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I have a Starband dish (Channel Master 74E type) with skewable mount. Over the weekend I removed the factory LNB which is very heavy with a transmitter included and replaced it with a Sadoun KL2 dual linear LNB, attaching it to the LNB arm with a fabricated metal plate and stainless steel hose clamp. I had a lot of trouble finding G25 at 97W. I set the skew at +24, then started panning left and right, adjusting the elevation, panning again. This went on for a couple of hours, then I gave up on that approach. I had a compass several feet in front of the dish, pointed the dish as accurately as I could in the right compass direction, then started doing blind scans with my Mercury II at different elevations. I finally scanned in some transponders and some TV stations which turned out to be for SatMex 6 at 113W. This really surprised me because 113 and 97 are 16 degrees apart. I've pointed regular non-skewable dishes successfully a number of times now and have never been even close to that far off on compass direction. The other thing that puzzles me was how I was able to receive SatMex 6 which needs a skew of something like +40 here when I had the skew set at +24 for G25.

I fine tuned the elevation and azimuth to peak 113, then working from there knew I had to increase elevation by 8 degrees and move left 16 degrees to get G25 and I finally got it. G25 is at 39 elevation from here (Philadelphia area) but the elevation on the dish mount read 46, off by a good 7 degrees. And yes, the mast was plumb, it was mounted on the side of a rickety pallet used as part of my compost bin but I had used a coat hanger and turnbuckle to jack the mast with that heavy dish on it up to plumb in all directions. Maybe the non-factory jury-rigged LNB changed the needed elevation for the dish.

But my basic question for y'all is this: when you have a dish with a skewable mount, does that change the compass direction you point the LNB arm at? With the dish skewed, does that change the angle the signal comes in at?

Thanks much on any advice.
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Anole
See how your Sadoun LNB sits higher than the original?
That makes your dish aim lower (mirror effect)
So, you had to increase the elevation to make up for the down-looking LNB.
Get that LNB neck down in the original half-moon curve at the end of your bracket, and it'll probably fix both problems.

Sometimes ya need to take the large diameter plastic off the neck of some LNBs, exposing the small diameter throat tube, and that may fit the half-moon better.
I don't have one here, but you can tell from inspection, what needs to be done.
Iceberg has posted on the subject a number of times.
Maybe you can find one of his pictures where he did that very thing (though, maybe on a different dish).

Or, if it works, leave it alone, 'cause you're done! - :up
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Sometimes ya need to take the large diameter plastic off the neck of some LNBs, exposing the small diameter throat tube, and that may fit the half-moon better.
I don't have one here, but you can tell from inspection, what needs to be done.
Iceberg has posted on the subject a number of times.
Maybe you can find one of his pictures where he did that very thing (though, maybe on a different dish).

ta da ;) Cut the casing from behind the eye like the pic and that will fit right into the 25m slot on the dish
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ta da ;) Cut the casing from behind the eye like the pic and that will fit right into the 25m slot on the dish
Boy that seems awfully violent. Before, I was thinkin' Sadoun ought to send me a check for the free advertising I was doing for their LNB. They'd want their money back if I take a hack saw to it and post pictures of that!:rolleyes:

Now an even more awful thought occurs to me. I have another Channel Master dish, a PrimeStar that's slightly larger than the Starband dish in this thread. I'm guessing it has the same 25 mm LNB throat. I was thinking of motorizing it with an Invacom quad LNB. I could do the same thing - cut the casing off .... off of my $56 LNB ???? Maybe not.
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Another thought - doesn't anybody make a LNB any more that has a 25 mm throat to begin with so you don't have to cut it?
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Boy that seems awfully violent. Before, I was thinkin' Sadoun ought to send me a check for the free advertising I was doing for their LNB. They'd want their money back if I take a hack saw to it and post pictures of that!:rolleyes:

Now an even more awful thought occurs to me. I have another Channel Master dish, a PrimeStar that's slightly larger than the Starband dish in this thread. I'm guessing it has the same 25 mm LNB throat. I was thinking of motorizing it with an Invacom quad LNB. I could do the same thing - cut the casing off .... off of my $56 LNB ???? Maybe not.

it doesnt hurt anything and if you need to put it back to a 40mm most LNB holders have the adapter for them...or the handy dandy duct tape always works too :)
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Another thought - doesn't anybody make a LNB any more that has a 25 mm throat to begin with so you don't have to cut it?

I know the Sadoun monoblock has a 25mm throat and comes with an adpater
Anole
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ThisBUDsForYou said:
I was thinking of motorizing it with an Invacom quad LNB.

About 2/3rds of the way down on his site, The Netbuilder converted his Primestar dish over to a QPH-031 LNB.
And it's motorized.
Maybe you can get some encouragement from his nice pictures.

I like to point to his web page because he posted a lot of very relevant pictures , all in one place.
... and he did a good job. ;)

Oh, and as long as you were going to skew the dish anyway (or motorize it), Tron has an excellent point:
Tron said:
There's another solution that you can try, use the original feedhorn with a C-120-flanged LNB. You would unbolt and remove the waveguide, transmit, and receive (since its a single-polarity rig) LNB, and replace that whole assembly with a C-120 flanged LNB such as a Primestar 'beer can' or Hughes.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
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Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
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I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
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They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
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Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...