish and DirectTV in terms of channel offerings and I have to say I disagree to a certain point. I would much rather have Voom add a new HD channel every 4-6 months than have them rush to throw on 40 new SD channels.

Regional Sports Networks are ok, but I don't know if every area is like this but all the major local events, college and bro are broadcast OTA 80% of the time. Some really obscure events like University of Miami versus Loser School isn't. While I would like SCI-FI and USA, HGTV and Noggin for the family.. I would be HAPPIER if Voom added exclusives that offer Sci-Fi programming, home and garden type stuff, and a 2nd kids channel in HD. In other words to complete phase out off SD in my home is more important to me than merely adding channels .. which is why I'm glad I have a seperate OTA antenna, I don't want Voom wasting bandwidth on that.

kfried001

Jul 28, 2004

[VOOM] Re: Voom gains 2 satellite orbits

SD does not need the bandwidth of HD and there are only about a
dozen important SD channels missing from VOOM's lineup plus the
RSN's. I know of many people who do not want multiple services and
are holding out until VOOM gets SCI-FI, G4TechTV, all the Discovery
channels, more Nick channels, RSN's and HGTV (I didn't think anyone
watched that one). So by using a little bandwidth consumers won't
have to make a choice on which sat provider to go with. If VOOM has
all of the important SD channels that D* and E* carry it will be a
no-brainer on which company to go with.

I agree a parallel emphasis needs to be placed on getting more HD
channels like USA-HD, Inhd1, Inhd2, Hdnet and maybe some more
original channels like SCI-FI HD. But unless VOOM can get and afford
licenses for Stargate, Sliders and other SCI-FI shows they need to
get SCI-FI.

I would agree with you about carying just HD programming, but by
adding 80 SD channels so far, VOOM has made it clear that they don't
just want to be an HD provider who provides a HD package like D* and
E*'s. If that were they case, they should drop the price so the
masses can afford two services.

Ken

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Dvlos <Dvlos.1a48mx@n...> wrote:
>
> Not for nothing but I keep hearing from people that Voom should
match
> Dish and DirectTV in terms of channel offerings and I have to say I
> disagree to a certain point. I would much rather have Voom add a
new HD
> channel every 4-6 months than have them rush to throw on 40 new SD
> channels.
>
> Regional Sports Networks are ok, but I don't know if every area is
like
> this but all the major local events, college and bro are broadcast
OTA
> 80% of the time. Some really obscure events like University of
Miami
> versus Loser School isn't. While I would like SCI-FI and USA, HGTV
and
> Noggin for the family.. I would be HAPPIER if Voom added exclusives
> that offer Sci-Fi programming, home and garden type stuff, and a
2nd
> kids channel in HD. In other words to complete phase out off SD in
my
> home is more important to me than merely adding channels .. which
is
> why I'm glad I have a seperate OTA antenna, I don't want Voom
wasting
> bandwidth on that.
>
>
> --
> Dvlos

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New Gemini Box

The following is from Reddit. -
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There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/

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Scott Greczkowski

Oct 23, 2026

I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

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b4pjoe

Oct 23, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

My guess it is like the 2 previous boxes where you can turn it off/on but requires a reboot once you make the change for the change to take effect. Not sure if there is some limitation in the hardware that won't allow it to change automatically to what is in the content like other devices do. Even DIRECTV satellites own C61K changes on the fly.

Tom Speer

Oct 23, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.

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b4pjoe

Oct 23, 2026

Tom Speer said:
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.

I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.

robjlevin

Oct 24, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.

Redbullsnation

5 minutes ago

I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

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Gary Toma

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Last reply 19 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 11/04/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

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jamieh1

Oct 21, 2026

Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

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KyL416

Oct 21, 2026

jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.

Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

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KyL416

Oct 23, 2026

KyL416 said:
The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida

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doctor J

Yesterday at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	266	2	1449
SD mpeg4	144		194
SD mpeg2	433	-1
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	56	18

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Yesterday at 7:23 AM

Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261104.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Yesterday at 7:24 AM

Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago

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KyL416

40 minutes ago

KyL416 said:
WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server

Redbullsnation

19 minutes ago

KyL416 said:
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server

Could be for the Heat since they have the rights to that.

Its always a surprise to see DTV carry subchannels...

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iJustine

36 minutes ago · posted in iJustine

New LIGHT UP Apple Logo! 😍

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

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Tech News Weekly 462

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osu1991

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Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Marvel Television’s VisionQuest

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Oct 14 Disney+

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Foxbat

Oct 14, 2026

James Spader gets the best lines so far. I'm enjoying this series.

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osu1991

Oct 14, 2026

Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.

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Foxbat

Oct 28, 2026

Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd

since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.

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Foxbat

Today at 1:32 PM

I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.

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osu1991

42 minutes ago

annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 54 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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gms49ers

Today at 9:53 AM

The Rain Song - Led Zeppelin

Bobby

Today at 11:19 AM

Wait (The Whisper Song) - Ying Yang Twins

harshness

Today at 11:36 AM

I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz

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Today at 1:11 PM

Shooz - Styx

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54 minutes ago

Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx

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Linus Tech Tips

Today at 12:33 PM · posted in Linus Tech Tips

“Tesla Hater” Finally Tries Full Self Driving

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ewindowman

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Last reply Today at 12:16 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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Bruce

Today at 9:59 AM

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

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Bruce

Today at 11:22 AM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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man00

Today at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Today at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 11:54 AM · posted in TV Shows

Survivor 51

Coming soon…

View: https://youtu.be/KXLSVRsI3pk?is=db1PQX4Kn1vegN5i

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teachsac

Oct 3, 2026

Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.

dfergie

Oct 8, 2026

First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)

dfergie

Oct 9, 2026

Still miss "On Fire" podcasts, found these...

View: https://youtu.be/XhBPqEz8pP8?si=iXn4UuXAcwWAKPFK

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View: https://youtu.be/4vz_xetsX9o?si=hph63mnL_KA-iky4

teachsac

Oct 22, 2026

Loved the tribal

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dfergie

Today at 11:54 AM

Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...

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