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So I DVR "Die Hard"

:confused:on HBO.............Figuring it will be in the proper aspect ratio ( 2.35/1).

Go to watch it and lo and behold...............its filled to fit my screen?.

Is this just a singular instance, or is this what they always do?



I welcome your responses...............:(:eek:
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ripnbigc
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About the only movies I've seen in OAR on HBO are the Star Wars movies.
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JohnL
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ripnbigc said:
About the only movies I've seen in OAR on HBO are the Star Wars movies.
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Rip,

Correct and probably only because Lucas required the HD airing to be OAR.

George Lucas usually gets what he wants.

I grow more and more annoyed at the Anti-OAR people. I don't need my screen filled to the top and bottom of the screen.

I, as well as most TRUE movie lovers want to the see that Film as it was shot, not some lame Pan and Scan format. There are thousands of movies where the PAN and SCAN version ruins a Films original scope and or understanding of those scene(s). Three Prime Examples of Pan and Scan ruining a movie, Road to Perdition, Blade Runner, Apocalypse Now.

There are Thousands of other movies ruined by Pan and Scan as well. If the Pan and Scan removes or alters the meaning of the film then the Directors vision and that Movies experience is RUINED for the viewer.

Whats annoying is that most newer Digital TV's have the ability to allow a viewer to crop the movie to fill the screen, since that is the case then why not show the Movie or Show in its Original Aspect Ratio for the those that like it they get what they want and the others that can't stand the "Black Bars" they can use their STB or Television to zoom or crop the image to fill their screen. Viola, Everybody is happy.

The bottomline is that without broadcasting in OAR you cut all those fans of OAR out of the equation.
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ripnbigc
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I agree totally. Even when I had a 4:3 tv and VHS, I always bought the OAR versions of movies. Pan and Scan ranks right up there with colorization.
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JohnL said:
Whats annoying is that most newer Digital TV's have the ability to allow a viewer to crop the movie to fill the screen, since that is the case then why not show the Movie or Show in its Original Aspect Ratio for the those that like it they get what they want and the others that can't stand the "Black Bars" they can use their STB or Television to zoom or crop the image to fill their screen. Viola, Everybody is happy.
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Thats the part that bugs me. Let the people decide what they want to do. I can only think that the stations that dont do OAR think that the majority of people are too stupid to know how to do it. Unfortunately, maybe in some ways they are right.
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ripnbigc said:
I agree totally. Even when I had a 4:3 tv and VHS, I always bought the OAR versions of movies. Pan and Scan ranks right up there with colorization.
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Growing up in the 80's and early 90's, I rented a lot of VHS tapes from the non-chain movie store (no Blockbuster in my small town). I used to record the movies in LP or SLP mode on my own blank tapes, fitting two to four movies on a 4-6 hour tape. It seemed like everything was pan and scan, and even as a child born in the 70's and 10 years old in 1985, I knew the black bars meant the movie was special, and the way the makers intended it. I remember renting my first widescreen movie on VHS, "Innerspace." I was in love with the true aspect ratio. Like I said, I'd record these movies, 2-4 to a tape, and get the grainy lines and all. Having that true aspect ratio meant so much more to me than even the quality of the recording at the time.

Ahh... the memories... momma used to be out at the bar and I was 12 years old home alone watching all the R rated movies I wanted, building my own library that I would rent out to my friends in middle school.

Having that said, I too don't need my screen filled. I prefer the OAR as well. Currently, I subscribe to HBO, and as I type this I have Blood Diamond (crappy movie as I expected with Leo's horribly phony accent) on in the background on HBO HD that is cropped to fit 16x9. HBO is horrible about pan and scan. They just assume that their viewers want the screen filled. I can't even watch the 14 or so multichannels of HBO (not to mention Cinemax) that are standard def with the black bars on the sides but not the top. If I paid anymore than $10/month for HBO and Cinemax, I'd probably drop them over this P&S crap.

Showtime is better about this. Even on their standard def channels like Showtime Beyond, they air many things in the OAR.

I think all of these channels should maintain the proper aspect ratio, especially the HD variations. This pan and scan crap is getting so old!
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Thats the part that bugs me. Let the people decide what they want to do. I can only think that the stations that dont do OAR think that the majority of people are too stupid to know how to do it. Unfortunately, maybe in some ways they are right.
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The problem is, too many viewers are idiots. Remember, 50+% of HDTV owners hook their new TVs up to analog cable and completely believe that they've got HD. If they read their TV's owners manual, they'd know that they're not. Since they don't read their manual, they don't know what the majority of the buttons on their remote do. All they know is Power On/Off, Chan Up/Down, Vol Up/Down and a few more.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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SuperDish_Fan23
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
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My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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rvvaquero said:
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Hello again

I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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KOQIT receivers

Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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(((Garyd)))
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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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More room for the return of the Plague & Pestilence?

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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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a good surge protector will help to.
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(((Garyd))) said:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
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Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
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Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
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For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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