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I'm listening to an old Howard Stern episode, and they're talking about something where DirecTV/NFL was involved with a class action suit that they settled with customers involving NFL Sunday Ticket.

First off I love how ST used to cost $169.99 (Inelastic Demand at its finest.) Anyways they mentioned that they settled and agreed to some deal where you could order games on a weekly basis, where you can request one Sunday to see all the games for $29.99. Also they had to pay a $7.5 million fine that was to be distributed amongst ST subscribers who had ordered it for at least 2 seasons.

This show was aired on June 4, 2001. Does anyone remember this happening or how long this went on for? Obviously they don't do this single week stuff anymore (That would just be too nice.)
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vampz26
I'm listening to an old Howard Stern episode, and they're talking about something where DirecTV/NFL was involved with a class action suit that they settled with customers involving NFL Sunday Ticket.

First off I love how ST used to cost $169.99 (Inelastic Demand at its finest.) Anyways they mentioned that they settled and agreed to some deal where you could order games on a weekly basis, where you can request one Sunday to see all the games for $29.99. Also they had to pay a $7.5 million fine that was to be distributed amongst ST subscribers who had ordered it for at least 2 seasons.

This show was aired on June 4, 2001. Does anyone remember this happening or how long this went on for? Obviously they don't do this single week stuff anymore (That would just be too nice.)

I usually don't post in the D* forum because...well, I'm usually not allowed to say anything...:D

But with all due respect here, this is an interesting article sharing some historical elements of Sunday Ticket. Should clear up a few questions assumeing folks have any...

ESPN Page 2 - TMQ: Ticket, please!
yourbeliefs
I usually don't post in the D* forum because...well, I'm usually not allowed to say anything...:D

But with all due respect here, this is an interesting article sharing some historical elements of Sunday Ticket. Should clear up a few questions assumeing folks have any...

ESPN Page 2 - TMQ: Ticket, please!
Interesting article, but I did not like the tone that the guy had. He seemed to be quite a cable fanboy, basically bashing DirecTV at every change possible, saying that getting a clear view of the southern sky was harder than finding the Lock Ness Monster, and that D* would fold if they lost the exclusive ST. I think it would be a good idea for them to expand to other systems, especially when I read that there were no such restrictions in Canada and other parts of the world.
vampz26
Interesting article, but I did not like the tone that the guy had. He seemed to be quite a cable fanboy, basically bashing DirecTV at every change possible, saying that getting a clear view of the southern sky was harder than finding the Lock Ness Monster, and that D* would fold if they lost the exclusive ST. I think it would be a good idea for them to expand to other systems, especially when I read that there were no such restrictions in Canada and other parts of the world.

Now I really didn't see a slight against D* in so much as I saw a huge slight against the NFL, but now that you mention it, I do see where he's pushing the cable angle a bit, in that his criticisms were mostly on sat-TV in general. The financial dependecy he depicted between D* and ST was exaggerated, but not without a small nugget of truth. I wouldn't let it bother you. Since its written by a sports writer, I doubt the article contains a lot of industry insight. :D
yourbeliefs
Now I really didn't see a slight against D* in so much as I saw a huge slight against the NFL, but now that you mention it, I do see where he's pushing the cable angle a bit, in that his criticisms were mostly on sat-TV in general. The financial dependecy he depicted between D* and ST was exaggerated, but not without a small nugget of truth. I wouldn't let it bother you. Since its written by a sports writer, I doubt the article contains a lot of industry insight. :D
Also they didn't even mention how E* customers may like this. I have to believe that E* wanted in on this as well, since they would likely want it more than anyone else since they would finally have the major advantage that D* had for themselves.

Overall I'm not complaining. I had D* for a year without Sunday Ticket and I still loved it. That's not to say if I were to move into a better cable provider that I may not switch, but if they keep their service and channels the way they are and don't raise ST too much, I don't see that ugly dish going anywhere anytime soon. My cable service is just... ugh so God awful. I go on EngadgetHD.com and I see all these articles about how all these cable markets are getting more HD stuff, and there has NEVER been a mention about Cox in the Northeast. I feel so sorry for them, but then again, shame on them for not being a good consumer and doing their research (satellite availability issues aside.)
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Interesting article, but I did not like the tone that the guy had. He seemed to be quite a cable fanboy, basically bashing DirecTV at every change possible, saying that getting a clear view of the southern sky was harder than finding the Lock Ness Monster, and that D* would fold if they lost the exclusive ST. I think it would be a good idea for them to expand to other systems, especially when I read that there were no such restrictions in Canada and other parts of the world.

and idiotic parts of the article like this gem

In the early 1980s, sports bars and some people who lived in rural areas began buying huge C-band dishes to pirate the network game feeds that then went out unscrambled.

how the hell do you "pirate" the signal if its UNSCRAMBLED!!! Its up there for anyone with a dish and receiver to pick it up. You pirate a scrambled signal moron...

and there is no such restrictions in Canada to carry it. Pretty much every cable company and both satellite companies carry it and for a helluva lot cheaper
charper1
This guy writing the article is a near idiot and likely one of the few that can't have a dish for some stupid reason.
vampz26
This guy writing the article is a near idiot and likely one of the few that can't have a dish for some stupid reason.

Well, like I said, its written by a sports writer, I doubt the article contains a lot of industry insight.
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Also they didn't even mention how E* customers may like this. I have to believe that E* wanted in on this as well, since they would likely want it more than anyone else since they would finally have the major advantage that D* had for themselves.

Overall I'm not complaining. I had D* for a year without Sunday Ticket and I still loved it. That's not to say if I were to move into a better cable provider that I may not switch, but if they keep their service and channels the way they are and don't raise ST too much, I don't see that ugly dish going anywhere anytime soon. My cable service is just... ugh so God awful. I go on EngadgetHD.com and I see all these articles about how all these cable markets are getting more HD stuff, and there has NEVER been a mention about Cox in the Northeast. I feel so sorry for them, but then again, shame on them for not being a good consumer and doing their research (satellite availability issues aside.)

The guy in the article is just another frustrated cable subscriber who is unhappy with the service. I am thinking he must be one of the "many" people (as he would like to think) that cannot get satellite service due to "technical issues". Quite honestly I don't know what he's talking about. I know of many people in my area who have extensive trees facing the southern horizon and they can receive both D* and E* without a problem. Most people can find a way to receive a signal, it's just a matter of whether they want to make the effort (I know some people in apartments cannot for various reasons, and I am excluding them from my point, but most owners of houses can receive a signal if they try hard enough; not all, but most). Even without Sunday Ticket, which I subscribe to and think it's fabulous, DirecTV is far better than any cable system I have ever subscribed to in the past, and is far better than any system I have seen recently. If you are a sports fan, there is simply nothing better than DirecTV. You have access to virtually every professional game (with the proper sports subscription), and most games are now in HD! And, even if you're not a sports fan, you never have to worry about D* adding a new channel, or dropping a current channel; they add new channels generally as soon as they're launched, and I have never seen them drop a popular channel like E* or cable has in the past. And in regards to the pixelation in the rain, I personally only lose the signal about three times a year due to heavy rain; I used to lose cable about once a week when I had it years ago. I have seen various posts on many sites from cable subscribers complaining about this and complaining about that which always makes me smile and think "if cable is so bad, why do you have it?"
yourbeliefs
The guy in the article is just another frustrated cable subscriber who is unhappy with the service. I am thinking he must be one of the "many" people (as he would like to think) that cannot get satellite service due to "technical issues". Quite honestly I don't know what he's talking about. I know of many people in my area who have extensive trees facing the southern horizon and they can receive both D* and E* without a problem. Most people can find a way to receive a signal, it's just a matter of whether they want to make the effort (I know some people in apartments cannot for various reasons, and I am excluding them from my point, but most owners of houses can receive a signal if they try hard enough; not all, but most). Even without Sunday Ticket, which I subscribe to and think it's fabulous, DirecTV is far better than any cable system I have ever subscribed to in the past, and is far better than any system I have seen recently. If you are a sports fan, there is simply nothing better than DirecTV. You have access to virtually every professional game (with the proper sports subscription), and most games are now in HD! And, even if you're not a sports fan, you never have to worry about D* adding a new channel, or dropping a current channel; they add new channels generally as soon as they're launched, and I have never seen them drop a popular channel like E* or cable has in the past. And in regards to the pixelation in the rain, I personally only lose the signal about three times a year due to heavy rain; I used to lose cable about once a week when I had it years ago. I have seen various posts on many sites from cable subscribers complaining about this and complaining about that which always makes me smile and think "if cable is so bad, why do you have it?"

Yeah. I love my D*. The only thing that I wish it had was InDemand (not ON demand, but the ability to get like WWE 24/7 and Howard TV.) Of course I doubt that'll be available anytime soon.

Talking about writing articles complaining about television, I wrote a letter to the editor of my local paper saying how horrible the cable service was. I think I make better points than this guy did:

Cox televisions' ad slogan is that they are our "Friend in the Digital Age." They fail to mention exactly what KIND of friend they are. They seem to be the friend who is unreliable, doesn't pull their weight, and always thinks of themselves before anyone else.

Given how bad Cox is, I am shocked that every other house in this town doesn't have a satellite dish on it, whether it be DirecTV or Dish Network. As someone who has experienced all 3 services, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Cox is NOT your friend in this age, and that if anything they are just a bully, by constantly raising prices and removing channels.

I feel it's time to debunk a few myths about satellite versus Cox. For one, don't believe that your satellite signal is going to constantly go out. If installed and aligned correctly, your signal will only go out in the worst of weather conditions. I'm not referring to a rain storm, but when it looks like a monsoon outside, and how often have we had those? Also, while its true that Cable is the only way to get on demand service, the Cox On Demand is by far the ugliest and most convoluted interface I have ever seen. If you don't believe me, go to someone who has Comcast On Demand. Comcast has a nice menu with big text and descriptions. The Cox menu looks like what you see when you go to a 2 star hotel and hit the "Menu" button on your tv remote. Small text, bright colors, and information that doesn't make sense. Finally, Cox HD service is nothing to applaud. You get 19 HD stations, counting local channels and premium channels (HBO, Showtime.) I only mention those two premiums because that is all they have. The other ones like Cinemax and Starz! have HD channels, but Cox doesn't provide them. Compare to Dish Network, which provides 32 HD channels (NOT counting premium movie channels,) and DirecTV is planning to add 50 HD stations before the end of September.

Finally, for all you skeptical Cox customers, let me ask you some questions: When was the last time you had a channel ADDED to your lineup without paying extra? Also, remember that you used to get NBC 4, CBS 2, and Fox 5 at one time? Remember watching your Knicks games on MSG? Are you Mets fans still waiting for Cox to give you SNY? These were all the reasons that I left Cox and went to DirecTV. I get all the New York stations mentioned, all my local sports that I USED to get from Cox, along with other great sports packages that for an out of market fan such as myself are great.

It is time for Cox to get a wake up call. Don't let yourself be subjected to underwhelming programming at overwhelming prices. This is not meant to be a knock on cable. People in Wallingford who get Comcast cable still have all their New York stations, and get all those sports networks I mentioned. To see cable done right, check out the channel lineup available to them at the Comcast web site, and then ask yourself, "Is Cox my friend in the Digital Age?" I think not. Of course, we can't get Comcast cable here in Cheshire, so here Satellite is the way to go. You could argue that it may be more expensive, but if its worth it and you're willing to pay, what's the wrong in that? If you care at all about your television service, you owe it to yourself to look beyond just what Cox is throwing at you.

To be fair, Cox now has 36 HD stations.. TOTAL. Way to keep up with the competition.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
Peter Parker
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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teachsac
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
dfergie
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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