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Last reply Aug 21, 2004 · posted in Old YAHOOGROUPS - VOOM! Archives

[VOOM] Wega vs. the World

Yes, my Wega LCD is not perfect. I leave the lights on but low, and the
black level, as all the mags have pointed out, is just not there compared to
a CRT or maybe even a Plasma.
But it makes a great first HD set, and it's my first set bigger than a 32"
SD.
It lacks a RGB input for a computer but many higher end video cards have a
DVI output.
It was $2995 at Circuit City, and the Samsung was hundreds more. It was a
toss up between the Hitachi and the Wega, but the Hitachi was a little more
expensive.
I should have waited for the July models, with built-in OTA tuner.
I bet the price would be more expensive though.
Hitachi has a new LCD model that's even thinner using their new light engine
and I'd like to see that.
So the Wega is not perfect. It was just the best value at the time. And I
really like the picture overall. Sharpness is my thing and the Sony is
really sharp for a projection.
When direct LCD sets get larger and cheaper, they will give Plasma and DLP a
run for their money. Lots of Asian companies are gearing up for Direct LCD,
which will replace projection LCD. The price difference will blow out
Plasma, and these sets will be just as thin (probably thinner) than Plasma,
which has some technical problems that time will not heal.
Then TI will reduce the cost of DLP chips so the eventual contest will be
Direct LCD vs. 3 chip DLP. CR and Plasma will be gone, as will LCOS (too
expensive for the differerence).
Place your bets now on the future.

Stan in San Diego
stanathomesell@cox.net

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jawilljr

Aug 20, 2004

vurbano said:
Well that may be true, but I havent seen it in DLP yet. Sure have seen plenty of them Die in LCD technology though. No way Id risk it.

I have. I have seen it in both.

Jerry

Eric_C

Aug 20, 2004

I'm real happy with our Wega(60"), it has better PQ than the DLP Sammy, not sure about the new version, its impossible to tell at BB. But I've seen both and the LCD looks better to us.

Ours is very bright and can be watched in a fully lit room but thats just normal TV watching, movies we prefer it dark regardless of the TV.

I'm waiting for the true 1080 DLP unit to come out. The new DLP at the store looks really good, but it still doesn't have the res of the Sony.

As far as the Sony DVI, its useless on a computer, its not a standard DVI that I've found any video card or software will correctly display the resolution. The DLP however shows up perfectly.

Either way, the store screwed up and I only paid 2799 for my 60" Sony, and its going for 4K right now so I can get out of it for nothing when something new comes along if I time it right.

gonzalez6653

Aug 20, 2004

Its personal choice, but I have a Panny 60" LCD that has "GREAT" PQ, and all the bells & whistles. It was a toss up between the Wega 60 LCD & the Panasonic, the Panasonic was cheaper as it does not have a built in hd tuner & I didn't care nor need it... DLP does rainbow & more moving parts, more chances of problems... the VOOM HD
programming comes in GREAT, OTA is GREAT and the sound Quality over VOOM is superior to D* or Cable, both of which I also have... If you like your TV thats all that matters, some people, all they do is bitch... even about one dollar.

I love my LCD TV, would recomend to anyone, we tend to see more negative posts than positive because for some people this forum is like the evening news, all they want to see or post is bad news.... I would not have bought a HDTV at this time if it wasn't for VOOM as it offers enought HD programming to make it worth while to have a HDTV, otherwise I would have waited for prices to keep going down. I also have a perfectly good Pro Scan 52" CRT that is 10 years old and still has an OK picture, but night & day next to my Panny LCD, and when the bulb gets dull, just get a new one.. can't do that with Plasma at triple the price....

View on and let the disgrunteled keep bitching, hopefully they'll catch on and start enjoyng life....

Then again, thats only my opinion, I could be wrong....!!!!

berockin1

Aug 20, 2004

[VOOM] Re: Wega vs. the World

I dont see any rainbows on my new DLP.
I liked the Wega but thought it was not working properly returned it
to CC.
My wife hated it she said it was way too big, Sony needs to trim
that baby down. We went for the Sammy because it has a pc input as
well as HDMI for future use. And that same 50" screen is housed in a
sleeker cabinet. I was in BB tonight and the Wega on the floor was
awesome, mine was a dud I think. To each is own lets sit back enjoy
VOOM on whatever type TV we have.... cheers

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "smata671" <smata671@y...> wrote:
> Everyone facing a purchase between the CRT and plasma price levels
> looks at the LCD and DLP sets and makes his personal choice. I
went
> with Sony, but I can see why some would prefer the DLP sets. Both
> are excellent, we are talking about nuances in the excellent
range.
> The DLP clearly produced rainbows for me when I scanned from one
> corner to the other. I watch alot of soccer. Guess what? My
eyes
> scan from one end of the set to the other all game long. Probably
> would be the case for any other ball sport. Those rainbows would
> drive me NUTS. I currently don't have pixels and purchased the
set
> from Circuit City at a premium along with the warranty--at quite a
> premium, $600 I think--to protect against the pixel issue
bothering
> me within the next 4 years. After that, if I have a problem, I'll
> get one of those now reasonably priced LCD sets, because those are
> going to be BEAUTIFUL.
>
> Isn't this a VOOM newsgroup anyway?
>
>
>
>

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smata671

Aug 21, 2004

[VOOM] Re: Wega vs. the World

Neither the DLPs or LCD projection sets are likely to be set up
properly at the store, I found. When I was shopping for my set a
year and half ago when the GWIII came out, the GWIII, though, looked
much better in the store, because the GWIIIs were allegedly set up
better "out of the box." They also released the 42" first, which was
smaller and therefore had a sharper and brighter picture. When I
finally came across a properly set up DLP, I was stunned by the
sharpness of the picture and wondered whether I had made the right
choice. I did the rapid eye movement test from one corner to the
other and immediately spotted the "rainbows." Supposedly, some
people don't see them. Why? I cannot say, but they are there for
people who do, I can assure you and they are distracting. If you
don't see them, the DLP is certainly an excellent choice, as the
picture is without a doubt sharper and appears to be more accurate in
a technical sense. I think there is something to the LCD's colors,
though, they seem more pleasant than the DLPs to the eye. Both are
nearly identical in their excellence, otherwise it would be quite
clear which was superior and that is not the case. Now, those Sharp
LCDs, too expensive at the moment, are going to have us all ditching
the projection sets in 5 years or so. The plasmas are not impressive
at all, both the LCD and DLP sets seem to have a better picture when
viewed at their best angle.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "berockin1" <berockin1@y...> wrote:
> I dont see any rainbows on my new DLP.
> I liked the Wega but thought it was not working properly returned
it
> to CC.
> My wife hated it she said it was way too big, Sony needs to trim
> that baby down. We went for the Sammy because it has a pc input as
> well as HDMI for future use. And that same 50" screen is housed in
a
> sleeker cabinet. I was in BB tonight and the Wega on the floor was
> awesome, mine was a dud I think. To each is own lets sit back enjoy
> VOOM on whatever type TV we have.... cheers
>
>
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "smata671" <smata671@y...> wrote:
> > Everyone facing a purchase between the CRT and plasma price
levels
> > looks at the LCD and DLP sets and makes his personal choice. I
> went
> > with Sony, but I can see why some would prefer the DLP sets.
Both
> > are excellent, we are talking about nuances in the excellent
> range.
> > The DLP clearly produced rainbows for me when I scanned from one
> > corner to the other. I watch alot of soccer. Guess what? My
> eyes
> > scan from one end of the set to the other all game long.
Probably
> > would be the case for any other ball sport. Those rainbows would
> > drive me NUTS. I currently don't have pixels and purchased the
> set
> > from Circuit City at a premium along with the warranty--at quite
a
> > premium, $600 I think--to protect against the pixel issue
> bothering
> > me within the next 4 years. After that, if I have a problem,
I'll
> > get one of those now reasonably priced LCD sets, because those
are
> > going to be BEAUTIFUL.
> >
> > Isn't this a VOOM newsgroup anyway?
> >
> >
> >
> >

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osu1991

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Marvel Television’s VisionQuest

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osu1991

Oct 14, 2026

Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.

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Foxbat

Oct 28, 2026

Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd

since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.

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Foxbat

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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.

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osu1991

Today at 2:06 PM

annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

Foxbat

6 minutes ago

osu1991 said:
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 56 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

New Gemini Box

The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/

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Scott Greczkowski

Oct 23, 2026

I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

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Tom Speer

Oct 23, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.

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b4pjoe

Oct 23, 2026

Tom Speer said:
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.

I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.

robjlevin

Oct 24, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.

Redbullsnation

Today at 2:43 PM

I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

b4pjoe

56 minutes ago

Redbullsnation said:
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.

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Last reply Today at 2:29 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 11/04/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

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jamieh1

Oct 21, 2026

Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

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KyL416

Oct 21, 2026

jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.

Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

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KyL416

Oct 23, 2026

KyL416 said:
The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida

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doctor J

Yesterday at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	266	2	1449
SD mpeg4	144		194
SD mpeg2	433	-1
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	56	18

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Yesterday at 7:23 AM

Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261104.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Yesterday at 7:24 AM

Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago

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KyL416

Today at 2:08 PM

KyL416 said:
WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server

Redbullsnation

Today at 2:29 PM

KyL416 said:
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server

Could be for the Heat since they have the rights to that.

Its always a surprise to see DTV carry subchannels...

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Last reply Today at 12:16 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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Bruce

Today at 9:59 AM

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

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Bruce

Today at 11:22 AM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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man00

Today at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Today at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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Last reply Today at 11:54 AM · posted in TV Shows

Survivor 51

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teachsac

Oct 3, 2026

Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.

dfergie

Oct 8, 2026

First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)

dfergie

Oct 9, 2026

Still miss "On Fire" podcasts, found these...

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Oct 22, 2026

Loved the tribal

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Today at 11:54 AM

Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...

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