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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Hi,

I was hoping for an antenna recommendation to service my elderly parents home.

I picked up a couple Zenith DT900 digital converter boxes and set top rabbit ears only pick up 2 stations and none of the big 4 networks. If possible I would prefer to do an attic mount in the crawlspace of their single story ranch as they are opposed to an outside antenna. There are 3 different televisions that need a hookup to the antenna.

I'm reasonably geeky in that I've built my own Mythtv system and made a DB2 clone for my own use but I've never done an install with multiple ~100ft cable runs to separate televisions so I'm unclear on amp/preamp choices and it seems like I would also need something like a distribution amp to service 3 tvs.

I've attached tvfool data for the location. My intention is to take my homemade DB2 up into their crawlspace as a test run to see if I can get anything at all. Initially it seems like a CM4228 might be a good candidate as most of the stations are in the same general direction and there are 2 must have(Fox8/CBS10) VHF Hi stations.

I'd appreciate any experienced advice.
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For the most part, Dish_in_the_sky's advice is excellent. I live in Salem and receive the Cleveland stations using a CM 4228, a Winegard YA-1713 high band VHF antenna and a CM 7777 preamplifier. I'm about 55 miles from the Cleveland transmitters.

Based on the TV Fool information, I'd guess that your actual location is on relatively low ground (1 edge and 2 edge at 40 miles from the Cleveland transmitters and 2 edge at about 30 miles from WNEO), which means you'll need a large outdoor antenna setup mounted as high as possible. You might also want to consider an Antennas Direct 91XG for UHF reception. It has a much lower wind load than the 4228. If I were to do my setup over, I'd use the 91XG instead of the 4228. You will also need to use a high band VHF antenna like the YA-1713. The 7777 has inputs for both a VHF and UHF antenna. I do not recommend a combination UHF/VHF for your location. I realize that your parents do not like the idea of an outdoor antenna, but they may not have a choice if they truly want to receive WOIO and WJW via an antenna. WKYC, channel 3 will broadcast its digital signal on channel 2 until 2/17/09 and will then move to channel 17 on that date. You probably will not receive channel 3 with the YA-1713/4228 or YA-1713/91XG setups until 2009. If your parents don't want to wait until 2009 for channel 3, you can use an antenna like the Winegard HD-4053P instead of the YA-1713.

WOIO, channel 19, is broadcasting its digital signal on channel 10 at very low power, 3.5 kW ERP. They will stay on channel 10 after the analog shutoff with no increase in power. On 2/17/09 WJW, channel 8, will move its digital broadcast from channel 31 to channel 8. WTRF, Wheeling and WTOV, Steubenville will be moving their digital broadcasts to channels 7 and 9 respectively in 2009. WTRF's transmitter is about 60 miles from Canton and will not be at full power until after the analog shutoff. There are some FM stations in the Canton area; so you'll want to make sure that the FM trap switch of the 7777 is in.

You'll need a rotator if you're interested in receiving more than the Cleveland and Akron stations. You will probably be able to receive at least two of the Youngstown stations (WKBN and WFMJ). Youngstown's WYTV will probably be a problem due to its low power and low transmitter antenna height.

With multiple long coax runs, you will probably need a distribution amplifier with multiple outputs placed between the 7777's power supply and the TVs. You'll then run a separate coax from the distribution amplifier to each TV. Make sure you use high quality quad shield coax.
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Wow! Outstanding and thoroughly informative posts guys. I really appreciate the effort and time. I'll post back w/ results and such once I've completed the install.
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Glad to be of help... Let me know what I missed so I can do better next time.

I'm an RF engineer, no experience in receivers, but read up on OTA TV DXing. Any advice from those more knowledgeable is appreciated and I will use it to give better advice, as well as use it for my own project.

Incomplete or inaccurate advice can be expensive, maddening or discouraging.

Here's what I'm (slowly) working on...

I've been researching OTA VHF/UHF DXing in order to try to grab some Canadian stations from my location near Seattle, a challenging task at best. My wife might be able to get some Chinese-language programming that way, in addition to FTA satellite.

The biggest challenges are a shoestring budget and very limited time with three small children!

I'll be building a ~0.5 dB NF UHF preamp (can do Ch 7-up on VHF as well) with some Agilent PHEMT FETs. Since I don't have adequate tools available to properly simulate or test these devices out to 10 GHz, I'll simply duplicate a 100-500 MHz 20 dB reference design Agilent (Avago) has--they DID test (or at least simulate) it to 10 GHz! Even though they claim 500 MHz is the upper limit, from their data, it performs very well to 1 GHz, though I might have to filter out at >750 MHz to remove cell phone interference (I'll certainly find out!)

I plan to use a pair of equal delay transmission line transformers (6.25:1 Z ratio, 5:2 voltage, 25:4 impedance) for fairly close impedance matching the 300 ohm antenna Z of a double-bay Gray-Hoverman antenna (UHF only) to the 50 ohm preamp input impedance, running this preamp up at the antenna. Of course a 50 ohm 1:1 balun at the preamp will be required. The preamp's output will be run through another equal delay transmission line transformer to bring it up to ~75 ohms for launching into RG-6. The practical limit for receiving digital signals with this will be ~ -106 dBm (isotropic) for Channels 28-51 if I recall the antenna gailn plots correctly. The noise floor (except manmade/optical noise) will be 16 dB lower. At the gain peak of the antenna, I can probably reach -109 dBm isotropic. A second (switchable) preamp will be necessary to get 20 more dB of gain for the weakest signals.

Unfortunately, my location has some hills and trees :-( I can't do much about that, even with my antenna on the roof. A 1000 foot tower would help...but not on my land or budget!
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This install was delayed longer than expected but I finally completed the project w/ much better than expected results. As an outside roof mount was ruled out for aesthetic reasons and also the additional labor required to follow code by getting grounding from an antenna mast/grounding rod over to the house's electric service grounding I decided to cross my fingers and do an attic mount.

This single story ranch house has a trussed roof w/ plywood, felt and standard asphalt shingles. I mounted an Antenna's Direct 91XG UHF and separate Winegard YA-1713 Hi-Band VHF to a 5' antenna mast section. The mast is mounted w/ two 4" wall-mount brackets attached to two 2x4 boards attached to the truss cross members.

I also went w/ the Channel Master 7777 preamp which is then fed into a Channel Master 3044 4-way distribution amp, both mounted in the basement and patched into the house's pre-wired coax. I used Belden 7915A RG6 and Thomas & Betts SnapNSeal compression connectors for the 100+ foot run from the attic to the basement. Unfortunately the house's pre-wired coax was done w/ the world's cheapest RG59 but there wasn't much I could do about that.

The end result was about as perfect as I could hope for. The install gets a lock on all the Cleveland transmitters except WKYC NBC channel 3 which isn't too surprising given that a Hi-Band VHF antenna is being used. Once they switch to UHF 17 they should be received easily. The most marginal station was WOIO CBS 10, presently broadcasting w/ 3kW. The install receives this station w/ about 75-80% signal strength. Once they pump the power to 8.75kW in February reception should be even better.

It remains to be seen how well this setup will perform w/ a layer of snow on the roof but thus far things look great.

Thanks so much for the detailed posts above that put me on the right track.
Don_M
It remains to be seen how well this setup will perform w/ a layer of snow on the roof but thus far things look great.

Don't worry. We've had an attic antenna for eight years and had no reception problems with snow on the roof -- not even after the 42-inch blizzard we had five years ago. My impression is that, if anything, reception gets slightly better during and after snowfalls. We only had DTV for the second half of last winter, but reception patterns didn't seem to be any different versus analog during that limited period of time.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
meStevo
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
K
Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

Jon Stewart Popcorn GIF
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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Neutron
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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dfergie
This hits hard, R.I.P. ...
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
Bobby
Rest in peace. Long live Jean Luc Picard…
long_time_Dish
Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Both, and they just made it official with a multiyear deal that also includes TV Everywhere authentication for the DAZN app, and commercial distribution.

DIRECTV, the premier provider of digital television entertainment in the United States, and DAZN, the world's leading sports entertainment platform, today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement for local telecasts of Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, and San Antonio Spurs games for DIRECTV streaming, satellite, and U-verse customers in each team's respective NBA-designated home territories.

These DAZN telecasts will be available to DIRECTV customers who subscribe to the Choice or higher packages and to U-verse TV customers who subscribe to the U200 or higher package. Each of DAZN's team services provides live pregame, postgame, and in-game coverage for the respective team.

In the coming weeks, customers who receive access to these teams via DIRECTV will also be able to login to the DAZN platform at no additional cost using their DIRECTV login credentials.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each of the five NBA teams to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS' thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
-1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
coolman302003
Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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It's Easy - Boston
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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EarDemon
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
harshness
Because it's what I prefer.
I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.
HipKat
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style
"MysteryMan"
2026-10 Preview Update Builds: 26300.9818 and 26200.9818 (KB5127936) has been released. Moderate time needed for those choosing to perform a manual download/install/restart. Quality improvements only. No new operating system features.
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Actually it looks like there are a lot of features new or updated, although most are on a gradual rollout schedule.

M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Foxbat
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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R
I want it and I have to have it.

I can neuter the phoning home with adguard home so it won't be doing that in my castle but I prefer without Internet so that my TVs in the house don't turn into e-waste
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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