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Given the fact that they need 1.5M customers to break even, why the
heck does VOOM continue to do nothing to keep customers from leaving
and even lie to them straight out and do nothing to compensate for or
address it.

Case in point:

I signed up with VOOM last October. A week before my moneyback
guarantee ended VOOM called to ask which plus pack I wanted. Instead
of choosing a plus pack I chose Va Va VOOM. I also purchased 4
receivers because I was promised that I would only have to pay a $5.00
household mirroring fee and not $5.00 for each receiver. To cover
myself (in case that policy changed), I had a supervisor send me an
email which stated that as long as I remain a VOOM customer and do not
interrupt my service, I will never have to pay for each receiver, just
$5.00 for the entire houselhold (up to six receivers). In addition,
the email said I could go back to the basic + 1 plus pack anytime I
wanted to and still maintain my Charter Membership. This is the only
reason I ordered the extra receivers. BTW, I was never by VOOM nor the
the CSR that called in April that I would loose my charter status if I
went with Va Va VOOM. (And what the heck does being a charter member
have to do with what programming you choose anyway? what intelligent
individual thought that one up?) Shouldn't the criteria for being a
Charter Memeber be based on the date you became a VOOM customer and
not on what programming package you chose. Heck, I guess they really
didn't want the extra revenue they were getting from the Va Va VOOM
package. I won't mention the supervisors name, but VOOM should have
more like him because he knows what customer service really means.

Since my original installation, I have had continual problems with the
VOOM service (loss of picture, OTA going out, boxes hanging, reboots
etc.) up until about a month ago. Wilt helped out by getting a
different OTA installed for me (they incrementally went to larger and
larger antennas until they got one that worked. It took 5 trips before
they put the one up that I asked for in the first place, but it also
needed a power booster. My wife wanted VOOM out of the house very
badly, she thought the service was a joke as she does not like being
on the cutting edge of technology. Nor did she appreciate how much
time I invested in VOOM both on the phone and with the installers. I
also helped VOOM's marketing department out in a variety of ways and
talked with outside vendors they used for various promotional and
programming topics. I was also asked by VOOM to attend several
conference calls with Motorolla and Install's Inc. to help them
identify which OTA worked in my area as we are surrounded by mountains
and some issues involving the STB. My wife and family wanted Direct TV
back as we never had any customer service or hardware/software issues
and that was what they were used to ( At least none that they didn't
do something to make us happy customers). In addition, my kids missed
all the Nickelodeon stations VOOM lacked. Now all we have Direct TV
for is the NFL ticket and Sports Package for my local RSN because we
canceled all the other programming with Direct TV when we got VOOM. I
stuck with VOOM and convinced my family to go along with me because I
knew Wilt would get all the technical issues resolved and VOOM had
always treated me great, with quick response times on services calls
and credits to my account to compensate for loss of service and
hassles. About a month ago the installer for my area sent out a senior
tech to go over the entire installation. He found a lot of sloppy
work, such as the switch box not being secured downed. Instead it was
left dangling from the antenna for dish (btw, they replaced the
switch 3 times because of fault equipment). same with the power for
the OTA. He found most cables were not crimped tightly and easily
moved. He was really upset that someone from his company did an
installation like this. Well he fixed everything and even caulked the
outside holes where the drilled for the cabeling. Now thanks to the
installation company and Wilt everthing in the house is rock solid. I
get all my locals incluing two from another city 90 miles south of my
house, I got a 30" dish to help with rain fade, all new receivers with
the latest software and new cable tips for all cables. For the last
month I don't think think I had a single audio dropout or a single
pixelation in the last month. I have Tivo set up for VOOM and HD
recordings look great when recorded in best quality mode.

I figured now VOOM is now prime time and is destined to be the best
satellite provider in the country once they added all the RSN's and
some additional "core" SD channels like Sci-Fi, all the Discovery
channels etc... So for 9 months we suffered with constant random
outages and just a very poor VOOM experience because of a lousy
install and initial receiver firmware bugs and lack of features. My
family now loves VOOM and everone thought I made the right decisions.
In addition all the kids have their own receivers so there is no
fighting of who can watch what and when.

Now I get this month's bill and I have $15.00 extra on my bill, $5.00
fee for each receiver, instead of $5.00 houshold mirror fee. I called
VOOM up to ask why all of a sudden I am being charged for the
receivers. The CSR said it was an obvious mistake since I was a
charter member and credited my account for overcharge. The CSR also
escalated this to the billing department so it wouldn't happen again.
Three days later I received a call from the VOOM billing department.
An extremely nice individual apologed for the mistake and was told it
was taken care of and I will not be charged again. He said for some
reason, my account recently was changed to non charter status. He sad
that he applied the credit and put me back as a charter member.

A few days later I get another call from the VOOM billing department
(this time a lady...name witheld) to let me know that was calling in
reference to an escalation they received from a CSR. I told the lady
that it was all taken care of and that a person from billing had
already called me up and told me everything was taken care of. She got
very stern and said she never authorized anyone to call me. She went
on to tell me that I had to pay the $5.00 for each reciver because I
was not a charter member anymore since I chose the Va Va VOOM package
back in April (She reversed my status to non-charter and removed the
credit as well). I asked her if that was the case, why wasn't I ever
charged until know. She didn't have an answer. I then told her I had a
note from a supervisor telling me that I was entitled to a $5.00
household mirroring fee for life. Now get this; she said she saw the
email noted in my records, talked to the supervisor who sent it out
for verification, and then said that VOOM was not going to honor what
they sent me in writing. I told her that I would not have purchased
the extra receivers if I had known that I would have to pay extra for
them as was told from day 1 that that was one of the benefits of being
a charter memeber. I was olso told on day 1 that my price of $39.95 +
1 free plus pack wold never change. I never heard of such perks in the
sateelite/cable industry but I figured that it was because VOOM was a
new company up against two very large competitors, and they were doing
whatever it would take to beat the competition. She said I could
easily disconnect the receivers if I didn't want to get charged. She
didn't get it, I paid $200 for each of them and had an email stating I
didn't have to pay $5.00 for each receiver. She said there was nothing
she was going to do about it, no credit, no buy back of the receivers
since my MBG ended in April and that was final. She wouldn't even
activate them if I sold them. I asked her why a company would treat a
customer like this so early in it's life when it needs to get and keep
as many subs as possible (no company should every treat a customer
like this anyway). She said "well, we are doing pretty well now". It
sounded like, OK, when we needed you we made promises to keep you pat
the MBG period. Now you can't get any money back and we are adding
subs at a good pace so we don't need you anymore. I was totally
shocked, stunned more like it. I could not believe a company would lie
like this and not stand behind a comitment they made. She said the
only thing she was willing to do was to escalate it to her boss, but
it wasn't going to change the situation. She would not give me her
bosses name or anyone else I could talk to about this. I asked her if
this was the case I might have to go to small claims court to get my
money for the receivers back. She then said if I was planning on suing
the company, she was no longer allowed to talk to me.

I did get a call from her boss a few days later, and he said he
contacted corporate and said VOOM would do the right thing by me (he
agreed I was entitled to the lifetime mirroring fee because I was
promised it, but said there was no official policy about how long the
charter members were even entitled to this benefit. He said he could
not change my status unless he received authorization from corporate
as he could loose his job. He PROMISED he would definately call me
back the next day when he was supposed to call corporate for an
answer. Well, it's been over two weeks and I have not heard back from
anyone. I have called VOOM to talk to him to find out the status but
the CSRs say they are not allowed to put people through to billing.
All he could do was fill out and escalation form and someone from
billing would call be back in 3 to 5 days. Every CSR I talked to could
not believe how VOOM handled this situation.

It is too bad, I got six people to sign up for VOOM and I really love
the programming. But this is just outrageously poor customer service.
When I got VOOM, I told Direct TV that I switch to VOOM but could not
get RSN's. I asked if I could buy their sports package which has all
the RSN's (all I really needed was mine Fox Sports Arizona) plus The
Outdoor Channel. They said that normally you need to have a base
package like total choice, but the CSR said they would do it because
they wanted my business back if I ever decided to leave VOOM (which sh
said I would probably do becasue they have a lot of HD programming
being lined up, inhd?). Now Direct TV has awesome customer service.
They always have, but this goes beyond being good, this is was great
customer service.

I just called Direct TV today to price an HD set up and because they
are offering 6 months of free HD programming. Most NFL ticket games
will be in Hi-Def this year. They had it noted in my account that I
switched to VOOM and asked why I was coming back. When I told her, all
she could say was "Oh My God". She got real friendly then and confided
in me about what HD channels they would be offering by the end of the
year, and this was just the begining. She awesome deal on the
equipment and programming and gave me every incentive offer they had.
She even dropped the price for the sports package if I wanted to keep
it to $2.00 per month for the next 12 months and offered some other
deals to help offset my loss for the VOOM equipment. I can't discuss
which HD channels they are adding, but is significant enough for me
not to worry to much about leaving VOOM (i may just keep the base
package for Worldsport and the Cinema's) which I feel I have no choice
based on pure moral reasons if nothing else.

This is a very unfortunate situation because I have enjoyed being part
of VOOM's growth and seeing a new company grow and helping where I
could. I am not putting down anything about VOOM, it is just their
customer service, policy changes and/or lack of clearly communicated
policies as well as a management I don't feel can take VOOM to the
next level quick enough, IMHO. I never even complained once about the
degredation in PQ, although looking at HDnet it looked sharper than
most VOOM channels especially Equator which has this look that I can't
explain. It is sort of like a little blur like you see in the summer
comming of the street, sort of wavey in some parts of the screen when
filming form the air. As for programming, I think the Cinema's have
come a long way, so noone should be complaining about content. Rave
has awesome PQ although I can see the same concerts on PBS. I was
expecting a channels with converted concerts and ones that VOOM would
shoot new, not just a rip-off of the PBS 1 hour series. So the way I
see the programming I will not be getting with Direct TV,

1) Cinema 10 - will miss a little. Shows movies I don't think I would
have ever seen without VOOM but could have lived without ever seeing.
But there are some really great movies on these channels and the
content is getting better and better.

2) Animania - my kids love Henry's World and the Grave Diggers, but
like Nicktoons better which VOOM Doesn't have.

3) HDnews - Won't miss.

4) MOOV, Gallery, Ultra, Auction - Won't miss.

5) Rush - Might miss because it has potential. It didn't turn out to
have as much new content or stuff that I like, speedboat racing, jet
skiing, ATV'ing, Wakeboarding (I know there is one episode from Hawaii).

6) Rave - Won't miss. HDnet has much better concerts (not just 1 hour
segments),I can watch SoundStage on PBS in HD.

7) Equator - Won't miss. I was excited about this channel at first.
But it doesn't take yo "into the streets" of different cities so you
can feel like you are there experiencing it.

8) Monsters - Will miss, but has becoe repetitive and doesn't have as
much new horror as I expected. I saw Children of the Corn II bit never
saw the others. But the Horror Channel is comming out in two months
and will have a larger variety but not HD.

9) Worldsport - Will miss without a doubt.

10) All Premiums, HBO, SHOW, CINEMAX, STARZ - will be on Direct as
will TNT and BRAVO. Plus Direct already has ESPN, HD PPV and HDnet
(Bikini Destinations!!!), HDmovies and they will have an exclusive on
the NFL ticket for another 5 years, next year ALL games will be in HD.

So if I take away the 21 VOOM exclusives I think Direc TV will be
pretty much on par with VOOM and maybe have a channel or two that we
VOOMer's have wanted for a long time and was even advertised in VOOM's
brochure at one time. Plus Direct TV has no sales tax. So with all the
Premiums + HD + Sports Package I will be paying only about $11 more
with Direct TV and have all the SD's like Sci-Fi that I don't get with
VOOM.

So I may have lost some money with the equipment but Direct TV helped
ease that pain somewhat if/when I decide to go with them, but VOOM
probably just lost 7 people that would have been customers for life. I
really don't see how they will survive if they need 1.5M customers to
break even and they are at 40K now and are not agressive in retaining
current customers.

Sorry for the long post, but I thought new people considering VOOM
should here how their policies may put them out of business quicker
than anything else would. So think a lot harder than I did ( I am a
very trusting person, but I only get burnt once ) before investing in
a lot of equipment, i.e. DVR - who knows, they will probably offer it
for no monthly fee at first and then start charging $25.00 per month
for the service for it. Who knows what policy will be next. THEY DON'T
EVEN HONOR WHAT THAT GIVE YOU IN WRITING. Another promise the CSR who
signed me up said was that all charter members would be getting a DVR
for free when they come out and charter members were the ones who
signed up before Jan 1, 2004. Oh yeah, but I forgot, I am not a
charter member anymore since I decided to give my satellite company
more money to help them be successful. Seriously, I don' watch StarZ
and could be paying $15 less per month.

So for a meesly $10 per month for extra receivers VOOM will most
likely loose 7 customers to Direct TV. My friends that got VOOM only
purchased one receiver so Direct TV will make it a wash for them. We
are the type of subscribers that would have subscribed to every
channel VOOM offered (most of them anyway) becasue we all had C-band
systems and gloated about how many channels we got, e/w feeds on just
about every channel. I can say however, that I have no worries
investing in equipment from Direct TV which will soon have 13 million
customers. A pretty large base to offer HDTV to. They also have the
market on sports. So after the next two quarters when they have added
the HD movies channels, they are going after HD sports. I was
wondering what they were going to do with three more satellite...

Ken


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nostrodumb_ass
[VOOM] Re: VOOM LIES

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kfried001" <kfried@c...> wrote:
".....Anyway, I have had a lot of services calls, but I never asked
for any
credits. VOOM came back 5 times with different antennas until they
got
one that worked. Thanks to Wilt this was taken care of. I also had
the
receiver replaced 5 times in my bedroom, until VOOM and I started to
think it had more to do with bad wiriing than the receivers. My son's
receiver was replaced several times because it would hang every day.
I
found out what was wrong with the one in the bedroom. Each time the
receiver was replaced, the installed would take the antenna module
out
of the old receiver and put it in the new one. Well it turned out to
be a faulty antenna module that was causing the issues. As for my
son's receiver, it had do with a faulth cable run to his room. As for
the OTA going in and out, there was a bad switch one time and the
other time it was caused by the installer not securing it down
properly."

My point the other day was that you appear to be a high maintenance
customer. What you posted above solidifies my opinion of that. Your
25 posts over the last 3 days (yes, I counted them. He accounted for
over 20% of the posts here over the last 3 days. This, on a list
with over 2,010 members.) also solidifies my opinion of that.
With all due respect, this is not the "kfried group".

I have been here since January of this year, and, for you newbies
out there, there was another extended period where Mr. Fried wanted
to dominate this board with attention-seeking whining, and the other
members told him, in essence, to take a hike. He did, for about 2
weeks, but he couldn't stay away forever. It makes me wonder: with
all that time typing, how can you possibly find time to watch Voom?

The latest complaint is about a $5 mirroring charge.
As a charter member, didn't you get Vavavoom free for about 7 months?
Don't answer that.



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nostrodumb_ass
[VOOM] Re: VOOM LIES

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kfried001" <kfried@c...> wrote:
".....Anyway, I have had a lot of services calls, but I never asked
for any
credits. VOOM came back 5 times with different antennas until they
got
one that worked. Thanks to Wilt this was taken care of. I also had
the
receiver replaced 5 times in my bedroom, until VOOM and I started to
think it had more to do with bad wiriing than the receivers. My son's
receiver was replaced several times because it would hang every day.
I
found out what was wrong with the one in the bedroom. Each time the
receiver was replaced, the installed would take the antenna module
out
of the old receiver and put it in the new one. Well it turned out to
be a faulty antenna module that was causing the issues. As for my
son's receiver, it had do with a faulth cable run to his room. As for
the OTA going in and out, there was a bad switch one time and the
other time it was caused by the installer not securing it down
properly."

My point the other day was that you appear to be a high maintenance
customer. What you posted above solidifies my opinion of that. Your
25 posts over the last 3 days (yes, I counted them. He accounted for
over 20% of the posts here over the last 3 days. This, on a list
with over 2,010 members.) also solidifies my opinion of that.
With all due respect, this is not the "kfried group".

I have been here since January of this year, and, for you newbies
out there, there was another extended period where Mr. Fried wanted
to dominate this board with attention-seeking whining, and the other
members told him, in essence, to take a hike. He did, for about 2
weeks, but he couldn't stay away forever. It makes me wonder: with
all that time typing, how can you possibly find time to watch Voom?

The latest complaint is about a $5 mirroring charge.
As a charter member, didn't you get Vavavoom free for about 7 months?
Don't answer that.



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kfried001
[VOOM] New D* HD Channels. WAS: VOOM LIES (Newbies Be Careful) - Re: Voom-News Article

jjabfjj-
email privately at kfried001@yahoo.com and I will let you know. the
csr said there was going to be a lot added, but to us, I don't think
we are going to consider it a lot, althought a step in the right
direction. If you take away the 21 exclusives, the additions are very
good.

Ken


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, jjabfjj <jjabfjj.1aq1l8@n...> wrote:
>
> What a mess! CS is the 2nd most important part of any venture, product
> reliability, I believe is 1st, pricing last.
> Question, why can't you pass on the new HD channels D* is going to be
> offering? It's not a Doctor patient confidence?
> Good luck!
>
>
> --
> jjabfjj




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kfried001
[VOOM] New D* HD Channels. WAS: VOOM LIES (Newbies Be Careful) - Re: Voom-News Article

jjabfjj-
email privately at kfried001@yahoo.com and I will let you know. the
csr said there was going to be a lot added, but to us, I don't think
we are going to consider it a lot, althought a step in the right
direction. If you take away the 21 exclusives, the additions are very
good.

Ken


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, jjabfjj <jjabfjj.1aq1l8@n...> wrote:
>
> What a mess! CS is the 2nd most important part of any venture, product
> reliability, I believe is 1st, pricing last.
> Question, why can't you pass on the new HD channels D* is going to be
> offering? It's not a Doctor patient confidence?
> Good luck!
>
>
> --
> jjabfjj




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nostrodumb_ass said:
--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kfried001" <kfried@c...> wrote:
".....Anyway, I have had a lot of services calls, but I never asked
for any
credits. VOOM came back 5 times with different antennas until they
got
one that worked. Thanks to Wilt this was taken care of. I also had
the
receiver replaced 5 times in my bedroom, until VOOM and I started to
think it had more to do with bad wiriing than the receivers. My son's
receiver was replaced several times because it would hang every day.
I
found out what was wrong with the one in the bedroom. Each time the
receiver was replaced, the installed would take the antenna module
out
of the old receiver and put it in the new one. Well it turned out to
be a faulty antenna module that was causing the issues. As for my
son's receiver, it had do with a faulth cable run to his room. As for
the OTA going in and out, there was a bad switch one time and the
other time it was caused by the installer not securing it down
properly."

My point the other day was that you appear to be a high maintenance
customer. What you posted above solidifies my opinion of that. Your
25 posts over the last 3 days (yes, I counted them. He accounted for
over 20% of the posts here over the last 3 days. This, on a list
with over 2,010 members.) also solidifies my opinion of that.
With all due respect, this is not the "kfried group".

I have been here since January of this year, and, for you newbies
out there, there was another extended period where Mr. Fried wanted
to dominate this board with attention-seeking whining, and the other
members told him, in essence, to take a hike. He did, for about 2
weeks, but he couldn't stay away forever. It makes me wonder: with
all that time typing, how can you possibly find time to watch Voom?

The latest complaint is about a $5 mirroring charge.
As a charter member, didn't you get Vavavoom free for about 7 months?
Don't answer that.



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nostrodumb_ass,
Let's stop this dialogue as it is going nowhere. Look back at my previous post when I wnted to leave prior to my MBG. It had to do with the 39 channels channels VOOM promised by 2/1 and then 2/8 and then April and then June. Then they totally stopped mentioning 39 channels and went to over 30 channels. What happened to the other 9? That's why I got irritated, another lie. Just for your inofrmation, I have worked closely with the Executive VP of Marketing of VOOM with several initiatives and he appriciated that post. Oviously when companies make promises to you and don't live up to them, it has less of an effect on yout than it it does on me. I have never tried to dominate this board, I am just replying to other peoples posts and thanks. In the long run, corporate told be this incidindent is going to help VOOM, I can't tell you why right now, but they appreciate it as well. So if you think I am doing the wrong thing, please keep yhis at a professional and not a personal level. There there are people that appreciate the time I take to post my experiences and VOOM does as well. I have read all your posts and although I may not always agreed with you, I hope I didn't attach you personally. The five dollar mirroring fee was something I was promised or would not have invested in an additional $800 worth of recievers.

If you really want to help VOOM succeed as I do, it may be more helpful to air the faults so they get fixed instead of being what yo may think of as being a low-maintenance loyal customer and not helping by bringing issues to light. But please let's keep this at an intellectual level and nothing else. If it makes you happy to put others down, that is fine with me, but it is just exposiing an inferiority complex that exists within your personality.
osu1991
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osu1991
Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
Foxbat
Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.
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annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
Foxbat
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes. 😕
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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No Time - The Guess Who
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW


gemini.webp

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/
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Scott Greczkowski
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
Tom Speer
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.
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b4pjoe
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.
I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.
R
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.
R
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch
b4pjoe
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch
It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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jamieh1
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:


2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
266​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
-1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
​
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HD​
​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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​
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RB​
​
​
​
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Engr Work​
56​
18​
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​


The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
D
Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:
K
Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago
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WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server
R
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server
Could be for the Heat since they have the rights to that.

Its always a surprise to see DTV carry subchannels...
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ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Nebugeater
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.


Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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teachsac
Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.
dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
teachsac
Loved the tribal🤣
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Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...