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TheForce
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OK, I know the basics of X-10. I have a ton of systems in my house already.

But I have this weird issue with one X-10 light control that has baffled me for many months and I finally got around today in debugging the problem enough to know what to do to fix it. However, I would like to understand what caused it.

The light is on a breaker that also has a window AC and a few wall outlets with nothing plugged in.

The problem is when I turn on the light, I can't shut it off. At one time I thought the problem fixed itself but today I realize it was just a repeatable condition I can now replicate.

The condition is that If the AC is running the compressor (cooling) the light can be turned on but not off. If I shut off the AC, I can now turn off the light with the X-10 remote controller. It works 100% without fail. When the AC with compressor is on, I can only turn the light on but can shut it off.

To fix this weird problem I plan to move the light with X-10 module to another circuit, off the AC circuit, allowing the AC to have its own breaker.
I haven't tested this yet but that's the plan.


Anyone with ideas out there on this? I don't understand how the AC can prevent the X10 on the same breaker from shutting off, yet turn on just fine. Other X-10 modules located throughout the house work fine. A test X10 module plugged into one of the additional outlets on the troubled circuit breaker works fine. The test of Ground faults and other electrical issues proved normal neutral and normal ground, proper voltage on the hot.


Help!
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AllieVi
I've been using X-10 since the early '80's and never had a situation like you describe. Quite a strange problem.

Have you tried substituting a different module for the one on the lamp to eliminate the possibility that the module itself may be the problem?

The only thought I have is that when the A/C compressor is running, the signal path through it offers a lot less resistance to the signal than the module does. As a result, less signal will pass through the module. The specific digital code for turning off may be attenuated beyond the module's signal threshold or electronic noise generated by the compressor may in some way interfere with the code. To determine if it's code specific, you could try using a switching to a different one.
TheForce
Thanks, Allie

I've tried those things too. Moving to different number code as well as isolating that light on it's own House code with a separate controller. The actual light is a complex fixture. It is an outdoor light with motion detector, day / night photocell and X10 remote.

For now I did make the breaker box switch to another breaker that only has one Kitchen outlet on it. Problem gone! It was an easy fix, but I still don't understand why this problem was happening in the first place.
AllieVi
… but I still don't understand why this problem was happening in the first place.
Sometimes, X-10 problems can be vexing.

Are you aware of the newer technology, Insteon? I got interested in it a while back as a replacement, but haven't bought anything. That system is more sophisticated and can also control X-10 devices. Google it for more information.
docpadds
I have found for a few of my lights that an appliance module, or a real outlet module, have worked better then the light modules. You loose the ability to dim the light but beyond that they seem far more solid and reliable.

That said, nothing works when my microwave runs, which is moderately worrying LOL
Ronald_Jeremy
It is the A/C causing noise in the lines.

Pick up an x10 xppf from EBAY and put it on the A/C. It will prevent interference from feeding from the A/C to the rest of the circuit. I have had this a couple of times in my house with various electronics.

Used to solve it by putting the offending equipment on a ratshack a/c (alternating current not air conditioner) line filter, but they are no longer available.

Got the x10 xppf from ebay a lot cheaper than from the x10 pro store.

This most recently happened when I replaced a power supply on my PC a few weeks ago. Got it all hooked up and everything on the circuit that was x10 would work sporadically. Even with the PC off. After trouble-shooting I found that if I unplugged the PC completely everything worked fine. Put one of the filters on it and problem solved.

You will see a post from me on the next page about an A/C Line interference filter. That is why I needed it!!! :D :p
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

:popcorn
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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