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BIGGEST PROBLEM: Getting stuck in two different troubleshooting screens...

(1) The "502" error message, even after hard/soft booting ("okay" or "enter" or whatever is only option/response -- which keeps dumping us into this second screen:

(2) "Installation Summary" and "test switch" screens:
Can only get/run "Test"/058 -- OR navigate to "Details" and "Help" along the bottom. "Done" is grayed out. When hit "Test, it runs a "1 of 3" test for one satellite -- and never gets around to testing the second (which stays at "running 1 of 1). Upon which I get the above 502 message. About the only thing I'm able to do, by myself, is "remove the satellite connection" and then try/test again (which did a 50-part test for each last night, but still no fix)
SHOWN ON INSTALLATION SUMMARY: one block each, for satellites...

Satellite Input 1 (info in three columns):
Port = 1 2 3
Satellite = 110 121 119
Trans = ok ok ok
Device = Dual Feed Feed
Status = Reception Verified
Switch = DP34

Satellite Input 2 (info in one column):
Port = 1
Satellite = 110
Trans = ok
Device = Feed
Status = Reception Verified
Switch = DP Feed

Below that, two buttons/options:

* SuperDish (which is "checkmarked")
* Alternate (which is not checkmarked or highlighted)

Below that, the three buttons I already referred to:
* Test (highlighted in orange, to select)
* Done (grayed out, can't select)
* Help (white, can select)


BASIC INFO:
= We have a SuperDish (viewed outside) but inside the TV says something like "Dish 500" or "500+"
= two receivers (322) that look identical but perhaps aren't? Here's where install got messy, to old cable TV lines, botched phone line install, tangled mess
= Don't totally get what an LBN/F (or whatever) is...but our setup on the roof doesn't look like any pix or diagram on the Dish website. We appear to have 2: there's one of these babies that's very big/chunky pointing back at the dish, in a light gray casing/cover (only one "eye" but it's not round, more like a sideways bell-shape) -- and one smaller one that protrudes from it without a small dark gray casing/cover on it
= With all our "switch" and "check switch" prompts we see an SW21

OBSERVATIONS:
* Son's TV runs off exact same cabling, receiver, etc -- and it is just fine, time after time. Even tried to copy/add same settings from his TV to this TV, from the menu button, but this TV seemed to get worse instead of better.
* We didn't do anything physically to this TV or its cabling. We had some wicked windy weather outside, and snow, but wouldn't that have affected son's reception, too? All snow melted the other day, too, in the middle off all this.
* First sign(s) of a problem: Being unable to get ANY LOCAL CHANNELS, and when troubleshooting that, got the local channels but NONE OF THE OTHER/NATIONAL channels. Even lately, when reception suddenly resumes, we can get one or the other downstairs -- never both.

CAVEAT(s)
+ Yep, I am a newbie -- so pardon me if I'm missing something really obvious. But please know that I've tried: all the booting, all the on-screen prompts, instruction book, Dish's tech portal, and the more I read the more confused I get. (Give me PC problems and wireless networking glitches any day...)
+ Admittedly, haven't called Dish yet. Have had trouble on that front, including an initial very botched installation which had to be redone by their quality control folks.
+ One of their fixes says to hit "menu" and/or "view TV" but I can't get unstuck from these two error screens. After having the TV off for a long time, I can sometimes navigate to a real channel, but often as not, you only get the channel/program info in the box up top but NO PICTURE, maybe sound but I can't remember.

Thanks in advance! As I said, our install two years ago was SUCH a mess, that I can't even be sure we have an optimal configuration going on here...
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So you have a Superdish that is running to a 34 switch (http://www.satelliteone.com/dish/images/sw34_switch.gif)... Are there two lines running to each of your 322's, one for each satellite input? Are they all RG-6, preferably swept to at least 2.25 GHz (would be written on the cable sheathing)? If you have a DP34, the only way you can get your system to correctly check the switch with two 322's is if you run two feeds from the satellite to each receiver's satellite input. A 322 has two inputs, one for each TV, so you'll need two signal lines from the DP34, wherever it may be located. You then have to run a third coax line to the second TV from your 322, or diplex one of the signal lines.

Another option is to acquire a DPP44 switch, run one line to each receiver and use a Separator (DISH PRO PLUS SEPARATOR).

The Dish Pro Plus Separator is NOT compatible with the DP34 switch, so make sure you're not using one in this setup. About that shot of the TV... that's only a specific channel that lets you know you're aimed correctly at the 110 satellite (or 119? I dunno). There are similar channels for the 121, 129, and 148 satellites. :)

Also, do you need the 121 satellite for locals? Otherwise I'd say try a whole new dish setup. :D Man, I hate working with Superdishes...

Hope this helps!
M
PapaLittle & Skibum - Thanks for help so far. Skibum, I do indeed have two incoming satellite cables for each receiver -- and of the type/weight/speed you specify.

Interestingly, I also have hanging nearby--on the basement wall--two pieces of hardware that are supposedly from the first/botched tangled mess of an install. Not plugged into anything at all are: (1) A four way splitter, and (2) Some kind of a channel amplifier (Archer brand?)

WHAT PUZZLES ME: If it's a SW21 switch, wouldn't my son's TV, off the same receiver, also fail? It's fine each and every time. It's only the TV in the living room that's in this frustrating stuck mode. And so, if it's cable that's perhaps at fault, where in the world would one start looking first? Nearest the TV in the living room, even tho nothing there got moved?

I've looked around inside and have determined that the switch is probably up on the roof with the SuperDish et al. Knowing what I know now, that's probably a dumb place for it, eh? Hard to get at -- along with everything else that's up there. I can't imagine that it's good for the switch to be exposed to the elements like that...

All of this, of course, is to figure out what a repair bill would likely be. If it's the switch, and the goofball put it out on the roof like that, is that a bill that we'll have to foot--or Dish?
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What about "switch test screens" ? and pictures of those devices in your basement ?
vegassatellite
OK, here is what you need to do:

You need to determine which lines at the DP34 switch are to your problem receiver and which two are for your son's room. Label them as you will be moving them around.

1. Take the receiver from your son's room and connect it to your problem receiver's location and move all connections up to the test receiver. Then go into the menu and do a check switch on this receiver and see if you get the same result.

A. Same result:
You have either a problem with your DP34 switch or you have bad cabling going to your problem location. To diagnose this, you will have to disconnect the wires at the DP34 switch that go to the problem location and put them on the connections that serve your son's room. Run the test again. Go to Step 2 for the subsequent procedures.

B. Different result:
You have good cables and good switch as evidenced by a passing result on your test receiver. The result should say at the bottom "Satellite Reception Verified". If you have this, then you need to call DISH and have them send you a replacement receiver. Be prepared for them to have you run the procedure over again so they can confirm that one receiver isn't working at a known good location.

2.
A. Same result:
You obviously don't have a bad receiver as the other receiver produced the same results at the same location. Also, you likely don't have a bad switch as those same ports were working fine in your son's room. This leads to a conclusion that one of your two wires serving that problem room is bad. If one tuner has a good result but the other has a bad result, try switching the two incoming wires on the back of the receiver to the opposite satellite ports. Run the test again. If the tuner that has a good result now shows a bad result, then only one of the wires is bad and you will need to replace it. To determine which wire is which, just unhook one of them and run the test again. This will be a long test but when it is done you will have your answer. If you have one good result and one completely "X" out, then your good line is still connected. If you have a bad result and a completely "X" out situation, then your bad wire is still connected.

B. Different Result:
This will be a tricky one to solve and you should report back here if it happens as it is pretty uncommon and we can then work out alternative troubleshoot procedures for you.
J
I went home Thursday and un-hooked everything from power to satellite in cables. Then I checked all the cables. I found the #2 cable to have some of the silver lining wrapped around the copper center. I fixed that and finished checking the rest of the cables. I hooked it all up, ran switch test and VIOLA!! It worked like a champ. I read about that in a post on one of the million pages I read. I probably never would have found that. Thanks to all. I hope MLHendrick gets his solved soon.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
harshness
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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harshness
Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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comfortably_numb
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
dishdude
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
AZ.
AZ.
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan
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TAKE On ME-A-Ha
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On Broadway - George Benson
Bobby
Stay In Time - Off Broadway USA
harshness
Just In Time - Tony Bennett
dishstaller
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Jimbo
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Jimbo
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Jimbo
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
Jimbo
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
harshness
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Jimbo
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
harshness
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
TRG
TRG
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
Jimbo
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
Jimbo
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
Juan
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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Bobby
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
22g per serving.
Juan
22g per serving.
How much is a serving?
Bobby
How much is a serving?
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
Jimbo
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
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They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
Jimbo
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
Well, it is a Super market deli, just not a MAJOR one .
navychop
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."
navychop
don't think theres sodium in it

According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
Jimbo
According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
Bobby
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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dishstaller
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I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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Foxbat
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Bruce
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar! 🤣
Jimbo
Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
Stay tuned ...