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LEts see Hall, the 722 came true. I am watching it right now . The external hard drive support came true. I have two externals right now on two of my receivers. The dvr advantage plan came true . My second DISH account has it for top 250 . The 612 didn't premier yet , but I see no reason for a single output dvr since we have the 622 /722 that can do the same thing in single mode.

As to the reason why the satellites haven't been launched yet, and they are ready to go , has been widely talked about. The launch sites that were supposed to launch the satellites had a rocket explosion that put all satellites launches behind. Even Directv has been effected by this and their second sat that will bring more locals has been delayed. Funny you talk about company plans announcements. Directv's latest sat that was launched this year and was supposed to provide hd locals had a failure as well. The national conus beams worked for national channels but not for locals. And yet I don't hear any one screaming about where's my locals ? Although they did screwup and take out the ota tuner in their latest hd receivers - jumped the gun on that one. But yes all companies are subject to "glitches" or unforseen circumstances out of their control.

As to the reason I think we will see those plans come true, Charlie publicly said last month that DISH will launch 3 sats in 2008. One will be the replacement for the 129 sat. HE also said this month that DISH will have 100 hd dmas or cities in 2008 . This goes hand in hand with what was posted they will have with the mpeg4 service. DISH has to compete with more hd. There is no reason that they won't do just that, once the new sats are launched in the spring and the spare sats doing nothing, are moved to new slots. Possibly the new slots at 86.5 and 97 as Scott G. speculated they would use. The fact that Echostar has a VIP service at the 85 slot doing just what CHarlie said they would do with a relaunch of DISH leads me to think that those slots maybe right? Look at the satellite part where they list the 85 slots.

EchoStar ViP-TV™

MikeD-C05 said:

Look at the satellite part where they list the 85 slots.

EchoStar ViP-TV™

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Did anyone catch what they're calling the birds at 85 and 105? There's 2 listed for 85, one of them shows as ViPTV 85, and the other is Echostar XVI as in Echostar 16. At 105 it shows Echostar XV or Echostar 15. What gives?

Anyone remember when Dish first started rolling out the 921 and they had that special deal where you could purchase one of two pretty lame HDTV sets to go along with it? As I recall they announced that at CES, as well as introducing their HD roadshow van which went around the country that year to fairs and tradeshows. That was back in 2003 IIRC.

BoisePaul said:

Did anyone catch what they're calling the birds at 85 and 105? There's 2 listed for 85, one of them shows as ViPTV 85, and the other is Echostar XVI as in Echostar 16. At 105 it shows Echostar XV or Echostar 15. What gives?

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I know I am not quite sure why one is called VIP and the other Echostar except it looks suspciously like the same slot or near enough at 86.5, that DISH will use for the relaunch of DISH in mpeg 4. Maybe the Vip is just for the cable end companies to use and the Echostar 16 will be used for DISH? I don't see any mention of 97, which was supposed to be the other sat slot used in the relaunch. Either way if they use the 85 slot it covers the entire U.S., Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico and Cuba. Looks like a great slot for the relaunch. IF they can indeed fit upto 200 hd channels on this sat along with all the rest of the existing programming that is up there now, no one should have a signal strength issues . Although I believe they are using Ku instead of dbs. This is why I wish Charlie would give us some details because this looks good for the future if it is connected to the relaunch of DISH in mpeg 4.

Has Dish mentioned anything at all on what they may do with the Sky Angel sat. that belongs to Dish?? I woner if that sat. may come into play for us in 2008.

tigerfan33 said:

Has Dish mentioned anything at all on what they may do with the Sky Angel sat. that belongs to Dish?? I woner if that sat. may come into play for us in 2008.

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Good questions. Actually, despite promises to their supporters, Sky Angel never built their own satellite. They are only using 2 transponders on Echostar 3 in exchange for giving Dish 6 transponders whose bandwidth was formerly granted to Dominion (Sky Angel) by the FCC. I believe all those frequencies have now been transferred to Dish. Nevertheless, we're only talking about 2 transponders more than Dish has control of right now.