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Logansneo
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I've been hearing chatter from a lot of journalists and electronic industry "leaders" for some time now, from Microsoft to Apple, tout how very soon digital streaming and downloading of HD video content will eclipse conventional packaged media (i.e. DVD, Blu-Ray) and be a simpler method than the old ways of content delivery. I would also love to believe that flying cars and teleportation are coming out next week, but I'm having a hard enough time as it is dealing with the monkey's flying out of my ASS right now!

I will admit that the wave-of-the-future will likely bring On-Demand/downloadable HD media to the masses on it's crest, but let's be honest....in about 5-10 years, maybe. I say this not because I believe that it's technically impossible, on the contrary I feel we poses the technology right now, but the infrastructure necessary to support such a massive transition will take quite some time to set in place.

And let's not forget about Joe and Jane Shmoe who have bills to pay, especially with that brand new 80" OLED touch-screen Ultra resolution HDTV they just took their 4th mortgage out on. Now they need to upgrade their computer, install a complete home network, and subscribe to the recently available FIOS service to take full advantage of that behemoth in their living room! Right? Oh, wait! 1080i only!?! I sure hope this crap can put my kid's through college cause I just blew their scholarship on it!

Do you honestly think the "powers-that-be" are really taking into consideration the advent of HIGHER Resolution signals for future content, along with their big push to get "incredible" 1080i content downloaded to us? I really don't think so! Not saying I'm not enjoying the hell out of my HD Dish service, but I ain't blind! I can see as well as any fool that there are enormous differences between what I got on HD disc and what's out there via Satellite/OTA HD. BIG FRICKIN' DIFFERENCE!!

And what kind of equipment are we going to need to store/burn all of the downloaded high definition goodness with, you know since they believe we won't need Blu-Ray anymore, and how much will THAT cost us? Speaking of "hidden costs" just how many more rights are we the people going to relinquish to the digital age before we aren't even able to own the television we're watching it all on? (OK that last part's a bit unfair as in my case the bank still owns a majority share in MY HDTV, but I'm makin' a dent damnit! :) )

I fear I MAY have become a bit jaded from the 11 years of service I gave to a local high-tech company, an "industry leading" firm committed to burying it's head in the sand or sticking it's fingers in it's ears and chanting, "I don't hear you, I don't hear you...". From my experience with these corporate jackholes and their infinite wisdom in forecasting future trends, I put very little faith in what they or those like them have to say, especially when logic is thrown into the mix!

With everything I've already said, consider this: How confident are you in companies to trust your video libraries to their dodgy servers and hard drives for permanent storage? And will their exemplary customer service and impeccable record's keeping rest your minds at ease, now that EVERYTHING non-tangible you own can be lost at the click of a button?

Sorry. I'm just a hopeless dystopianist...love me some 1984 and Blade Runner! ;)
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riverdog
you know what's really funny... I watch most of my primetime TV on a 13" SD set in the kitchen while my teenagers play Guitar Hero on the 60" HD DLP!
I love my DVR for the simple reason I can watch TV while they sleep!!!!!
vegassatellite
One of the limitations I see on the whole HD over IP setups is the Fair Access Policy most broadband providers have. Some of these companies are bellyaching over their customers using bittorents too often. That's a big issue with a small segment of the broadband consumer marketplace. Imagine if the majority of broadband consumers were getting several hours of HD content on a daily basis. The broadband providers would be choking with excessive data transfers. I guess 12 meg service is only ok if you are only reading blogs all day, at least that's what Comcast has to say about it.
A
you know what's really funny... I watch most of my primetime TV on a 13" SD set in the kitchen while my teenagers play Guitar Hero on the 60" HD DLP!
I love my DVR for the simple reason I can watch TV while they sleep!!!!!
You're a good father. Guitar Hero rocks! :)
S
Some of these companies are bellyaching over their customers using bittorents too often.

I used to do bittorrent quite alot, but ended up being for stuff I hardly or ever used. After awhile there was little point in using the thing much anymore. I suppose alot of die hards still use it often because they can, and a younger crowd than I that would tend not to buy it all anyways. Ooooooold argument.

Anyways to sort of relate to Dish/DirecTV/Comcast, the blu-ray winners should start pricing their merchandise to compete with television. They did it before. They can do it again. If (hopefully 'when') they do, I will buy one and discs and lower my sat package when the contract is over. Probably an HD only one.

Then again, maybe they arent quite ready to lower sales of standard DVD yet.
Posty-McPOst
I used to do bittorrent quite alot, but ended up being for stuff I hardly or ever used. After awhile there was little point in using the thing much anymore.

Ya blame bittorrent because you don't know how to find good content. :rolleyes: Do you blame your CD player for playing bad music too? BTW: This is not in anyway related to Dish and doesnt belong here.
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Ya blame bittorrent because you don't know how to find good content. :rolleyes: Do you blame your CD player for playing bad music too? BTW: This is not in anyway related to Dish and doesnt belong here.

To answer your question: no. I can easily find virtually anything I want via bt, usenet or several other sources. As it is, its sort of like those all you can eat buffets in Vegas. Most people go there to eat a good meal at great prices (or no price?). But there are always those that stuff themselves silly because they can. :hungry:

How can I relate this idea to Dish? When I first got my DVR I recorded all kinds of stuff because I could but never watched most of it. Now I am much more discriminating on what I do record and dont feel a need to make sure the drive is always full. Voom and all the others are full of repeats but there is still plenty of new material that I could never watch. There will always be a place for Voom. They just need to combine some channels like companies tend to merge two smaller branches into a more efficient larger one.
charlesrshell
What is the basic difference in the Blu-Ray and HD DVD players on how it works. Is it hardware or can a like a firmware be changed. My sons HP computer DVD player can play both.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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Bruce
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
Ask this question in the Cord Cutters part of the forum, do not feel like getting yelled at, if I answer the questions here.
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
AZ.
AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
T
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
dishdude
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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MikeD-C05
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Jimbo
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...
Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
harshness
Walmart isn't the only one ...
I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
b4pjoe
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.
harshness
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.
Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery
gms49ers
Where's My Thing? - Rush
harshness
I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith
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Bobby
Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard
dishstaller
Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Foxbat
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Bobby
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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TRG
TRG
Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

IMG_0607.webp
Scott Greczkowski
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
Marques Brownlee
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