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Neal VT EE
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NHL Center Ice HD feeds

I was wondering if anyone knew how Dish decided which NHL CI games to show in HD. I was watching a Red Wings game within the last couple of weeks and it was not in HD. I have noticed that generally the road games are not shown in HD on CI. I just assumed that this was because FSN Detroit did not produce road games in HD. However, at the start of the telecast, Ken Daniels said it was available in high definition, but there was nothing on the companion HD CI channel. What gives? I would assume that subscribers in the Detroit area that get FSN Detroit for their RSN got the game in HD. I also assume that E* just maps this feed to multiple channels (i'm an electrical engineer, but i don't know much about how the satellite stuff works). So, I would also assume that since there is no additional transponder space required to have the game in HD on CI (if it's on FSN Detroit), then there is really no valid reason for CI to NOT show it in HD. I thought about calling a Dish CSR, but that's basically pointless as they rarely have a clue about anything.
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Neal VT EE said:
I was wondering if anyone knew how Dish decided which NHL CI games to show in HD. I was watching a Red Wings game within the last couple of weeks and it was not in HD. I have noticed that generally the road games are not shown in HD on CI. I just assumed that this was because FSN Detroit did not produce road games in HD. However, at the start of the telecast, Ken Daniels said it was available in high definition, but there was nothing on the companion HD CI channel. What gives? I would assume that subscribers in the Detroit area that get FSN Detroit for their RSN got the game in HD. I also assume that E* just maps this feed to multiple channels (i'm an electrical engineer, but i don't know much about how the satellite stuff works). So, I would also assume that since there is no additional transponder space required to have the game in HD on CI (if it's on FSN Detroit), then there is really no valid reason for CI to NOT show it in HD. I thought about calling a Dish CSR, but that's basically pointless as they rarely have a clue about anything.
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Not sure about CI and E*'s choices on what to air, but Ken Daniels has said on numerous occasions (all of which have been away games) that it is "available on FSN HD", but the game is not on FSD-HD (Fox Sports Detroit). I am in the FSD Footprint and have found that only Home Games are aired in HD.

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wolfjc
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Stars & wild no HD

I tried to see the Stars & Wild game in HD last night and it was not there even though my guide said it was.
The help said that the channel was off the air.
Any one have any idea what happened?
Was this an E* problem or Stars problem?
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GNASH said:
Not sure about CI and E*'s choices on what to air, but Ken Daniels has said on numerous occasions (all of which have been away games) that it is "available on FSN HD", but the game is not on FSD-HD (Fox Sports Detroit). I am in the FSD Footprint and have found that only Home Games are aired in HD.

Geoff
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FSD has broadcasted away games in HD. I don't live in the FSD market area so maybe that has something to do with it. I remember one of them in December was at Denver because I was flipping back and forth wondering why the Avs feed looked better (MPEG-4 vs. MPEG-2 would appear to be the reason)

wolfjc said:
I tried to see the Stars & Wild game in HD last night and it was not there even though my guide said it was.
The help said that the channel was off the air.
Any one have any idea what happened?
Was this an E* problem or Stars problem?
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E* musta just bounced it 'cause I watched it in HD on CI. It's one of the few HD games FS-Southwest has broadcast this season. I live in the Dallas area and have been miffed that such a big market is so lousy with HD coverage.
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FSD has broadcasted away games in HD. I don't live in the FSD market area so maybe that has something to do with it. I remember one of them in December was at Denver because I was flipping back and forth wondering why the Avs feed looked better (MPEG-4 vs. MPEG-2 would appear to be the reason)
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As I look over their schedule, I do see that a few games in December (4 of them) show as being in HD, but I do live in the footprint and remember looking for at least one away game in HD (as I would rather watch in HD when I can) and not finding it (though there is no way for me to double check this). So I wonder if I just missed it or if Dish chose not to carry these games (at least on the RSN) in HD.

On a side note, according to the Red Wings NHL Page, there are no more HD Away games listed (at least as of 1/8/08). We will see if Ken Daniels says it for away games in the future. Also, I posted a question on the Fox Sports Detroit Page about this. I will let you know if I get a response.

Geoff
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wolfjc said:
I tried to see the Stars & Wild game in HD last night and it was not there even though my guide said it was.
The help said that the channel was off the air.
Any one have any idea what happened?
Was this an E* problem or Stars problem?
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Same thing happened to me. But then I am used to it, whereas I see the Sabres games and MSG always announces in HD. Ya rite, except on Dish.
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In San Diego the Stars/Wild game was on Center Ice HD. I watch the whole game no problem. It seems to me that Dish is either starting to get lazy with their Center Ice HD games or they really just don't want to pay for it in all markets. I wanted to watch the Kings/Avs game a couple of weeks ago in HD, and noticed that Altitude HD was carrying the game, so I figured that it would be on the Center Ice HD channels, as just about every RSN-HD game has been in the past (as it is just a map to altitude HD, and not re-transmitting the signal). The game wasn't listed on the CI-HD channels, so I did a check switch and downloaded new guide data, but it still wasn't there. So I called Dish, and after getting transferred around (I think I ended up with special event services) was informed that the game was only being carried in the local market due to broadcast restrictions and that altitude wasn't broadcast outside of colorado, I could only watch it on Center Ice on FSN-West. That was wrong as I was watching the SD feed of Altitude on CI. So he tells me that all programming providers have to bid on the HD games separately from the SD games and the DISH must have decided that it wasn't worth the $$$$ to show that game in HD. I told him that DirecTV was carrying the game in HD on Center Ice and he told me that was great but that DISH is the leader in HD and has more "real" HD content than DirecTV.

Anyways, just a rant, but I'm growing tired of seeing NHL games in HD on the RSN-HD stations in my guide, but not being able to see them on CI-HD channels.
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FSD has broadcasted away games in HD. I don't live in the FSD market area so maybe that has something to do with it. I remember one of them in December was at Denver because I was flipping back and forth wondering why the Avs feed looked better (MPEG-4 vs. MPEG-2 would appear to be the reason)



E* musta just bounced it 'cause I watched it in HD on CI. It's one of the few HD games FS-Southwest has broadcast this season. I live in the Dallas area and have been miffed that such a big market is so lousy with HD coverage.
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I was looking at D* while E* was fooling around about having CI but I am glad that I did not switch because when I look at the NHL-CI thread at DBStalk
I see things about the D* support of CI that leave me cold, not caring the WHOLE of HNIC, not caring the real end of a game because it went to over time or a shoot out etc. It seems that the pulled the plug at the time stated instead of when the game really ended.
But from the latter posts it seems that they have gotten better but there are still complaints a lot of them.
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Neal VT EE
wolfjc said:
I tried to see the Stars & Wild game in HD last night and it was not there even though my guide said it was.
The help said that the channel was off the air.
Any one have any idea what happened?
Was this an E* problem or Stars problem?
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Same thing happened to me, so i called FOUR times. That's right FOUR, and i pissed away an hour last night doing this. First i get disconnected before i even talk to anyone, second i get transfered and then disconnected, third i get transfered again to some Spanish que, so i call back and the fourth time i talk to someone who barely speaks English and can do nothing but apologize. She claimed it was a technical problem on Dish's end, but didn't offer a real explanation or solution. Finally i was so frustrated i threw a few F-bombs at her and sent a scathing email to ceo@echostar.com. Honestly i feel like i've been cheated by subscribing to CI. To me 1 to 2 games on an almost full schedule night in HD doesn't cut it and then when they have both home and away HD feeds for the same game it irritates me even more. I think that's a waste if they only are using a max of 5 or 6 transponders for all the CI games. This is rare, but i have seen it a few times this season. Just my 2 cents, but i'm not happy with what has been delivered this season on CI as far as HD content. I wonder if it's any better over at D*.
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You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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You are paying for the whole thing
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You are paying for the whole thing
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
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.a bag...not much
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Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
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but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...
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Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you
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dishstaller said:
Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you
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None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime
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Juan said:
None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime
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I can't BELIEVE this is being such a difficult subject. The issue isn't the price....it's the advertised price per ounce. A lot of shoppers, myself included, use the price per ounce in determining which is the better value....with that number being inaccurate, it can trick someone into thinking that one product cost less per ounce than a competing product. Is this a crime?...above my pay grade. Is it dishonest? Yes.
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dishstaller said:
I can't BELIEVE this is being such a difficult subject. The issue isn't the price....it's the advertised price per ounce. A lot of shoppers, myself included, use the price per ounce in determining which is the better value....with that number being inaccurate, it can trick someone into thinking that one product cost less per ounce than a competing product. Is this a crime?...above my pay grade. Is it dishonest? Yes.
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Again it makes no difference...call the ftc and file a complaint...maybe your lawyer can file a class action lawsuit and you can collect your 25 cents
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
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You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
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A pound of Coffee, does that include the package it's in ?

No, a pound of coffee refers strictly to the net weight of the coffee itself (16 ounces), not including the weight of the bag or packaging. [1, 2]
  • Net Weight: Food and coffee sold by weight are required by law to list the net weight on the label, which measures only the contents inside the package. [1, 2]
    • Packaging Weight: The foil bag, valve, and label add extra weight to the total item when you hold it, meaning the gross weight on a scale will be slightly more than 16 ounces.
    • Watch Out for Bag Sizes: Always check the label carefully, as many specialty roasters now sell 12-ounce (three-quarter pound) bags while keeping the price or visual impression similar to a full pound. [1, 2, 3]
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Years down the road
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Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
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renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
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I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota
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Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
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Is any SD-only receiver still operating?
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Is any SD-only receiver still operating?
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zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
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CONTRACTS!
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my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota
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Yes, I considered D* as I knew some of my favorite channels had better PQ but too many require moving up to the "Choice" package and incurring the Regional Sports Fee.
I do not have METV or any of the Weigel owned channels here in El Paso.
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What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?
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Glenn's Pick of the Week: The Vevor Automatic Tape Dispenser

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Bobby
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4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
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Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
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I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
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Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.👍🏻
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!
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Hello again

I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
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Welcome back, as you can see we branched off into a bunch of things since Satellite is what it is now, so lots to talk about here. :)
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dishstaller said:
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
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From what I understand, it's just saving a article or whatever, to Save it so you can read it later ....
Unless he's talking something entirely different ... the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
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Jimbo said:
the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
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That was kinda the way I understood it as well.
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SuperDish_Fan23
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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Gary Toma
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
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Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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KyL416 said:
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2
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I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.
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I thought the NBA TV contracts were short term as the NBA is trying to get all of the teams into in an all in one streaming app?
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649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.

The rest are still pointing to the TV Promise slate
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660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
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KyL416 said:
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.
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KyL416 said:
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
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One thing these five teams have in common is that they all signed exclusive local streaming rights deals with DAZN, replacing their traditional regional sports networks.

I know the Spurs will have 22 games available OTA on KMYS-TV CW35 in the San Antonio market, but they'll still be available on DAZN as well. The CW35 broadcasts are an additional option, not an exclusive arrangement.

With channel 680 now available, we should be able to get all the Spurs home feeds on NBALP again! (as well as the other teams above of course)
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Tom Speer
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Cutting Edge Information

DIRECTV Cutting Edge Non Disclosure Agreement

In order to participate in any Cutting Edge testing, you must sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Attached are a .docx (Microsoft Word) and PDF version of the latest DirecTV NDA. I found it easiest to complete the .docx version then paste a photo or scan image of my signature, cropped closely to just the signature into it as a picture. Then set Word to wrap text around the picture so that the picture follows the text "Signature".

People who have better PDF tools than I do may prefer that version.

When you apply for any Cutting Edge testing, you will be told how to send the signed copy.
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Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.
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Been putting off buying a front/rear dashcam. This Civil Rights Lawyer video now has me moving forward

This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14
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dishstaller said:
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14
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Central is not any better, Polk County still does not have body cams.
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