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Last reply Apr 19, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Multiple rooms installation

I have a dish plus lnb 119 and 110 and a dish pro lnb 61.5. Dish pro lnb has a single line going into and connecting the dish plus and then that one single wire coming into the house. I have heard from some ppl that say I need to wires coming into the house. Is that true and what switch would I need? I want to add more rooms than the one I have currently.

How do I go about adding up to four or more rooms. I am guessing right now that I dont have a switch. Do I need more wires coming into the house or do I need to get some switches and hook then up.

as from my research I'm not sure that only a dp44 switch will work.

I have 3 LNB. And two dishes. They point at 110,119 and 61.5. I have only one coaxial cable going into the house. Which then goes into the attic, where the coaxial cables for the other rooms split?

From what I understand from my research. I would need to have the dp44 switch outside, but since I only have one coaxial cable into the house this would not work. Or would it???

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KAB

Apr 9, 2008

From what I have read here several times, a DPP lnb is not recommended for use with a DP44. Rather you should get a DP Twin. Whether inside or out, you would have three cables (two from the twin, one from the 61.5 lnb) to the inputs of the DP44. Then four cables out of the DP44 to where each of the 4 receivers would be located.

WiCkeDuDe

Apr 10, 2008

You would need 3 cables from the dish 1000 and dish 300 to the dpp44 since you would no longer use the DPP twin as the switch. Right now you can run 4 tuners on a dish 1000. A DPP44 switch can run 8 tuners per switch. Dish also has a 6 tuner limit if you are leasing though some have gotten around it.

Liquidforce88

Apr 11, 2008

WiCkeDuDe said:
You would need 3 cables from the dish 1000 and dish 300 to the dpp44 since you would no longer use the DPP twin as the switch. Right now you can run 4 tuners on a dish 1000. A DPP44 switch can run 8 tuners per switch. Dish also has a 6 tuner limit if you are leasing though some have gotten around it.

What question did you read. The original post said nothing about a Dish1000 or a Dish300. It's pretty easy to see that the poster has a Dish500 with a DPP Twin pointed at 110 & 119 orbital locations, and another dish with a DP Dual pointed at the 61.5 orbital location.

djflavor28 said:
I have a dish plus lnb 119 and 110 and a dish pro lnb 61.5. Dish pro lnb has a single line going into and connecting the dish plus and then that one single wire coming into the house. I have heard from some ppl that say I need to wires coming into the house. Is that true and what switch would I need? I want to add more rooms than the one I have currently.

How do I go about adding up to four or more rooms. I am guessing right now that I dont have a switch. Do I need more wires coming into the house or do I need to get some switches and hook then up.

as from my research I'm not sure that only a dp44 switch will work.

I have 3 LNB. And two dishes. They point at 110,119 and 61.5. I have only one coaxial cable going into the house. Which then goes into the attic, where the coaxial cables for the other rooms split?

From what I understand from my research. I would need to have the dp44 switch outside, but since I only have one coaxial cable into the house this would not work. Or would it???

The setup you have now is capable of running 2 receivers and 4 tuners if you have dual tuner receivers. So the dish system you have now could do upto 4 rooms.

If you wanted more than 4 rooms you would need to add an additional switch. I can tell you that Dish Network will only give you 4 tunners for free on your original install. If you want more than that you would have to buy the equipment and pay for the installation. The cost of the DPP44 alone is around $200.00 from Dish. Also the current dish configuration would have to be changed do to the fact that the internal switch on the DPP Twin is bypassed when an external switch is used. You would need a seperate line to the switch for every orbital location that you have, in your case that would be 3 seperate lines from the dishes to your switch.

I am a bit worried about your install. It sounds like it was not done properly or up to code. Only 1 line going from the dish into the attic sounds like the system is not properly grounded.

Liquidforce88

Apr 11, 2008

KAB said:
From what I have read here several times, a DPP lnb is not recommended for use with a DP44. Rather you should get a DP Twin. Whether inside or out, you would have three cables (two from the twin, one from the 61.5 lnb) to the inputs of the DP44. Then four cables out of the DP44 to where each of the 4 receivers would be located.

The DPP Twin works fine with the DPP44. It's the DP34 that the DPP Twin has problems with. The main thing is if you are using a DPP44 to use a DPP Twin is a waste as the internal switch is bypassed.

BobaBird

Apr 11, 2008

djflavor28,
Each receiver must have its own line from the dish or external switch. With your existing setup, you can add 2 rooms by running another line from the DPP Twin to a dual-tuner receiver.

External switches require an input line from each LNB (3 in this case). If you get the DPP44 (there is no "dp44") I would suggest placing it in the attic so the outputs can go straight to the other rooms.

There is no getting around having to run more lines from the outside - either 3 from the LNBs to the switch in the attic or 1 for each receiver if the switch is outside.

djharmstrong

Apr 19, 2008

61.5 out to in on dpp then dpp outs one to each recieve with or with out seperators or/// you need a switch

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 12:04 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Strega

Yesterday at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:02 PM

Strega said:
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

someone is showing their age

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:38 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:03 PM

I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!

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dishstaller

Today at 12:04 AM

dishstaller said:
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

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Last reply Today at 12:02 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Country singer John Anderson died today

He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.

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FTA4PA

Yesterday at 10:53 PM

Rest In Peace

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mikew

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:03 PM

Rest in peace.

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:04 PM

Hope you're out there Swingin', John.

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dishstaller

Today at 12:02 AM

mikew said:
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.

That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.

niembre

Last reply Yesterday at 11:21 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA no working after Update

My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 24, 2026

Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.

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bookworm370

Sep 25, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.

Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!

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slow_poke_pete

Sep 27, 2026

bookworm370 said:
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!

dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!

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ppappas

Sep 30, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!

They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.

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Almighty1

Oct 1, 2026

ppappas said:
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.

Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.

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Briant73

Yesterday at 9:19 PM

Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:48 PM

Briant73 said:
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 9:57 PM

Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:21 PM

In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:37 PM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

ATSC 3 converter boxes

Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.

Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York

Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available

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Tuesday at 12:03 PM

DEATH TO NEXGEN!

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TRG

Tuesday at 12:12 PM

17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.

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navychop

Tuesday at 12:27 PM

Comb your hair.

primestar31

Yesterday at 7:29 PM

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

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Yesterday at 10:37 PM

I truly hope you are right.

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